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 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.
 


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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

For a lot of these reasons, I have contacted the seller and they have replied
that it was a mistake and corrected it. I don't think all of them are actually
mistakes, but people fix them. Now and then someone gets mad. But contacting
the seller instead of hitting the report button can prevent a fixable listing
from being obliterated and will prevent a forum post asking why their listing
was deleted.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Administrative, axaday writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

For a lot of these reasons, I have contacted the seller and they have replied
that it was a mistake and corrected it. I don't think all of them are actually
mistakes, but people fix them. Now and then someone gets mad. But contacting
the seller instead of hitting the report button can prevent a fixable listing
from being obliterated and will prevent a forum post asking why their listing
was deleted.

Good advice, although I did report one listing that said on it “fake Lego” so
no message was needed.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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In Administrative, axaday writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

For a lot of these reasons, I have contacted the seller and they have replied
that it was a mistake and corrected it. I don't think all of them are actually
mistakes, but people fix them. Now and then someone gets mad. But contacting
the seller instead of hitting the report button can prevent a fixable listing
from being obliterated and will prevent a forum post asking why their listing
was deleted.

For this reason we would like to overhaul our reporting system to first give
a chance to the seller to accept a correction instead of a deletion. However,
some things are just going to need to be deleted outright - when there is nothing
that can be adjusted to make the listing ok.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, axaday writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

For a lot of these reasons, I have contacted the seller and they have replied
that it was a mistake and corrected it. I don't think all of them are actually
mistakes, but people fix them. Now and then someone gets mad. But contacting
the seller instead of hitting the report button can prevent a fixable listing
from being obliterated and will prevent a forum post asking why their listing
was deleted.

For this reason we would like to overhaul our reporting system to first give
a chance to the seller to accept a correction instead of a deletion. However,
some things are just going to need to be deleted outright - when there is nothing
that can be adjusted to make the listing ok.

Sound like a plan any progress on how to add sounds to the catalog tho?
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, axaday writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

For a lot of these reasons, I have contacted the seller and they have replied
that it was a mistake and corrected it. I don't think all of them are actually
mistakes, but people fix them. Now and then someone gets mad. But contacting
the seller instead of hitting the report button can prevent a fixable listing
from being obliterated and will prevent a forum post asking why their listing
was deleted.

For this reason we would like to overhaul our reporting system to first give
a chance to the seller to accept a correction instead of a deletion. However,
some things are just going to need to be deleted outright - when there is nothing
that can be adjusted to make the listing ok.

Good to hear.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1469106
 Author: dreambuilder71 View Messages Posted By dreambuilder71
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Hi Russell. Please check support email. I am guessing someone reported me cause
I wouldn't sell to them and I told them to check my terms page and they probably
didn't like that, lol. Please help me out. Thanks, James

In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

What a cool breakdown, thanks for sharing. I think I contributed like 2 of those.
lol

I did notice the report listing button when it apeared, much easier.



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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community.

Hoping BrickLink will continue to provide more 'generic' stats in the
future!
It's very important as it helps us all to get a better comprehension of the
whole.
Thank you!
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 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

All these stats show is that policing listings in a waste of time.

88% of removals were for petty reasons (the top 3).

1.) Doesn't always make sense. Who determines a complete minifigure?

The bricklink inventory.

  There is a lack of clear rules on what should constitute a complete minifigure
when it is added to the catalog.

The admins confirm all that based on the rules when it’s added to the catalogue

  I have seen discontinued minifigures that I can't list because some catalog
admin added them with unnecessary accessories.
As in the minifigure has almost 20 different pieces to it.

Here are some examples.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0960
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0824 (17 parts)
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0798
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0794

2.) Leaves much to be desired.

How is a new set without a box incomplete? Is the box needed to build the set?
What if you offer flat rate shipping and want offer customers lower prices? A
deboxed set can be shipped for a fraction of the cost.

Are instructions needed to build a set, when LEGO provides high quality PDFs
of every modern instruction online?

Same with used. You can have a 1,000 piece set missing one sticker and it is
incomplete according to current BL standards.

3.) Who really cares if people used the words "as new" or "like
new"?

