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| | | Author: | infinibrix  | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2024 04:24 | | Subject: | Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 331 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I hope the admins are taking note only there are people here like myself that
have always followed the rules despite wanting and being denied a second account
for legitimate reasons (separate business from personal) and yet there are clearly
members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion
in the forum?
How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
Yes perhaps one or two of these never buy or sell and only use Bricklink as a
database reference in which case are they the best voices to be listening to
anyway given they don’t actually contribute to the core element of the site which
is to buy and sell Lego!
But let’s be honest having an opinion is one thing but using a second account
to voice that same opinion again is unhelpful spamming and so I hope admins will
investigate and merge these accounts!
Ultimately as far as peoples opinions go in general I understand the arguments
on both sides and to a degree sympathies but generally a lot of these arguments
seem to be along the lines that the merge is a bad idea because people will no
longer be able to easily distinguish the correct variant? Yet this appears to
be the exact intention, since Bricklink has already openly stated that they do
not particularly want members of its community (New or Old) being overly bogged
down and concerned with these variants. They essentially want them dismissed/forgotten
about! (Pretty much their own words)
With this in mind it really isn’t in Bricklinks best interest to put in place
any specific solution that only further prevents them breaking away from what
they are trying to break away from? Therefore in the end it can only be for individual
members who care about this stuff to either use the comments field or ask the
question!
The way I see it, this change is probably going to hinder maybe 1% of the community
whilst making things smoother and more efficient for 99% of the community. It’s
a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
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| | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2024 07:39 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
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I wouldn't attribute it to dup accounts, that's kinda silly. More-so,
when Slugger and Duckbricks made their videos, that brought the attention of
a lot of people.
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2024 09:53 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WOLKsite writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
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I wouldn't attribute it to dup accounts, that's kinda silly. More-so,
when Slugger and Duckbricks made their videos, that brought the attention of
a lot of people.
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No what is silly is where we have people with barely any feedback/transaction
history jumping up and down about the changes when they don't actually even
use the site for its primary intended purpose? Even the very few occasions when
you yourself have actually placed an order here, sellers appear to of had some
issues?
Using Bricklink as a resource alone is fine yet many of those same users also
expect their voices to be heard as though they somehow know what's best for
Bricklink and its wider user base?
That said, you don't think its a bit strange that we have all these new users
that have so much passion and complex understanding of variants but apparently
not quite enough passion to actually buy those variants that they claim to be
so passionate about keeping?
Therefore in that sense you could say that their arguments to keep the variants
becomes somewhat void?
Well that or they choose not to use their REAL account when it comes to voicing
their concerns which is what I would call "Kinda Silly!"
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2024 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, WOLKsite writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
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I wouldn't attribute it to dup accounts, that's kinda silly. More-so,
when Slugger and Duckbricks made their videos, that brought the attention of
a lot of people.
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No what is silly is where we have people with barely any feedback/transaction
history jumping up and down about the changes when they don't actually even
use the site for its primary intended purpose? Even the very few occasions when
you yourself have actually placed an order here, sellers appear to of had some
issues?
Using Bricklink as a resource alone is fine yet many of those same users also
expect their voices to be heard as though they somehow know what's best for
Bricklink and its wider user base?
That said, you don't think its a bit strange that we have all these new users
that have so much passion and complex understanding of variants but apparently
not quite enough passion to actually buy those variants that they claim to be
so passionate about keeping?
Therefore in that sense you could say that their arguments to keep the variants
becomes somewhat void?
Well that or they choose not to use their REAL account when it comes to voicing
their concerns which is what I would call "Kinda Silly!"
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what i find fascinating is Lego has been pushing for Diversity...
yet.....they merge Variants
someone had too say it
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2024 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | what i find fascinating is Lego has been pushing for Diversity...
yet.....they merge Variants
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That's the idea. Variants should NOT matter in this case.
But those variances are shown to make people understand they are as important
as the others, and not neglected.
In short, differenting for less discrimination.
Maybe just like as for the Catalog recent changes: you wish this one, but any
will equally correspond.
Yep, someone.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | what i find fascinating is Lego has been pushing for Diversity...
yet.....they merge Variants
someone had too say it
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Well, that's the thing: Some members believe that all variants are created
equal and that the catalog should include all variants regardless of their actual
prevalence, which seems quite reasonable.
But such a catalog would contain a dizzying array of variants. How useful would
it be to the average member?
There's no clear answer to that question, because there's no such thing
as the "average member"; we all come here for different reasons. Hence
the endless threads on variant merges.
Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, chetzler writes:
| | | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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It’s a joke 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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It’s a joke
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Oh… 
Maybe I missed the humor. Can you explain it? 
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| In General, chetzler writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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It’s a joke
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Oh…
Maybe I missed the humor. Can you explain it?
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Wildchicken loves to say funny things so since everyone is saying keep them all
or get rid of them all, etc he said let’s just keep 60% as a compromise joke
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | chetzler | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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It’s a joke
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Oh…
Maybe I missed the humor. Can you explain it?
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Wildchicken loves to say funny things so since everyone is saying keep them all
or get rid of them all, etc he said let’s just keep 60% as a compromise joke
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Uh-huh, I see. Good thing he has you speaking on his behalf
The specific figure of 60% alongside the word "compromise" was an unusual
editorial choice. It piqued my curiosity and left me wondering if there was
some deeper meaning.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, chetzler writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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So, it sounds like you are suggesting a 3/5 compromise? Can you elaborate on
this a little bit for anyone who might not understand how or why you arrived
at this number?
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It’s a joke
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Oh…
Maybe I missed the humor. Can you explain it?
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Wildchicken loves to say funny things so since everyone is saying keep them all
or get rid of them all, etc he said let’s just keep 60% as a compromise joke
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Uh-huh, I see. Good thing he has you speaking on his behalf
The specific figure of 60% alongside the word "compromise" was an unusual
editorial choice. It piqued my curiosity and left me wondering if there was
some deeper meaning.
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lets just hope I'm not also mistaken
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 15:07 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, chetzler writes:
| | Uh-huh, I see. Good thing he has you speaking on his behalf
The specific figure of 60% alongside the word "compromise" was an unusual
editorial choice. It piqued my curiosity and left me wondering if there was
some deeper meaning.
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There was, in fact, and I'm glad you picked up on it. Many Americans know
neither history nor math.
But on BrickLink, Americans are a minority. I wouldn't expect a Canadian
high school dropout to know the significance of that fraction.
If USA, Minnesota means Minneapolis, I'm sorry.
But if you read the rest of my post, you'll see that I'm actually embracing
diversity. The last line is just a facetious suggestion, as ridiculous as the
original it parodies.
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | Uh-huh, I see. Good thing he has you speaking on his behalf
The specific figure of 60% alongside the word "compromise" was an unusual
editorial choice. It piqued my curiosity and left me wondering if there was
some deeper meaning.
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There was, in fact, and I'm glad you picked up on it. Many Americans know
neither history nor math.
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Neither geography.
See: chickens should be located in Kentucky, but apparently some don't know
this!
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Neither geography.
See: chickens should be located in Kentucky, but apparently some don't know
this!
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Well, the "chicken" part of my nickname comes from my aunt in Wisconsin,
who gave me a book about how to raise chickens for my tenth birthday. She didn't
have any chickens herself, but her neighbors kept backyard chickens and she volunteered
on a vegetable farm during the summer (she worked as a school teacher).
Illinois has its fair share of poultry farms. The eggs in my refrigerator are
from Amish Family Farms in Saunemin.
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Neither geography.
See: chickens should be located in Kentucky, but apparently some don't know
this!
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Well, the "chicken" part of my nickname comes from my aunt in Wisconsin,
who gave me a book about how to raise chickens for my tenth birthday. She didn't
have any chickens herself, but her neighbors kept backyard chickens and she volunteered
on a vegetable farm during the summer (she worked as a school teacher).
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Nice story, thanks!
And the Wild part is you then? 
| | Illinois has its fair share of poultry farms. The eggs in my refrigerator are
from Amish Family Farms in Saunemin.
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Wow! Great to help local people live, we also do our best here to shop from local
source - and very few transportation/pollution associated
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Nice story, thanks!
And the Wild part is you then?
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Trying not to sound meek. I first used it for the Apple Game Center (for my tenth
birthday I also got an iPhone).
| | Wow! Great to help local people live, we also do our best here to shop from local
source - and very few transportation/pollution associated
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Indeed. I can't wait for the weather to get warmer so that I can shop at
the local farmer's market.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | But on BrickLink, Americans are a minority. I wouldn't expect a Canadian
high school dropout to know the significance of that fraction.
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In General, chetzler writes:
| | Uh-huh, I see. Good thing he has you speaking on his behalf
The specific figure of 60% alongside the word "compromise" was an unusual
editorial choice. It piqued my curiosity and left me wondering if there was
some deeper meaning.
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There was, in fact, and I'm glad you picked up on it. Many Americans know
neither history nor math.
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Hopefully, enough of us do.
