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 Author: Eruluvatar View Messages Posted By Eruluvatar
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 03:56
 Subject: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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 Topic: Buying
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Eruluvatar (46)

Location:  France, Île-de-France
Member Since Contact Type Status
Nov 1, 2022 Contact Member Buyer
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Hi,

I was going through BrickLink yesterday and came upon some very good deal - maybe
too good to be true. I know that some ID verification if being done before someone
can have selling privilege but I wanted to ask the community if "fraud store"
are a thing and if yes how to confront them? On one hand I don't want to
have to go through a claim process if I don't receive goods and on the other
hand I would be disappointed to miss an opportunity...

P.S: to be more detailed - I saw two store created the same day with pretty similar
set being sold at (very) low prices. Both seller made only one purchase on the
same day but to two different stores (I trust to get selling privilege) and then
left same feedback...

Thanks,
Thibaud
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 04:51
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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yorbrick (1184)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 11, 2011 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Yorbricks
In Buying, Eruluvatar writes:
  Hi,

I was going through BrickLink yesterday and came upon some very good deal - maybe
too good to be true. I know that some ID verification if being done before someone
can have selling privilege but I wanted to ask the community if "fraud store"
are a thing and if yes how to confront them? On one hand I don't want to
have to go through a claim process if I don't receive goods and on the other
hand I would be disappointed to miss an opportunity...

You have a choice:

Do not buy from them. No hassle to you, but you miss out if genuine.

Buy, but pay using a secure form of paypal with buyer protection. Maybe some
hassle to file a complaint later, you don't miss out if genuine. I had to
do this with a store that turned out to be a fraud recently. It wasn't that
hard. A few clicks at PayPal and filing a NSS here.

Buy and use a form of payment with no buyer protection. You get the deal if genuine,
you lose out if fraud.
 Author: thodie View Messages Posted By thodie
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 06:15
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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thodie (493)

Location:  Austria, Oberösterreich
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 21, 2015 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Traunsee Bricks
In Buying, Eruluvatar writes:
  Hi,

I was going through BrickLink yesterday and came upon some very good deal - maybe
too good to be true. I know that some ID verification if being done before someone
can have selling privilege but I wanted to ask the community if "fraud store"
are a thing and if yes how to confront them? On one hand I don't want to
have to go through a claim process if I don't receive goods and on the other
hand I would be disappointed to miss an opportunity...

P.S: to be more detailed - I saw two store created the same day with pretty similar
set being sold at (very) low prices. Both seller made only one purchase on the
same day but to two different stores (I trust to get selling privilege) and then
left same feedback...

Thanks,
Thibaud

I saw it too, and it smells like scam. I´m monitoring the accounts to see if
there is negative feedback or not.
Regards Gerhard
 Author: thodie View Messages Posted By thodie
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 06:18
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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thodie (493)

Location:  Austria, Oberösterreich
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 21, 2015 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Traunsee Bricks
In Buying, thodie writes:
  In Buying, Eruluvatar writes:
  Hi,

I was going through BrickLink yesterday and came upon some very good deal - maybe
too good to be true. I know that some ID verification if being done before someone
can have selling privilege but I wanted to ask the community if "fraud store"
are a thing and if yes how to confront them? On one hand I don't want to
have to go through a claim process if I don't receive goods and on the other
hand I would be disappointed to miss an opportunity...

P.S: to be more detailed - I saw two store created the same day with pretty similar
set being sold at (very) low prices. Both seller made only one purchase on the
same day but to two different stores (I trust to get selling privilege) and then
left same feedback...

Thanks,
Thibaud

I saw it too, and it smells like scam. I´m monitoring the accounts to see if
there is negative feedback or not.
Regards Gerhard

Another hint: Their Shop terms seems identical btw
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 08:06
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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peregrinator (774)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
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Jan 21, 2003 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Faber Family Bricks
In Buying, thodie writes:

  Another hint: Their Shop terms seems identical btw

Lots of sellers copy terms
 Author: thodie View Messages Posted By thodie
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 09:07
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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thodie (493)

Location:  Austria, Oberösterreich
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 21, 2015 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Traunsee Bricks
In Buying, peregrinator writes:
  In Buying, thodie writes:

  Another hint: Their Shop terms seems identical btw

Lots of sellers copy terms

I agree, both stores where created on the same day, both offer rare aka expensive
sets below market price, i see a lot of red flags.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 12:26
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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1001bricks (52338)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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Sep 6, 2005 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: 1001bricks
In Buying, thodie writes:
  In Buying, peregrinator writes:
  In Buying, thodie writes:

  Another hint: Their Shop terms seems identical btw

Lots of sellers copy terms

I agree, both stores where created on the same day, both offer rare aka expensive
sets below market price, i see a lot of red flags.

Agree with this.

OP, if the offer seems really abnormally low + those flags, simply report the
Shop, and the Administration may decide something, or not.

Here, fill the user name once, and use "Member suspected of fraud..."
Give main reasons in a short text.

https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
 Author: Eruluvatar View Messages Posted By Eruluvatar
 Posted: Feb 26, 2024 15:17
 Subject: Re: New store - how to detect potential fraud
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Eruluvatar (46)

Location:  France, Île-de-France
Member Since Contact Type Status
Nov 1, 2022 Contact Member Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
In Buying, 1001bricks writes:
  In Buying, thodie writes:
  In Buying, peregrinator writes:
  In Buying, thodie writes:

  Another hint: Their Shop terms seems identical btw

Lots of sellers copy terms

I agree, both stores where created on the same day, both offer rare aka expensive
sets below market price, i see a lot of red flags.

Agree with this.

OP, if the offer seems really abnormally low + those flags, simply report the
Shop, and the Administration may decide something, or not.

Here, fill the user name once, and use "Member suspected of fraud..."
Give main reasons in a short text.

https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp



Thank you all for the answers. I got an answer from admin' that confirm this
seller is running a scam. But I'm quote surprise that the store is still
live. BrickLink should take immediate action...