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 Author: minifig_75 View Messages Posted By minifig_75
 Posted: Feb 25, 2024 11:40
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Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??

Thanks!
Soon
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 Author: minifig_75 View Messages Posted By minifig_75
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  Where these with solid studs?

Then it's a merge consequence.....

Nope, 3062B, so.. yeah, I would have liked to know about it through a very well
known and used means, the email...
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
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no chance, they are NOT messaging individual sellers about this.
stupid merge indeed
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  no chance, they are NOT messaging individual sellers about this.
stupid merge indeed

3062b wasn’t merged.  It was renamed (removing the ‘open stud’) and re-IDed to
3062.  3062a still exists:

 
Part No: 3062  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1
* 
3062 Brick, Round 1 x 1
Parts: Brick, Round
 
Part No: 3062a  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
* 
3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
Parts: Brick, Round
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Feb 25, 2024 12:35
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If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?

If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?

If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?

Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?

What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.
 Author: minifig_75 View Messages Posted By minifig_75
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In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
  In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?

If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?

Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?

What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.

Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.
I have already specified once or twice on other messages I DON'T HAVE TIME
TO SPEND writing useless posts.. unfortunately, I have many things to do at home,
so I try to save time , and I can't waste my time posting ..
So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.

I am pretty sure you, too, don't have time to waste posting messages like
this, so may be you should try to think before posting, next time, don't
you think so?
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
  In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?

If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?

Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?

What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.

Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.
I have already specified once or twice on other messages I DON'T HAVE TIME
TO SPEND writing useless posts.. unfortunately, I have many things to do at home,
so I try to save time , and I can't waste my time posting ..
So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.

I am pretty sure you, too, don't have time to waste posting messages like
this

hmm I wouldn't be so sure about that, in fact if you see any kind of absence
of his posts for any given number of days I'd be phoning the emergency services
to check he's okay!

https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?overTP=Y&q=&qS=Y&qM=Y&msgID=&uName=SYLVAINls&ID=&status=&v=c&max=50
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  […]
Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?

All the explanations are in my previous posts but maybe you didn’t have time
to read them thoroughly, so here’s an executive summary:

— That part only had its name and ID changed, there was no merge.
— Name and/or ID changes happen every week, they never created problems with
stores’ inventories.  Certainly not changing colours AND prices.
— You’re the only one having a problem with this part¹.
— Memory isn’t a sufficient proof².


¹ In your first post, you asked if someone else had errors: no one has.  The
only people who went your way are StarBrick and Randyf.  In two very different
manners:
— StarBrick blamed a merge that didn’t happen.  Nothing happened with their inventory.
— Randyf moaned the lack of changelogs on BL.  Nothing happened with their inventory.

² See below.


  To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied. […]

I didn’t say you lied, I said you haven’t enough reasons to blame BL.

Regarding this kind of problems, the only fault BL has is that there’s no changelogs
and you need to keep them yourself if you want traces.
But then, if your first and only reaction is to blame BL, BL-generated changelogs
won’t be proof to you.  So, as 1001bricks said, external proofs are a necessity.

And that’s all Sylvain and I are saying: ²you need proofs.  If inventory changes
happen and hamper your business, you take the time to make changelogs by downloading
your inventory regularly and noting the changes you make.  Then, you’ll be able
to back your memory with data and you’ll be able to blame BL.  Otherwise, as
there’s no changelogs on BL, there’s nothing to work on, there’s nothing to investigate.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
  In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  If the seller didn't change the ID, what/who did?

If the seller didn't change the prices, what/who did?

Do you have proofs the seller didn’t do that?
Do you have proofs the next possibility, BL, did that?

What Sylvain/1001bricks said earlier is exactly that:
— when someone blames BL, they don’t have proofs,
— those who have backups and traces always find it’s their fault / can never
pin it on BL.

Hello Sylvain and thanks for your so very useful message, as usual...!
I don't get why you wrote this, please explain ?
To me, it feels to me you're just saying I lied.

No: there probably are reasons for those lots, including you making a typo or
an error at one moment. But of course, nobody can't remember having made
this kind of mistake (otherwise you'd have corrected it).


  So, you can very easily imagine I am not the kind of people to waste his time
posting if it's useless. AND NO, I didn't do this..
I noticed it randomly while working on my inventory.

Chances are 99.99999% either normal BrickLink behaviour (instant check out, OCR,
OIR...) or your errors.

Take some time to set up adequate procedures to verify, if not, it simply didn't
happen.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!

  It's SO UNBELIEVABLE

... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem.

So until then, it's probably not a BrickLink problem.


Or you have some versions associated with an impossible color (like old
part with a new color), hence the color change.

That's one of the versions problems; many lots for sale are just either lies,
mistakes or typos
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"... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."

Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?

That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.

....

If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  "... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."

Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?

That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.

....

If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....

That’s not what Sylvain said.