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But on BrickLink, Americans are a minority. I wouldn't expect a Canadian
high school dropout to know the significance of that fraction.
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Ouch. Poor Nubs. 
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If USA, Minnesota means Minneapolis, I'm sorry.
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I'm not sure what you're apologizing for, but I'm not in The Cities.
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But if you read the rest of my post, you'll see that I'm actually embracing
diversity. The last line is just a facetious suggestion, as ridiculous as the
original it parodies.
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I did read your entire post. I just wanted to make sure that I did see what
I thought I saw: a comparison between the BrickLink catalog changes and the historical
devaluing of hundreds of thousands of enslaved African people. Thank you for
clarifying.
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| In General, chetzler writes:
| | Ouch. Poor Nubs.
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Well, he seems to be doing fine here. He runs one of the largest BrickLink stores
in Canada.
| | I'm not sure what you're apologizing for, but I'm not in The Cities.
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George Floyd
| | I did read your entire post. I just wanted to make sure that I did see what
I thought I saw: a comparison between the BrickLink catalog changes and the historical
devaluing of hundreds of thousands of enslaved African people. Thank you for
clarifying.
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Well, to be fair, it was PlanetEarthToys that first brought up diversity in the
context of the BrickLink catalog. But I can understand why some would not want
to make such comparisons.
I'm just trying to bridge the gap between those on opposite sides of the
Mason-Dixon Line. Many sellers wonder why they don't receive more orders
from Arkansas: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448903
But I understand perfectly well. I'm very fortunate to live just down the
road from a LEGO retail store where my parents bought me toys, but there isn't
a single one in the entire state.
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | | | I did read your entire post. I just wanted to make sure that I did see what
I thought I saw: a comparison between the BrickLink catalog changes and the historical
devaluing of hundreds of thousands of enslaved African people. Thank you for
clarifying.
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Well, to be fair, it was PlanetEarthToys that first brought up diversity in the
context of the BrickLink catalog. But I can understand why some would not want
to make such comparisons.
I'm just trying to bridge the gap between those on opposite sides of the
Mason-Dixon Line. Many sellers wonder why they don't receive more orders
from Arkansas: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448903
But I understand perfectly well. I'm very fortunate to live just down the
road from a LEGO retail store where my parents bought me toys, but there isn't
a single one in the entire state.
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But anyway, to bring the topic back to the current BrickLink catalog changes.
If you read my post carefully, you'll notice that I am referring to the diversity
of the BrickLink member base (there's no such thing as the "average
member"; we all come here for different reasons), not the catalog itself.
The catalog is a mere reflection of the member base.
The current catalog structure, as well as many of the variants in question, date
back to the early days of the site (or at least before I joined), when BrickLink
was just a community of AFOLs.
But BrickLink is more of an ecommerce marketplace now; the majority of current
members have registered since the start of the pandemic:
https://www.bricklink.com/calendar.asp?v=M
And the current catalog changes are merely a reflection of BrickLink's new
member base, few of whom care about or are even aware of such minor mold variations
as those being discussed in the forum, or even use the forum to begin with.
Now, many of the old guard are understandably upset by these changes, and newer
members who value BrickLink for the completeness and historical accuracy of its
database are upset as well. But these people are a relatively small yet active
and vocal minority, and the powers that be must weigh their concerns against
the more casual users that make up the majority of the site's member base.
This also brings into question the very accuracy of the catalog/database to begin
with. In addition to the variants that are currently given separate entries in
the BrickLink catalog, there are even more unsplit part variants that are not:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1451681
Thus why I'm largely indifferent toward the changes. Yes, we are losing information,
but there's even more information out there that we don't have.
Furthermore, more information is not always better. Old variants may be nice
when trying to restore old sets using historically accurate parts, but it can
be unhelpful when trying to build a simple MOC.
Being a minority is has its disadvantages. There's strength in numbers, hence
why we got rid of that ugly three-fifths compromise. Now, at least congressional
apportionment represents everyone equally, but you only need a simple majority
to pass legislation that applies to everyone.
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Apart this below thanks for the very interesting post.
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Apart this below thanks for the very interesting post.
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Your posts say much the same thing, but you're French, so your English doesn't
sound as pretentious as mine does.
They say Illinois is a microcosm of America. We've got northerners, southerners,
city folk, country bumpkins, and everything in between. And Barack Obama.
There's a reason the word "sovereignty" is written upside-down in
the state seal; we put national union above state sovereignty.
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | Now, at least congressional apportionment represents everyone equally,...
