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 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 25, 2024 23:21
 Subject: Re: Merging piece varian is a BIG PROBLEM
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randyf (451)

Location:  USA, Ohio
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 16, 2009 Member Does Not Allow Contact Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
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In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  
  Now, this is a BIG PROBLEM.

I don't wish to look arrogant or such - but opinion of a 1 Order Member,
sincerely...


Well, having to post a reply to just say this looks arrogant.

There is actually good reason to call into question some of these member posts
for reasons I've outlined here:-

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1450285


If you have proof that there are duplicate accounts being used by the same person,
please report them. Otherwise, every member has the same right to express their
opinion as anyone else, especially given the fact that BrickLink just notified
the entire userbase yesterday of these impending changes and linked them all
directly to the main thread.

The Admins already have the necessary data on all members along with powers to
act on and enforce their own policy, I've simply alerted them with my suspicions!

As for every member having equal right to express their views, of course but
using just the one true account would be nice. Either way it doesn't mean
I or anyone else should take the guy who has been a member for a matter of months,
never sold anything, only placed a couple of orders all that seriously when it
comes to how best to optimize the catalog for buying and selling on Bricklink.
Optimizing the site for viewing/cataloging purposes come secondary to actually
buying and selling and many of those with barely any feedback are not using the
site to buy or sell


Although it is certainly true that newer members do not yet have the knowledge
that older members do, belittling the large number of them that make up the site's
userbase is not something that I prescribe to. Rather, I tend to want to educate
others about this hobby that I love so that they may carry on the passion to
the next generation of LEGO enthusiasts. I really couldn't care less how
much someone buys or sells here. The fact that they are here at all is enough
for me to know that they care about this hobby.

As I have stated repeatedly, I am not against most of these changes, but I am
against certain changes that are removing valuable information from the same
catalog that leads to myself and others gaining new knowledge about the hobby
on a constant basis. Yes, the site is a marketplace first, but there is no reason
that it cannot have the best catalog possible with as much granularity that the
catalog volunteers are willing to contribute.

And in that regard, there is a solution that would make everyone happy with no
need to ever have these discussions ever again. It's just that BrickLink
doesn't want to do it. For some reason, there is a sudden rush to do all
of this right now, and none of us know that reason.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jan 26, 2024 02:13
 Subject: Re: Merging piece varian is a BIG PROBLEM
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
  
The Admins already have the necessary data on all members along with powers to
act on and enforce their own policy, I've simply alerted them with my suspicions!

As for every member having equal right to express their views, of course but
using just the one true account would be nice. Either way it doesn't mean
I or anyone else should take the guy who has been a member for a matter of months,
never sold anything, only placed a couple of orders all that seriously when it
comes to how best to optimize the catalog for buying and selling on Bricklink.
Optimizing the site for viewing/cataloging purposes come secondary to actually
buying and selling and many of those with barely any feedback are not using the
site to buy or sell


Although it is certainly true that newer members do not yet have the knowledge
that older members do, belittling the large number of them that make up the site's
userbase is not something that I prescribe to.

It has nothing to do with belittling anybody its just a simple factual thing
where showing you have some buying/selling experience on this site are key to
being able to properly weigh up and come to a well-informed opinion on the proposals
in question and so if members are going to push so hard against these proposals
they ought to at least show us that they use the site for more than just browsing.
They also ought to show us that they have held an active account for at least
more than just a couple of months?
Yet if many of these ‘So Called’ new members are as knowledgeable as they appear
and want to be taken seriously then it might be better to comment using their
main account?


  As I have stated repeatedly, I am not against most of these changes, but I am
against certain changes that are removing valuable information from the same
catalog that leads to myself and others gaining new knowledge about the hobby
on a constant basis. Yes, the site is a marketplace first, but there is no reason
that it cannot have the best catalog possible with as much granularity that the
catalog volunteers are willing to contribute.

And in that regard, there is a solution that would make everyone happy with no
need to ever have these discussions ever again. It's just that BrickLink
doesn't want to do it. For some reason, there is a sudden rush to do all
of this right now, and none of us know that reason.


The reason as far as I can see it is quite simple in that they want to progress
forward with a more functional site and personally I’d rather they focus their
attentions on these things rather than spending vast amounts of time and energy
restructuring the whole site in order to cater for what are the very least important
variants, Variants that most people really don’t care about outside of this forum
which may be hard for some to accept, but true!

That’s not to say that they shouldn't/couldn’t of at least considered implementing
these variants at a later date if/when the system allowed it but it shouldn’t
be done at the expense of slowing down the overall progress of the site either(How
long do we wait for the site to be re-structured?). People are very critical
at the lack of progress since the acquisition of Lego and then when some focused
and in my view positive planned changes are rolled out everyone starts putting
the breaks on!