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 Author: bb-3077901 View Messages Posted By bb-3077901
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 10:17
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In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?
 Author: Tloftus View Messages Posted By Tloftus
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 11:13
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In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

As a buyer i would suggest if there is a tracking number you provided with the
order, i would enter that and see if it was delivered and if it was then mark
it completed. i mean us buyers check that tracking to see when it's going
to be delivered and such, just use it like we do see if it was delivered,
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 11:26
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1001bricks (55573)

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In Selling, Tloftus writes:
  In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

As a buyer i would suggest if there is a tracking number you provided with the
order, i would enter that and see if it was delivered and if it was then mark
it completed.

No no and no.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=41

Completed - Package received, contents verified, the order is completed.

Seller can't do this.
 Author: JerrysBrickyard View Messages Posted By JerrysBrickyard
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 15:15
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JerrysBrickyard (195)

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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Tloftus writes:
  In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

As a buyer i would suggest if there is a tracking number you provided with the
order, i would enter that and see if it was delivered and if it was then mark
it completed.

No no and no.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=41

Completed - Package received, contents verified, the order is completed.

Seller can't do this.

The link indicates "Seller sets this status" and also "Buyer sets
this status." Why does the seller even have the option to set this status
if it's something they can't do? BL should maybe remove that option...

I wrongly had assumed that the "Complete" status was not visible to the
other party (buyer or seller) since we both had the option to set the status.
I thought it was just for our individual record-keeping.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 15:29
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1001bricks (55573)

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In Selling, jgoossen851 writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Tloftus writes:
  In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

As a buyer i would suggest if there is a tracking number you provided with the
order, i would enter that and see if it was delivered and if it was then mark
it completed.

No no and no.
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=41

Completed - Package received, contents verified, the order is completed.

Seller can't do this.

The link indicates "Seller sets this status" and also "Buyer sets
this status." Why does the seller even have the option to set this status
if it's something they can't do? BL should maybe remove that option...

True, that should be clearly stated and developped accordingly, but you know,
little stones, big rocks... Maybe it's not very important as of right now?
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 18:02
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zorbanj (1018)

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In Selling, jgoossen851 writes:
  
Why does the seller even have the option to set this status
if it's something they can't do?


I've asked this many times in the forum when this subject comes up. Lots
of guesses but never a definitive answer.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 18:13
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1001bricks (55573)

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In Selling, zorbanj writes:
  In Selling, jgoossen851 writes:
  
Why does the seller even have the option to set this status
if it's something they can't do?

I've asked this many times in the forum when this subject comes up. Lots
of guesses but never a definitive answer.

Definitive answer.

Either the definition of Completed in Help is different and not updated.
Or the development of the site doesn't correspond the current definition.

What do you want more???
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Aug 3, 2024 18:17
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In Selling, zorbanj writes:
  In Selling, jgoossen851 writes:
  
Why does the seller even have the option to set this status
if it's something they can't do?


I've asked this many times in the forum when this subject comes up. Lots
of guesses but never a definitive answer.

the same reason that if you submit a catalogue change request for an item, then
try to submit a change for another item, but that second item already has a change
request pending, that it then overrides your initial request info . in short
its just bricklink being bricklink. based on the TOS is 100% clear a seller should
not be changing order statuses to complete but it likely won't be changed
any time soon as with most things
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 11:21
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1001bricks (55573)

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In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.

DO NOT change the order status yourself, DO NOT ask buyers to change the status!

This is totally optionnal and you can't do it for them.

Simply file the order on your side so you don't see it.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 18:12
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.


Your first remainder - first annoying message buyer received. You didn't
mean it but that's how it is. They paid and received the order otherwise
they would have reached you. Why would they need to do extra work? Is marking
order complete an essential purpose of life?

  DO NOT change the order status yourself, DO NOT ask buyers to change the status!


and why on Earth would you even worry about that? How does the status of orders
gonna serve you?

  This is totally optionnal and you can't do it for them.

Simply file the order on your side so you don't see it.

Follow 1001bricks' advice to the letter and you will soon sell 1001 bricks
to your buyers.
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
 Posted: Aug 2, 2024 11:33
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They'll get around to it at some point, but if they don't it's not
going to affect anything.

I vaguely recall a post from about two years ago where a buyer was mad that the
store marked the order as completed and I think this somehow limits the buyers
ability to file an NSS (?). I honestly can't remember the specifics of that
thread but it was enough to make me just file orders without any status change.

I'm sure one of the experts can correct me or add more info.

Here's some orders from May. 16 people marked their orders as Complete,
14 have not.
 
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  They'll get around to it at some point, but if they don't it's not
going to affect anything.