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In the House of Representatives, yes. In the Senate, no. But we can't go
there in these forums.
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | Now, at least congressional apportionment represents everyone equally,
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In the House of Representatives, yes. In the Senate, no.
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What I meant is that, for the purpose of congressional apportionment, everyone
is counted equally (even noncitizens).
The Senate counts states equally; the House of Representatives counts people
equally.
| | But we can't go there in these forums.
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There is legal precedent: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1422459
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
The linked comment is a legal comment (zeugma: both lawful and about law).
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | But anyway, to bring the topic back to the current BrickLink catalog changes.
If you read my post carefully, you'll notice that I am referring to the diversity
of the BrickLink member base (there's no such thing as the "average
member"; we all come here for different reasons), not the catalog itself.
The catalog is a mere reflection of the member base.
The current catalog structure, as well as many of the variants in question, date
back to the early days of the site (or at least before I joined), when BrickLink
was just a community of AFOLs.
But BrickLink is more of an ecommerce marketplace now; the majority of current
members have registered since the start of the pandemic:
https://www.bricklink.com/calendar.asp?v=M
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Half of them gummie accounts /s
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | Personally, I've to propose a compromise: Keep 60% of the variants in the
catalog…
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We could make it even more fun by having it apply to 60% within said variant.
Say keep 60% of the blocked open studs but merge the rest
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, WOLKsite writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
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I wouldn't attribute it to dup accounts, that's kinda silly. More-so,
when Slugger and Duckbricks made their videos, that brought the attention of
a lot of people.
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No what is silly is where we have people with barely any feedback/transaction
history jumping up and down about the changes when they don't actually even
use the site for its primary intended purpose? Even the very few occasions when
you yourself have actually placed an order here, sellers appear to of had some
issues?
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That's 2 instances from years ago, before I knew how the site worked. I don't
place orders often because like most people, I don't have a lot of money
to simply throw around.
| | Using Bricklink as a resource alone is fine yet many of those same users also
expect their voices to be heard as though they somehow know what's best for
Bricklink and its wider user base?
That said, you don't think its a bit strange that we have all these new users
that have so much passion and complex understanding of variants but apparently
not quite enough passion to actually buy those variants that they claim to be
so passionate about keeping?
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No, I don't. Nor have I seen that many with a complex understand of variants,
more-so people who think they know more than they do - typically because they
got an inaccurate summary of things. Most do not seem to even grasp what the
changes actually are.
| | Therefore in that sense you could say that their arguments to keep the variants
becomes somewhat void?
Well that or they choose not to use their REAL account when it comes to voicing
their concerns which is what I would call "Kinda Silly!"
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Perhaps their opinions are void, I'm not the one to judge that. That doesn't
make them duplicate accounts, that's jumping to conclusions.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 15:22 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WOLKsite writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | That said, you don't think its a bit strange that we have all these new users
that have so much passion and complex understanding of variants but apparently
not quite enough passion to actually buy those variants that they claim to be
so passionate about keeping?
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No, I don't. Nor have I seen that many with a complex understand of variants,
more-so people who think they know more than they do - typically because they
got an inaccurate summary of things. Most do not seem to even grasp what the
changes actually are.
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Maybe, people who have a "deep knowledge" of understanding variants,
but along with only a couple orders per year, can't have such a deep knowledge.
Because reality is different.
You HAVE to place orders, guess or pick the proper variant, receive (often) the
wrong one, place another one, build an old Set, sell it with more or less success...
Then maybe you can say you have this deep IRL knowledge.
If not, while only "checking numbers and versions", I wouldn't call
this a knowledge confronted and verified in the reality.
Sorry.
PS: I just received a couple of 3068a Red said New which are definitely Used.
Very fine quality, no problem, but Used while sold New. That's the reality
only an order can confirm.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 17:45 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Maybe, people who have a "deep knowledge" of understanding variants,
but along with only a couple orders per year, can't have such a deep knowledge.
Because reality is different.
You HAVE to place orders, guess or pick the proper variant, receive (often) the
wrong one, place another one, build an old Set, sell it with more or less success...
Then maybe you can say you have this deep IRL knowledge.
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Yes, because as we all know, buying and selling LEGO on Bricklink is the true
purpose of LEGO, thus you can only obtain LEGO on Bricklink, and only do so for
the purpose of selling. It's absolutely impossible to buy LEGO from a regular
store to add to your collection which contains things inherited from a past generation.
Reality is bigger than Bricklink, Bricklink transaction history doesn't define
a person's familiarity with LEGO.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 17:57 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | It's absolutely impossible to buy LEGO from a regular
store to add to your collection which contains things inherited from a past generation.