How is this different than if people add a grading scale to their store and put
a grade as a comment for each item?

Personally, I see these comments all the time in stores, and I just do the common
sense thing and ignore them.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

  1.) Doesn't always make sense. Who determines a complete minifigure?

BrickLink's catalog, massively helped by our community.


  There is a lack of clear rules on what should constitute a complete minifigure

I'd naively say: it's Inventory?


  2.) Leaves much to be desired.
How is a new set without a box incomplete? Is the box needed to build the set?
What if you offer flat rate shipping and want offer customers lower prices? A
deboxed set can be shipped for a fraction of the cost.

Agreed, and I like sellers who do this - but you can (have to) sell it Incomplete.

IMO a Set differentiates of a bunch of items in that it's sold with its packaging
(box...) and main extra elements (instructions...) - and as it's known to
be distributed in the market.


  Are instructions needed to build a set, when LEGO provides high quality PDFs
of every modern instruction online?

See above, yes, as long as LEGO doesn't stop to ship printed instructions.


  3.) Who really cares if people used the words "as new" or "like
new"?

Buyers being tricked by inadequate qualification and/or vague or abusive descriptions
- especially for buyers not reading well English...

"New, only assembled for the picture" - I like this one
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In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

All these stats show is that policing listings in a waste of time.

88% of removals were for petty reasons (the top 3).

1.) Doesn't always make sense. Who determines a complete minifigure?

There is a lack of clear rules on what should constitute a complete minifigure
when it is added to the catalog.

The important thing for the price guide is that whatever bar is set for an entry,
that's what gets enforced, so that the Price Guide means something.

  I have seen discontinued minifigures that I can't list because some catalog
admin added them with unnecessary accessories.

Buy the missing parts or part out the incomplete minifigure. Or list the incomplete
minifigure in the custom item section. Lots of options other than quibbling with
the Catalog Admins.

  As in the minifigure has almost 20 different pieces to it.

Here are some examples.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0960
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0824 (17 parts)
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0798
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0794

2.) Leaves much to be desired.

How is a new set without a box incomplete? Is the box needed to build the set?
What if you offer flat rate shipping and want offer customers lower prices? A
deboxed set can be shipped for a fraction of the cost.

Are instructions needed to build a set, when LEGO provides high quality PDFs
of every modern instruction online?

Paper instructions have value, and so do the boxes. You can list a set as complete
sealed if you wish and offer deboxing to your customers. Besides, New Complete
is rather rare. Set listings are almost always New Sealed or Used Complete.

  Same with used. You can have a 1,000 piece set missing one sticker and it is
incomplete according to current BL standards.

Then list it as incomplete. You get to choose the price, so sell it for what
you think you can get.

  3.) Who really cares if people used the words "as new" or "like
new"?

Terms like New and Used and Complete and Incomplete have defined meanings on
BrickLink that go beyond the normal (expected) definition of the terms. That
is why we restrict the use of these terms to what they mean in the listing rules.
There is a lot of confusion in the marketplace between used and new as a concept
- it really is a big deal.

  How is this different than if people add a grading scale to their store and put
a grade as a comment for each item?

Because "New" and "Used" on BrickLink aren't used to grade
condition. "New" means not assembled or displayed, and "Used"
means you don't know for sure if it's new. You can have New parts with
damage and Used parts that look shiny and may never have touched another brick.

  Personally, I see these comments all the time in stores, and I just do the common
sense thing and ignore them.

You are seeing a lot less of them due to the efforts of your fellow BrickLink
members.
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.

All these stats show is that policing listings in a waste of time.

88% of removals were for petty reasons (the top 3).

1.) Doesn't always make sense. Who determines a complete minifigure?

There is a lack of clear rules on what should constitute a complete minifigure
when it is added to the catalog.

The important thing for the price guide is that whatever bar is set for an entry,
that's what gets enforced, so that the Price Guide means something.

  I have seen discontinued minifigures that I can't list because some catalog
admin added them with unnecessary accessories.

Buy the missing parts or part out the incomplete minifigure. Or list the incomplete
minifigure in the custom item section. Lots of options other than quibbling with
the Catalog Admins.

