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 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 21:44
 Subject: Plate versus Tile
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Ziegelmeister (590)

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I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?
 Author: CamdenV08 View Messages Posted By CamdenV08
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 21:57
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Funny, I have never thought about that until now.
I makes as much sense as the English language lol.
 Author: CamdenV08 View Messages Posted By CamdenV08
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 22:07
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CamdenV08 (2)

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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

These are considered a plate but a 2x2 modified is considered a tile which is
odd.
 
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 22:15
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Ziegelmeister (590)

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In Catalog, CamdenV08 writes:

   These are considered a plate but a 2x2 modified is considered a tile which is
odd.

I haven't even gotten to those yet, I've got a 6 qt bin full of all that
that needs sorted by color and put in storage.

Ran across 2460 just now though that's considered a tile. At the moment
all four of these are in the same bin under Tile 2x2 so I may as well just keep
everything how it is.

 
Part No: 2460  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin
* 
2460 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}
 Author: ImperialFleet View Messages Posted By ImperialFleet
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 22:13
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

I consider it a tile if it has a groove and is 50% or more smooth.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 22:34
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  What gives?

BrickLink is inexorably hidebound.

That is the most succinct and most accurate answer you will receive.
 Author: chetzler View Messages Posted By chetzler
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 23:18
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Yeah, this has been discussed many times and in lots of cases there are good
reasons to go either way. I was discussing this with a good friend just last
week and even she and I had come to different conclusions on how we organize
our parts.

I think we can get some insight into what LEGO thinks is a tile, though. I suspect
that if a part has has a groove, they view it as a tile, figuring there aren’t
enough studs on the surface to get good clutch with the business-end of a brick
separator. The back end of the separator is well-designed to get under the grooved
edges when there are no studs to grab.

I’m sure someone will find some counterexamples to this theory.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Sep 21, 2024 23:33
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Yeah, this has been discussed many times and in lots of cases there are good
reasons to go either way. I was discussing this with a good friend just last
week and even she and I had come to different conclusions on how we organize
our parts.

I think we can get some insight into what LEGO thinks is a tile, though. I suspect
that if a part has has a groove, they view it as a tile, figuring there aren’t
enough studs on the surface to get good clutch with the business-end of a brick
separator. The back end of the separator is well-designed to get under the grooved
edges when there are no studs to grab.

I’m sure someone will find some counterexamples to this theory.


Pretty easily.

 
Part No: 54200  Name: Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* 
54200 Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 6192b  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 4 Double with Groove
* 
6192b Slope, Curved 2 x 4 Double with Groove
Parts: Slope, Curved
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Sep 22, 2024 03:50
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Ziegelmeister (590)

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In Catalog, randyf writes:

  
Pretty easily.

 
Part No: 54200  Name: Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
* 
54200 Slope 30 1 x 1 x 2/3
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 6192b  Name: Slope, Curved 2 x 4 Double with Groove
* 
6192b Slope, Curved 2 x 4 Double with Groove
Parts: Slope, Curved

You're not helping, LOL. I was genuinely curious if it had to do with the
groove, but that's ruled out with my examples. I'm trying to do a deep
dive in to all this and don't know if some of this based on rules or whimsy.
 Author: WhiteHorseMatt View Messages Posted By WhiteHorseMatt
 Posted: Sep 22, 2024 03:11
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In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Yeah, this has been discussed many times and in lots of cases there are good
reasons to go either way. I was discussing this with a good friend just last
week and even she and I had come to different conclusions on how we organize
our parts.

I think we can get some insight into what LEGO thinks is a tile, though. I suspect
that if a part has has a groove, they view it as a tile, figuring there aren’t
enough studs on the surface to get good clutch with the business-end of a brick
separator. The back end of the separator is well-designed to get under the grooved
edges when there are no studs to grab.

I’m sure someone will find some counterexamples to this theory.

I've also been curios about this.

What's the difference between a wedge and a plate? Why is a
 
Part No: 3045  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
* 
3045 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
Parts: Slope
a slope
, but a
 
Part No: 13548  Name: Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
* 
13548 Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
Parts: Wedge
a wedge?
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Sep 22, 2024 08:36
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In Catalog, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Catalog, chetzler writes:
  In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Yeah, this has been discussed many times and in lots of cases there are good
reasons to go either way. I was discussing this with a good friend just last
week and even she and I had come to different conclusions on how we organize
our parts.

I think we can get some insight into what LEGO thinks is a tile, though. I suspect
that if a part has has a groove, they view it as a tile, figuring there aren’t
enough studs on the surface to get good clutch with the business-end of a brick
separator. The back end of the separator is well-designed to get under the grooved
edges when there are no studs to grab.

I’m sure someone will find some counterexamples to this theory.

I've also been curios about this.

What's the difference between a wedge and a plate? Why is a
 
Part No: 3045  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
* 
3045 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double Convex Corner
Parts: Slope
a slope
, but a
 
Part No: 13548  Name: Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
* 
13548 Wedge 2 x 2 (Slope 45 Corner)
Parts: Wedge
a wedge?

I think it's because the latter has a half of partial anti stud underneath
like almost all other wedges and and wedge plates. Slopes don't have them.
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

Long time discussion:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228590
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1974 (747)

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Tiles are smaller

A 2x2 tile does not have the same dimensions as a 2x2 plate (sans studs)

Cheers,

Ole

In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?
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In Catalog, Ziegelmeister writes:
  I'm not arguing, I'm just genuinely curious as I work on inventory and
am moving parts to align with the actual Bricklink nomenclature.

So 3068 is a TILE, but 87580 is considered a PLATE (one stud mind
you), but 33909 is a TILE (two studs).

 
Part No: 3068  Name: Tile 2 x 2
* 
3068 Tile 2 x 2
Parts: Tile {Tan}
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Tan}
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified {Tan}

What gives?

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