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Few are (so) interested in the past.
I tried to explain this about stamps: there are stamp collectors, and everyday
stamp users.
You can't believe that stamp users (even nowadays) buy maybe 1 million times
more stamps than collectors?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 18:11 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | You can't believe that stamp users (even nowadays) buy maybe 1 million times
more stamps than collectors?
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I can -- but on that note, from a general store. Bricklink as a market place
is already a niché, the vast majority of people who just want to buy LEGO to
build with would just go to their local toy store, or find their way to the
Pick a Brick website with the big official LEGO stamp on it. The reason you'd
look for something specialized like Bricklink is more likely because you're
already looking for something specific.
What point are you trying to make? This doesn't seem relevant to the supposed
dup-account thing.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 18:47 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, WOLKsite writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | You can't believe that stamp users (even nowadays) buy maybe 1 million times
more stamps than collectors?
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I can -- but on that note, from a general store.
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Which is what BrickLink is.
PAB ships to far fewer Countries, have less lots, is often more expensive, and
with a longer to a huuuger delay. People DO buy tons of regular parts on BrickLink.
| | What point are you trying to make? This doesn't seem relevant to the supposed
dup-account thing.
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It's related, but I won't tell, obvious and enough said, sorry.
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| | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 17:33 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
In General, infinibrix writes:
| | I hope the admins are taking note only there are people here like myself that
have always followed the rules despite wanting and being denied a second account
for legitimate reasons (separate business from personal) and yet there are clearly
members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion
in the forum?
How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
Yes perhaps one or two of these never buy or sell and only use Bricklink as a
database reference in which case are they the best voices to be listening to
anyway given they don’t actually contribute to the core element of the site which
is to buy and sell Lego!
But let’s be honest having an opinion is one thing but using a second account
to voice that same opinion again is unhelpful spamming and so I hope admins will
investigate and merge these accounts!
Ultimately as far as peoples opinions go in general I understand the arguments
on both sides and to a degree sympathies but generally a lot of these arguments
seem to be along the lines that the merge is a bad idea because people will no
longer be able to easily distinguish the correct variant? Yet this appears to
be the exact intention, since Bricklink has already openly stated that they do
not particularly want members of its community (New or Old) being overly bogged
down and concerned with these variants. They essentially want them dismissed/forgotten
about! (Pretty much their own words)
With this in mind it really isn’t in Bricklinks best interest to put in place
any specific solution that only further prevents them breaking away from what
they are trying to break away from? Therefore in the end it can only be for individual
members who care about this stuff to either use the comments field or ask the
question!
The way I see it, this change is probably going to hinder maybe 1% of the community
whilst making things smoother and more efficient for 99% of the community. It’s
a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 17:51 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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Let me guess; you only sell used parts. Like so many vocal supports of not merging
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
This does bother you because your buyers only want old rare used parts and you
believe
this might may you sell less.
I would add:
LEGO is for creating, building and playing.
Collectors rebuilding 1980 Sets, and buyers acquiring them at high price are
comparatively VERY few.
Now you'll say: "Let me guess; you only sell new parts."
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| | | | | | | Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 18:27 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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I can't speak for other sellers, but personally I will loose sales with this
change, yet I support this change because, in the lack of the ideal umbrella
system, this merge, I do believe, makes it easier for 99% of the buyers.
I will add a screenshot because, this link will soon mean nothing, but as you
can see I do have some horses in the variant race:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=3626cpx83&colorID=90
I've been selling these heads now and then at nice prices, while the b) variant
is almost worthless. I will eventually loose the ability to sell it so often,
yes. But I still support the merge of c) and b) heads because I think that they
should never have been separated to begin with.
Hope that's ok to just have an opinion. As in an extrapolation-free opinion.
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 22:11 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
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If you have a difference of opinion to me over the planned merges then great
your welcome to your own opinion.... the purpose of my post is simply to raise
my suspicions over the fact that I suspect people are using dupe accounts or
possibly hiding behind a second account whilst they go about criticizing the
changes! It has nothing to do with me believing "I know best"
| | This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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I think you know perfectly well that you're attempting to sideline your argument
to make it sound like those who approve of the merge have their own selfish motives
when in reality these changes are going to improve and simplify buying/selling
for 99% of Bricklink users! Right now we have a clonky system in place that lacks
efficiency which every single user is forced to use primarily to cater for the
less than 1% that actually care about minor variants!
Buyers will no longer have to search in multiple places for what is essentially
the same part and sellers won't have to sort and separate minor variants.