He said that if you don’t have proofs it’s BL, then your complaints are moot.

It’s like realizing one aisle of your grocery store is totally empty and blaming
it on magical gremlins coming to eat things at night.
Come to think of it, it’s how the theory of spontaneous generation came about. 
Look it out and how it was debunked.  Spoiler: it’s about proofs and science,
not magic.
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In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
  That’s not what Sylvain said.
He said that if you don’t have proofs it’s BL, then your complaints are moot.

Absolutely, thank you.


  It’s like realizing one aisle of your grocery store is totally empty and blaming
it on magical gremlins coming to eat things at night.
Come to think of it, it’s how the theory of spontaneous generation came about. 
Look it out and how it was debunked.  Spoiler: it’s about proofs and science,
not magic.

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  If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....

No - it just means the contrary.

I almost had never any stock problem.

The ones In thought happened was almost always an error or a normal behaviour
in the end.
Apart a few times in a few years.

So, that means if you're not able to SAVE and CHECK with inventories what
you did, then you can't say "It's BL!!!!"
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I know MOST errors people report are their own fault due to changes they make.
(made some myself over the years for sure )

I know only a VERY FEW errors people report are not their own fault and DO happen....

I know that downloading an inventory CAN be helpful to find errors made by people.

Because of the merge in operation (and that will take some months I understand!)
we are forced to increase the monitoring of the inventory to CHECK nothing strange
DOES happen to the parts in store.

That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis,
sellers are 'forced' to do these downloads and checks on a daily basis?
We are not paid to do these checks, every day. I think we pay the fees in order
NOT to be forced to do these checks on a daily basis.....
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
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And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis, […]

Once again, this part was not merged:
 
Part No: 3062  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1
* 
3062 Brick, Round 1 x 1
Parts: Brick, Round
 
Part No: 3062a  Name: Brick, Round  1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
* 
3062a Brick, Round 1 x 1 - Solid Stud, Bottom Lip
Parts: Brick, Round
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.

Read about Science and Magic?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1456568

"I'm sure there's a problem, but I've no proof of anything"
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In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.

Read about Science and Magic?
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1456568

"I'm sure there's a problem, but I've no proof of anything"


It's goblins! CAUTION: Do not feed after midnight!

👺☠

Cheers ...

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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  I know MOST errors people report are their own fault due to changes they make.
(made some myself over the years for sure )

I know only a VERY FEW errors people report are not their own fault and DO happen....

I know that downloading an inventory CAN be helpful to find errors made by people.

Because of the merge in operation (and that will take some months I understand!)
we are forced to increase the monitoring of the inventory to CHECK nothing strange
DOES happen to the parts in store.

That's what both of you (SylvainLS and 1001bricks) suggest to do IN ORDER
to be able to PROOF it's not the users' error. That's the ridiculous
part of the response both of you add to the discussion.
And because the merging will be a process that's happening on a daily basis,
sellers are 'forced' to do these downloads and checks on a daily basis?
We are not paid to do these checks, every day. I think we pay the fees in order
NOT to be forced to do these checks on a daily basis.....

Thanks again!!
wow, for once, there's someone who seems to fully understand the issues at
stake!
thanks a lot again, I appreciate it
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In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  "... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."

Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?

That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.

....

If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....

Hello Starbrick and THANKS for your very useful reply!
I was as astonished when I read that a seller should spend his time checking
inventories EVERYDAY...! (honestly, I can't..! lool!)
I wish you a very nice day
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  In Inventories, StarBrick writes:
  "... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and
use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem."

Seriously?
Do you really say that this is what's required to maintain a correct inventory
on BL these days?

That's the equivalent of checking every aisle in a grocery store after closing
time.
Every day.
Again.
All day's.

....

If this is true, the database and the way it handles orders and other changes
is even more gone astray than I could imagine....

Hello Starbrick and THANKS for your very useful reply!
I was as astonished when I read that a seller should spend his time checking
inventories EVERYDAY...! (honestly, I can't..! lool!)

Absolutely not: I said DOWNLOAD everyday.
Leave the Tab opened, it's ONE click per day.
Or say week?
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In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!

  It's SO UNBELIEVABLE

... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem.

So until then, it's probably not a BrickLink problem.


The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.


  Or you have some versions associated with an impossible color (like old
part with a new color), hence the color change.

That's one of the versions problems; many lots for sale are just either lies,
mistakes or typos
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  
The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.


Thank you
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.

The fact you rely on your memory to affirm BrickLink made an error is definitely
an human bias.
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In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.

The fact you rely on your memory to affirm BrickLink made an error is definitely
an human bias.


I said nothing about what people think or do.

Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc., instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.

I did hear there were some seller tools coming, though...
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.

How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)

And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?


  instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.

If your bank seem to make an error, you don't ask your bank an auto checkup.

FIRST you take a freaking pen, paper, calculator and you check by yourself, on
some duration so you've have enough data to be sure.

