that has an issue and all the other scabbards (that I had on hand) work perfectly
fine for both versions. for additional reference, the
*
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
swords blade
has a thickness of .125 cm at the end and .135 cm at the center meanwhile
*
21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
starts at .135 at the end and is about .145 at the center (both versions are
about .15 by the time the blade reaches the hilt so perhaps a note could help
Yes, there should definitely be a note for both parts letting people know that
they're not compatible. That seems really odd that TLC would make those
parts "out of system" with each other.
that has an issue and all the other scabbards (that I had on hand) work perfectly
fine for both versions. for additional reference, the
*
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
swords blade
has a thickness of .125 cm at the end and .135 cm at the center meanwhile
*
21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
starts at .135 at the end and is about .145 at the center (both versions are
about .15 by the time the blade reaches the hilt so perhaps a note could help
The conclusion that I came away with was that although the swords
*
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
and
*
21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
have different clutch strengths in that specific scabbard (21459 always having
greater clutch), the issue is only troublesome sometimes.
And I think the reason is that the tolerances of the parts sometimes line up
favorably and other times they don't. In other words, it depends on the width
of the gap in a given scabbard and the thickness of a given sword.
Basically...
Thinner 30173b and smaller gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thinner 30173b and larger gap in scabbard = Minimal clutch to where the sword
almost falls out
Thicker 30173b and smaller gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thicker 30173b and larger gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thinner 21459 and smaller gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but passable
Thinner 21459 and larger gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but good
Thicker 21459 and smaller gap in scabbard = Super clutch where it is very hard
to get the sword in and out
Thicker 21459 and larger gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but passable
So, an unwanted situation really comes up at the extremes in both directions,
and I do think a note is warranted about both of those extreme cases (sword 30173b
almost falls out sometimes and sword 21459 is *very* hard to get in and out sometimes).
that has an issue and all the other scabbards (that I had on hand) work perfectly
fine for both versions. for additional reference, the
*
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
swords blade
has a thickness of .125 cm at the end and .135 cm at the center meanwhile
*
21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade Parts: Minifigure, Weapon {Black}
starts at .135 at the end and is about .145 at the center (both versions are
about .15 by the time the blade reaches the hilt so perhaps a note could help
The conclusion that I came away with was that although the swords
*
30173b Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Uncapped Pommel and Hole in Hilt Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
and
*
21459 Minifigure, Weapon Sword, Shamshir / Katana (Square Guard) with Capped Pommel and Holes in Crossguard and Blade Parts: Minifigure, Weapon
have different clutch strengths in that specific scabbard (21459 always having
greater clutch), the issue is only troublesome sometimes.
And I think the reason is that the tolerances of the parts sometimes line up
favorably and other times they don't. In other words, it depends on the width
of the gap in a given scabbard and the thickness of a given sword.
Basically...
Thinner 30173b and smaller gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thinner 30173b and larger gap in scabbard = Minimal clutch to where the sword
almost falls out
Thicker 30173b and smaller gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thicker 30173b and larger gap in scabbard = Good clutch
Thinner 21459 and smaller gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but passable
Thinner 21459 and larger gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but good
Thicker 21459 and smaller gap in scabbard = Super clutch where it is very hard
to get the sword in and out
Thicker 21459 and larger gap in scabbard = Increased clutch compared to 30173b,
but passable
So, an unwanted situation really comes up at the extremes in both directions,
and I do think a note is warranted about both of those extreme cases (sword 30173b
almost falls out sometimes and sword 21459 is *very* hard to get in and out sometimes).
Cheers,
Randy
Thankyou for the additional testing! Very interesting indeed!
Canada, Ontario
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