Most of these changes are time/efficiency improvements, not money making improvements!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 22:35 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
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If you have a difference of opinion to me over the planned merges then great
your welcome to your own opinion.... the purpose of my post is simply to raise
my suspicions over the fact that I suspect people are using dupe accounts or
possibly hiding behind a second account whilst they go about criticizing the
changes! It has nothing to do with me believing "I know best"
| | This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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I think you know perfectly well that you're attempting to sideline your argument
to make it sound like those who approve of the merge have their own selfish motives
when in reality these changes are going to improve and simplify buying/selling
for 99% of Bricklink users! Right now we have a clonky system in place that lacks
efficiency which every single user is forced to use primarily to cater for the
less than 1% that actually care about minor variants!
Buyers will no longer have to search in multiple places for what is essentially
the same part and sellers won't have to sort and separate minor variants.
Most of these changes are time/efficiency improvements, not money making improvements!
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Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | dolphinfree | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 23:25 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Statistically you are 98.76% accurate. Seriously, I did a 10 year study on this.
Almost got my doctorate, until they found out I made up that 1.24%. Hope I did
sheath right there.
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| In General, dolphinfree writes:
| | Statistically you are 98.76% accurate. Seriously, I did a 10 year study on this.
Almost got my doctorate, until they found out I made up that 1.24%. Hope I did
sheath right there.
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Holy shi] autocrorrect, math not sheath. WTH? Seriously, now you make me sound
like I made this all up. Stooped autocorrect.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 00:35 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
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If you have a difference of opinion to me over the planned merges then great
your welcome to your own opinion.... the purpose of my post is simply to raise
my suspicions over the fact that I suspect people are using dupe accounts or
possibly hiding behind a second account whilst they go about criticizing the
changes! It has nothing to do with me believing "I know best"
| | This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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I think you know perfectly well that you're attempting to sideline your argument
to make it sound like those who approve of the merge have their own selfish motives
when in reality these changes are going to improve and simplify buying/selling
for 99% of Bricklink users! Right now we have a clonky system in place that lacks
efficiency which every single user is forced to use primarily to cater for the
less than 1% that actually care about minor variants!
Buyers will no longer have to search in multiple places for what is essentially
the same part and sellers won't have to sort and separate minor variants.
Most of these changes are time/efficiency improvements, not money making improvements!
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Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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It 87.61578383 over here
On a side note everyone always says it takes sellers extra time to “sort variants”
but in general that’s only done for used parts and for used parts you have to
look it over for damage so identifying a variant literally take no extra time
(unless it’s a very difficult to tell apart one which are rare) if you confirm
when checking for damage (tho to be fair with my buying experience many who sell
used don’t do the “check for damage” step )
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 09:28 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
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| | | | Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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It 87.61578383 over here
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Oh that so IEEE-754!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 09:54 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
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| | | | Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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It 87.61578383 over here
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Oh that so IEEE-754!
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It’s IEEE-753.9875 over here.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 10:07 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
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| | | | Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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It 87.61578383 over here
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Oh that so IEEE-754!
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It’s IEEE-753.9875 over here.
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0.1+0.2==0.3
false
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 03:20 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
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If you have a difference of opinion to me over the planned merges then great
your welcome to your own opinion.... the purpose of my post is simply to raise
my suspicions over the fact that I suspect people are using dupe accounts or
possibly hiding behind a second account whilst they go about criticizing the
changes! It has nothing to do with me believing "I know best"
| | This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
|
I think you know perfectly well that you're attempting to sideline your argument
to make it sound like those who approve of the merge have their own selfish motives
when in reality these changes are going to improve and simplify buying/selling
for 99% of Bricklink users! Right now we have a clonky system in place that lacks
efficiency which every single user is forced to use primarily to cater for the
less than 1% that actually care about minor variants!
Buyers will no longer have to search in multiple places for what is essentially
the same part and sellers won't have to sort and separate minor variants.
Most of these changes are time/efficiency improvements, not money making improvements!
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Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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They were never intended to be accurate statistics!
Stating 1% is just a very simple quick way of saying "A very, very, tiny
percentage". I hope that makes things more clear for you only you seem to
have a habit of taking comments too literally where you appear to struggle to
read between the lines!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 12:12 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | Let me guess; you only sell new parts. Like so many vocal supports of the merge
who will surely reply with their "I'm bigger so I know what's best
for everybody" argument.