  As in the minifigure has almost 20 different pieces to it.

Here are some examples.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0960
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0824 (17 parts)
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0798
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=sw0794

2.) Leaves much to be desired.

How is a new set without a box incomplete? Is the box needed to build the set?
What if you offer flat rate shipping and want offer customers lower prices? A
deboxed set can be shipped for a fraction of the cost.

Are instructions needed to build a set, when LEGO provides high quality PDFs
of every modern instruction online?

Paper instructions have value, and so do the boxes. You can list a set as complete
sealed if you wish and offer deboxing to your customers. Besides, New Complete
is rather rare. Set listings are almost always New Sealed or Used Complete.

  Same with used. You can have a 1,000 piece set missing one sticker and it is
incomplete according to current BL standards.

Then list it as incomplete. You get to choose the price, so sell it for what
you think you can get.

  3.) Who really cares if people used the words "as new" or "like
new"?

Terms like New and Used and Complete and Incomplete have defined meanings on
BrickLink that go beyond the normal (expected) definition of the terms. That
is why we restrict the use of these terms to what they mean in the listing rules.
There is a lot of confusion in the marketplace between used and new as a concept
- it really is a big deal.

  How is this different than if people add a grading scale to their store and put
a grade as a comment for each item?

Because "New" and "Used" on BrickLink aren't used to grade
condition. "New" means not assembled or displayed, and "Used"
means you don't know for sure if it's new. You can have New parts with
damage and Used parts that look shiny and may never have touched another brick.

  Personally, I see these comments all the time in stores, and I just do the common
sense thing and ignore them.

You are seeing a lot less of them due to the efforts of your fellow BrickLink
members.

I don't want to start a debate, as we are going to disagree.

I think the current system leaves a lot to be desired, but I do follow it.
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  How is this different than if people add a grading scale to their store and put
a grade as a comment for each item?

Because "New" and "Used" on BrickLink aren't used to grade
condition. "New" means not assembled or displayed, and "Used"
means you don't know for sure if it's new. You can have New parts with
damage and Used parts that look shiny and may never have touched another brick.

Only for some items. The rules as written still allow new minifigures to be assembled
by the seller. And the seller doesn't have to point it out before selling.

It is good to see reports get acted on although as mentioned earlier in the thread,
the ability to correct an incorrectly listed item would be good. Although that
should probably come with education too. If a seller continues to incorrectly
list items in the future as they know they get an opportunity to correct it,
then stronger action would be needed.
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.


Nice stats, thanks for sharing!

Indeed being able to correct the listing would be nice, maybe for now you can
notify the report to the seller too so it has time to correct it until an admin
revises the report.

Also I suggested in the pass adding the Item ID to the report email.


And seems only about 0.05% of items gets reported.

https://www.bricklink.com/calendar.asp

  
Because "New" and "Used" on BrickLink aren't used to grade
condition. "New" means not assembled or displayed, and "Used"
means you don't know for sure if it's new. You can have New parts with
damage and Used parts that look shiny and may never have touched another brick.


*Clicked another brick? I'm pretty sure after molding them they are all touching
together
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Administrative, Stellar writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, BrickDeals writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  We recently had reason to pull some stats and it seemed they may be of interest
to our seller community. These are listing reports from the last 30 days.

This month, 94% of all removal requests were accepted. 6% were denied.

Thanks to all our community members who police listings. We noticed a big uptick
when a report button was added to the storefront.


Nice stats, thanks for sharing!

Indeed being able to correct the listing would be nice, maybe for now you can
notify the report to the seller too so it has time to correct it until an admin
revises the report.

Also I suggested in the pass adding the Item ID to the report email.

And seems only about 0.05% of items gets reported.

That's too few! This is why I systematically report all the lots of my competitors!

Yeah, I'm too smart, I know.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 29, 2024 10:10
 Subject: Re: Some stats for you
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In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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That's too few! This is why I systematically report all the lots of my competitors!

Good idea! I just went in a random store and reported their 9,070 lots!


  Yeah, I'm too smart, I know.

So smart, you went the other side of smart