+1 every week (or several weeks) I have buyers mark orders from many months ago
as complete (sometimes just a few days shy of the 6-month purge) so they have
a reason for doing that. Plus as was mentioned. The seller cannot possibly “verify”
the order is complete after it arrives so there is no valid reason a seller should
be changing the order status
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

Never. You should never mark orders as complete as the seller. Buyer will when
they are ready and if they never do then it isn’t an issue. You should also not
be messaging them (which will be annoying at least some of them) to mark it as
complete. Once you mark an order as shipped the only thing you have to worry
about is leaving feedback (if you havnt at that point)
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peregrinator (1090)

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In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

Just file the order so you don't see it, don't worry about sending a
reminder or marking it complete, there's no valid reason for the seller ever
to do this.
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 Author: SirIceCream1001 View Messages Posted By SirIceCream1001
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In Selling, UTLF writes:
  I mark orders as "complete" when it's been over a month and there
hasn't been any contact

Feel free to burn me at the stake I guess

Looks like I’m low on
 
Part No: 85959pb01b  Name: Wave Rounded Straight Large with Bar End (Flame) with Marbled Trans-Yellow Pattern
* 
85959pb01b Wave Rounded Straight Large with Bar End (Flame) with Marbled Trans-Yellow Pattern
Parts: Energy Effect {Trans-Red}
So I’ll spare you
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In Selling, UTLF writes:
  I mark orders as "complete" when it's been over a month and there
hasn't been any contact

Feel free to burn me at the stake I guess

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=41
you must have some magic ability if you can "verify the contents" of
a "received" package you sent out "after" it arrives
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 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Selling, UTLF writes:
  
  you must have some magic ability if you can "verify the contents" of a "received" package you sent out "after" it arrives

I hand-deliver every order

and open it for the buyer too! now that's customer service!
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peregrinator (1090)

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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, UTLF writes:
  
  you must have some magic ability if you can "verify the contents" of a "received" package you sent out "after" it arrives

I hand-deliver every order

and open it for the buyer too! now that's customer service!

So I open every set for the buyer, put it together for them, and even store it
at my house for them. Now that is service!!
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, UTLF writes:
  
  you must have some magic ability if you can "verify the contents" of a "received" package you sent out "after" it arrives

I hand-deliver every order

and open it for the buyer too! now that's customer service!

So I open every set for the buyer, put it together for them, and even store it
at my house for them. Now that is service!!

amazing service!
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  […]
  So I open every set for the buyer, put it together for them, and even store it
at my house for them. Now that is service!!

amazing service!

I do the same and for FREE!!
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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  […]
  So I open every set for the buyer, put it together for them, and even store it
at my house for them. Now that is service!!

amazing service!

I do the same and for FREE!!

sign me up!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  […]
  So I open every set for the buyer, put it together for them, and even store it
at my house for them. Now that is service!!

amazing service!

I do the same and for FREE!!

Reported for avoidance of Taxes, BrickLink's and PayPal's fees!

Wow, we've got a record! I'm convinced your shop inventory will be empty
very soon.
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Turtle.Bricks (2439)

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I agree with UTLF

If a customer has not verified after a month their loss but I have pictures of
all parts shipped in case they do. No store (such as Amazon)would let you complain
after 30 days that part of an order is missing neither should Bricklink.

But once an order is marked completed a Seller can not request a refund of Bricklink
fees.



In Selling, UTLF writes:
  I mark orders as "complete" when it's been over a month and there
hasn't been any contact

Feel free to burn me at the stake I guess
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In Selling, zero42593 writes:
  I agree with UTLF

If a customer has not verified after a month their loss but I have pictures of
all parts shipped in case they do. No store (such as Amazon)would let you complain
after 30 days that part of an order is missing neither should Bricklink.

Actually Amazon allows complaints for missing packages for 90 days. But things
would be weird around here if we used Amazon's standards for customer service.
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I have had no problems in 20 years with Amazon's customer service.



In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, zero42593 writes:
  I agree with UTLF

If a customer has not verified after a month their loss but I have pictures of
all parts shipped in case they do. No store (such as Amazon)would let you complain
after 30 days that part of an order is missing neither should Bricklink.

Actually Amazon allows complaints for missing packages for 90 days. But things
would be weird around here if we used Amazon's standards for customer service.
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In Selling, zero42593 writes:
  I have had no problems in 20 years with Amazon's customer service.

I definitely wasn't suggesting anyone would have problems with Amazon's
customer service.
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In Selling, zero42593 writes:
  If a customer has not verified after a month their loss but I have pictures of
all parts shipped in case they do. No store (such as Amazon)would let you complain
after 30 days that part of an order is missing neither should Bricklink.

One can open a PayPal Claim or Visa charge back up to after 6 months.

And I don't know any Country that defines "30 days" as "a maximum
delay to complain".

Much more, and that's the main argument: completed means the buyer decides
it's completed - see Help.

Sellers with an OCD - File your order and don't watch its status.

Much more, playing with a status nobody asked you to, you also risk the Negative
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Aug 5, 2024 00:25
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Nubs_Select (4756)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Store: Nub's Select
In Selling, zero42593 writes:
  I agree with UTLF


So you also show up at the buyers house after their order arrives and open and
verify the package for them? That’s the only option if you’re complying with
bricklink rules. So many magicians on bricklink! (Must cost a lot on gas! )
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GoodNiteGrandma (6021)

Location:  USA, Utah
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Store: Premium Figurines
In Selling, LambertBricks writes:
  In the past, buyers haven’t marked the orders as completed, I sent them reminders
but they still never did it.
What am I supposed to do when this happens? How long am I supposed to wait until
I mark their order as completed?

I just dont worry about it. Makes it easier on both ends.