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If you have a difference of opinion to me over the planned merges then great
your welcome to your own opinion.... the purpose of my post is simply to raise
my suspicions over the fact that I suspect people are using dupe accounts or
possibly hiding behind a second account whilst they go about criticizing the
changes! It has nothing to do with me believing "I know best"
| | This does not bother you because your buyers only want new parts and you believe
this might even help you sell more.
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I think you know perfectly well that you're attempting to sideline your argument
to make it sound like those who approve of the merge have their own selfish motives
when in reality these changes are going to improve and simplify buying/selling
for 99% of Bricklink users! Right now we have a clonky system in place that lacks
efficiency which every single user is forced to use primarily to cater for the
less than 1% that actually care about minor variants!
Buyers will no longer have to search in multiple places for what is essentially
the same part and sellers won't have to sort and separate minor variants.
Most of these changes are time/efficiency improvements, not money making improvements!
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Did you know that 83% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
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They were never intended to be accurate statistics!
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That's the point. It's humor. Lighten up.
| | Stating 1% is just a very simple quick way of saying "A very, very, tiny
percentage". I hope that makes things more clear for you only you seem to
have a habit of taking comments too literally where you appear to struggle to
read between the lines!
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 19:13 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| It doesn't matter if the people in the forum debate are real. The bosses
aren't listening.
In General, infinibrix writes:
| | I hope the admins are taking note only there are people here like myself that
have always followed the rules despite wanting and being denied a second account
for legitimate reasons (separate business from personal) and yet there are clearly
members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion
in the forum?
How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the highest/most complex
level of understanding when it comes to variants?
Yes perhaps one or two of these never buy or sell and only use Bricklink as a
database reference in which case are they the best voices to be listening to
anyway given they don’t actually contribute to the core element of the site which
is to buy and sell Lego!
But let’s be honest having an opinion is one thing but using a second account
to voice that same opinion again is unhelpful spamming and so I hope admins will
investigate and merge these accounts!
Ultimately as far as peoples opinions go in general I understand the arguments
on both sides and to a degree sympathies but generally a lot of these arguments
seem to be along the lines that the merge is a bad idea because people will no
longer be able to easily distinguish the correct variant? Yet this appears to
be the exact intention, since Bricklink has already openly stated that they do
not particularly want members of its community (New or Old) being overly bogged
down and concerned with these variants. They essentially want them dismissed/forgotten
about! (Pretty much their own words)
With this in mind it really isn’t in Bricklinks best interest to put in place
any specific solution that only further prevents them breaking away from what
they are trying to break away from? Therefore in the end it can only be for individual
members who care about this stuff to either use the comments field or ask the
question!
The way I see it, this change is probably going to hinder maybe 1% of the community
whilst making things smoother and more efficient for 99% of the community. It’s
a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2024 23:05 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
| | The way I see it, this change is . . . a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
|
And with this, you have made an extraordinarily perspicacious observation.
.
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 03:24 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 104 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
|
No surprise at all about being in the minority in the forum because those that
use the forum tend to have a more in depth interest in the catalog and it's
variants
| | | | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
|
You know very well it doesn't hence why you also felt the need to re-iterate
your comment further down this post... So shall I just skip this part and respond
further down to save us both the bother of you attempting to put words in my
mouth??
| | Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
|
You inadvertently just pointed out the key differences between those two users
and other regular users in that they are not your average user! i.e they regularly
spend much of their time in the forum or in depth talking about Lego and/or working
on the catalog. That's very different to unknown users suddenly popping up
in the forum with extremely strong views on the changes where there is barely
any evidence of them having used the site for its primary purpose. Again the
primary purpose of this site is to buy and sell Lego, many decisions being made
here are specifically centered around improving this aspect of the sites functionality
therefore forgive me if I don't share their same strength of opinion as you
do but hey perhaps you are also being bias?
| | Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I'm not directly accusing any accounts but I stand by my concerns that the
comments and demands from some of these accounts is very suspicious to me and
even if just one account is using a second account inappropriately that's
still one too many!
| |
| | The way I see it, this change is . . . a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
|
And with this, you have made an extraordinarily perspicacious observation.
|
My perspicacious observation is that people like yourself and randy are finally
starting to realize that the Bricklink site is not your own personal project!
It is owned by Lego who will do with the site as they see fit. The fact that
you do not approve of their vison for this site is not my concern, though it
has to be said that you intentionally continue to be a negative disruptor in
the forum towards Bricklink, Lego, Russell and now people like myself simply
for approving of the changes. I suspect the real issue here is that you've
never quite got over your fall out with Bricklink to the point that its now impossible
for you to comprehend/accept that anyone could actually approve/agree with anything
Bricklink does at all!
