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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 10:19
 Subject: Spam from zero feedback members
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yorbrick (1206)

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We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 10:48
 Subject: Re: Spam from zero feedback members
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

Which means that hundreds of posts have to go to moderators each day, any time
of the day or night.
Not possible.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 11:27
 Subject: Re: Spam from zero feedback members
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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

That would be much more work for the mods then the current of deleting a few
posts a day. I think the solution has to be higher up in the chain of events
if it’s possible such as somewhere when the user is signing up or such
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 12:29
 Subject: Re: Spam from zero feedback members
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yorbrick (1206)

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In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

That would be much more work for the mods then the current of deleting a few
posts a day. I think the solution has to be higher up in the chain of events
if it’s possible such as somewhere when the user is signing up or such

Why would it be much more work? It seems to me it would be less work. Count how
many threads have been started by 0 feedback users over the past week or month,
or whatever timeframe you want, then count the number of cancelled spam threads
in the same period. They already get notified every time spam is reported and
then have to manually cancel each spam thread. Whereas if they only have to manually
release non-spam threads, it is less work than manually cancelling every spam
thread. Plus users don't see any spam. And once they get the message that
spam is not being shown, hopefully it would reduce.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 12:32
 Subject: Re: Spam from zero feedback members
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Nubs_Select (4735)

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

That would be much more work for the mods then the current of deleting a few
posts a day. I think the solution has to be higher up in the chain of events
if it’s possible such as somewhere when the user is signing up or such

Why would it be much more work? It seems to me it would be less work. Count how
many threads have been started by 0 feedback users over the past week or month,
or whatever timeframe you want, then count the number of cancelled spam threads
in the same period. They already get notified every time spam is reported and
then have to manually cancel each spam thread. Whereas if they only have to manually
release non-spam threads, it is less work than manually cancelling every spam
thread.

Option 1: what they currently do, delete roughly 25 posts a day (usually less)
of spam. Option 2: moderate every single 0 feedback posted every single day forever.
Option 2 seems like lots more work

  Plus users don't see any spam. And once they get the message that
spam is not being shown, hopefully it would reduce.

You would hope but based on what’s happening i wouldn’t be surprised if someone
setup a script to do it and has since forgotten about it as im near 100% certain
they have not gotten a single sale from the bricklink posts ever
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 14:20
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yorbrick (1206)

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Option 1: what they currently do, delete roughly 25 posts a day (usually less)
of spam. Option 2: moderate every single 0 feedback posted every single day forever.
Option 2 seems like lots more work


Abd option 1 currently needs to be done about 25 times every single day, forever.
There is more spam than new users posting. Hence tailoring moderation to automate
stopping the biggest issue means less work.
 Author: kzinti View Messages Posted By kzinti
 Posted: Aug 4, 2024 00:02
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kzinti (4992)

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

Do not allow zero feedback users to post links, seems to remove the issue of
current spam posters.
 Author: HoosierNinja View Messages Posted By HoosierNinja
 Posted: Aug 4, 2024 10:14
 Subject: Re: Spam from zero feedback members
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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

Do not allow zero feedback users to post links, seems to remove the issue of
current spam posters.

YES! This would be a simple fix, but they refuse to do it.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Aug 4, 2024 10:30
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In General, crazylegoman writes:
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YES! This would be a simple fix, but they refuse to do it.

What is simple: Add a breathalizer on a 2024 automobile to prevent it from starting
when the driver is drunk.

What is BrickLink: Replace “2024 automobile” with “temperamental horse” in the
sentence above.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Aug 4, 2024 10:41
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In Suggestions, kzinti writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  We all know it is a problem, and many are reported each day. Of course it is
important that new / zero feedback users can post and get answers. So how about
posts from zero feedback members have to be approved before they show. Rather
than showing immediately they could go to moderators and they approve genuine
ones and they can cancel the spam without it needing to be reported.

Do not allow zero feedback users to post links, seems to remove the issue of
current spam posters.

What a simple and potentially efficacious idea

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1468720
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1465461

-popsicle