Yes, external tools, no other proper way.
And it requires some work.

Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"
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In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.

How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)

And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?


And how can you be sure that the third-party verification tool is exact if it
is based on the exact same data that is stored on BrickLink everyday? Your bias
is showing.


  
  instead of needing third-party
tools. Simply stated, third party tools should not be a requirement for proper
inventory management and proper checks and balances in the BrickLink software.

If your bank seem to make an error, you don't ask your bank an auto checkup.


Sure, I do. I just did it the other day.


  FIRST you take a freaking pen, paper, calculator and you check by yourself, on
some duration so you've have enough data to be sure.


You think I keep all my financial records by pen and paper? What is this, the
1980s?


  Yes, external tools, no other proper way.
And it requires some work.

Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  Sellers should be able to use BrickLink to verify possible errors in their inventories
or keep a daily backup of their inventories, etc.

How could BrickLink verify BrickLink inventory?
I mean, apart normal database rules and tools (atomicity, transactions, backups
with checksums...)

And how could you be sure that BL verification tool is exact, if you already
suspect BL has an Inventory management problem?

And how can you be sure that the third-party verification tool is exact if it
is based on the exact same data that is stored on BrickLink everyday? Your bias
is showing.

Because you've got 2 different data that should show the same state at a
given moment.

Like "This lot exists on BL today", but I can check on my files I never
had it in stock, I never uploaded it, and it's not a renamed or merged lot,
neither an order or item cancellation.

OK, forget it, I give up.

Just say it's a BrickLink problem - which is possible and FAR easier.

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  Same way sellers tell me "Keeping the old e-mails? Oh no, I delete them of
course"

Just for you I’ve started keeping purchase emails (tho not selling ones)
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, 1001bricks writes:
  In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!

  It's SO UNBELIEVABLE

... that sellers still don't download their Inventory XML everyday and use
BrickStore to compare or restore any problem.

So until then, it's probably not a BrickLink problem.


The fact that third-party tools are actually needed to operate a functioning
BrickLink store is definitely a BrickLink problem in my book.


  Or you have some versions associated with an impossible color (like old
part with a new color), hence the color change.

That's one of the versions problems; many lots for sale are just either lies,
mistakes or typos

Randyf, I totally agree with you!
Thanks for the useful post
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??

Thanks!
Soon

There hasn't been a major issue or there would be a mutiny here on the Forum.
I know it's frustrating to deal with errors in your inventory, but consider
the bigger picture. There are 4,800 Dark Brown 3062 for sale on the site, but
the only problem was with your shop? The number and name were updated on Feb
1. No items were merged.

Take a breath and check your info again. I do hope you find the issue!

~Jen
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In Inventories, jennnifer writes:
  In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  Hey there!
So..** I'm a seller **
I just noticed that all my DARK BROWN 3062 turned into BROWN, AND their prices
changed too, from inventories A & C!!!
It's SO UNBELIEVABLE, I didn't get any mail from the BL team saying there
was a major issue since the variant merge...
Please, has anyone noticed this issue?
are there any other bugs??

Thanks!
Soon

There hasn't been a major issue or there would be a mutiny here on the Forum.
I know it's frustrating to deal with errors in your inventory, but consider
the bigger picture. There are 4,800 Dark Brown 3062 for sale on the site, but
the only problem was with your shop? The number and name were updated on Feb
1. No items were merged.

Take a breath and check your info again. I do hope you find the issue!

~Jen

LOL
Hello!
as you can see, I do have other things to do than working on/for Bricklink/Lego,
so I can't waste my time answering everyone..
But thanks for the very useful tips as to taking deep breaths LOL!

ANOTHER ISSUE / PROBLEM I just noticed in my inventory (both B, A, C!!) : personal
remarks for new items disappeared (between the 24th of February and.. yesterday.)
So, NO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I DID WRONG ; PROOF ; These personal remarks are
STILL WRITTEN IN BRICKSTORE (in the bsx files I still have on my computer) !!


This is a message to help other sellers, who can't waste their time searching
uselessly for items...
I wish you a very nice day.
regards
Soon.
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In Inventories, minifig_75 writes:
  ANOTHER ISSUE / PROBLEM I just noticed in my inventory (both B, A, C!!) : personal
remarks for new items disappeared (between the 24th of February and.. yesterday.)
So, NO, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I DID WRONG ; PROOF ; These personal remarks are
STILL WRITTEN IN BRICKSTORE (in the bsx files I still have on my computer) !!

You mean Inventory stockrooms? How do you use your stockrooms? Are there the
same items in normal inventory? Do they have the Remarks? Do you have a donwloaded
(xml) file showing those exact lots having the Remarks, like a day before? Did
you upload something? What are the merge options especially about Remarks on
BrickLink?

It can be a complex problem/reason, you really have to get all information to
understand what happened. I don't believe BrickLink simply "decided"
to remove Remarks.