Your posts only show me that that you desperately appear to seek attention as
you seem to constantly go about prodding the bear with a stick hoping to spark
some kind of uprising! An uprising that inevitably falls flat!:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1449063
You really need to let your frustration and anger towards Bricklink go....
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
|
No surprise at all about being in the minority in the forum because those that
use the forum tend to have a more in depth interest in the catalog and it's
variants
| | | | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
|
You know very well it doesn't hence why you also felt the need to re-iterate
your comment further down this post... So shall I just skip this part and respond
further down to save us both the bother of you attempting to put words in my
mouth??
| | Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
|
You inadvertently just pointed out the key differences between those two users
and other regular users in that they are not your average user! i.e they regularly
spend much of their time in the forum or in depth talking about Lego and/or working
on the catalog. That's very different to unknown users suddenly popping up
in the forum with extremely strong views on the changes where there is barely
any evidence of them having used the site for its primary purpose. Again the
primary purpose of this site is to buy and sell Lego, many decisions being made
here are specifically centered around improving this aspect of the sites functionality
therefore forgive me if I don't share their same strength of opinion as you
do but hey perhaps you are also being bias?
| | Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I'm not directly accusing any accounts but I stand by my concerns that the
comments and demands from some of these accounts is very suspicious to me and
even if just one account is using a second account inappropriately that's
still one too many!
| |
| | The way I see it, this change is . . . a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
|
And with this, you have made an extraordinarily perspicacious observation.
|
My perspicacious observation is that people like yourself and randy are finally
starting to realize that the Bricklink site is not your own personal project!
|
Hey, please don't lump me into this. I said from the very beginning that
I was okay with almost all of the changes currently being proposed (there were
just a couple parts I disagreed with), that LEGO BrickLink was going to do whatever
they wanted to do, and that I thought a better way of handling the situation
would have been to create a better system for *all* users. Those were my opinions,
just as everyone else voiced their opinions. I honestly don't know how you
got "finally starting to realize that the Bricklink site is not your own
personal project" out of that. You seem to have a personal vendetta against
me, and I don't know why, but it makes more sense now why you couldn't
even accept true compliments for your store from myself in a prior thread.
| | It is owned by Lego who will do with the site as they see fit. The fact that
you do not approve of their vison for this site is not my concern, though it
has to be said that you intentionally continue to be a negative disruptor in
the forum towards Bricklink, Lego, Russell and now people like myself simply
for approving of the changes. I suspect the real issue here is that you've
never quite got over your fall out with Bricklink to the point that its now impossible
for you to comprehend/accept that anyone could actually approve/agree with anything
Bricklink does at all!
Your posts only show me that that you desperately appear to seek attention as
you seem to constantly go about prodding the bear with a stick hoping to spark
some kind of uprising! An uprising that inevitably falls flat!:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1449063
You really need to let your frustration and anger towards Bricklink go....
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And I wish you would let go of whatever frustration and anger you have towards
me. I hold out hope, and I just kindly ask you not to bring my name into things
that I am not party to.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 06:35 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, randyf writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
|
No surprise at all about being in the minority in the forum because those that
use the forum tend to have a more in depth interest in the catalog and it's
variants
| | | | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
|
You know very well it doesn't hence why you also felt the need to re-iterate
your comment further down this post... So shall I just skip this part and respond
further down to save us both the bother of you attempting to put words in my
mouth??
| | Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
|
You inadvertently just pointed out the key differences between those two users
and other regular users in that they are not your average user! i.e they regularly
spend much of their time in the forum or in depth talking about Lego and/or working
on the catalog. That's very different to unknown users suddenly popping up
in the forum with extremely strong views on the changes where there is barely
any evidence of them having used the site for its primary purpose. Again the
primary purpose of this site is to buy and sell Lego, many decisions being made
here are specifically centered around improving this aspect of the sites functionality
therefore forgive me if I don't share their same strength of opinion as you
do but hey perhaps you are also being bias?
| | Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I'm not directly accusing any accounts but I stand by my concerns that the
comments and demands from some of these accounts is very suspicious to me and
even if just one account is using a second account inappropriately that's
still one too many!
| |
| | The way I see it, this change is . . . a no brainer from Bricklinks perspective!
|
And with this, you have made an extraordinarily perspicacious observation.
|
My perspicacious observation is that people like yourself and randy are finally
starting to realize that the Bricklink site is not your own personal project!
|
Hey, please don't lump me into this. I said from the very beginning that
I was okay with almost all of the changes currently being proposed (there were
just a couple parts I disagreed with), that LEGO BrickLink was going to do whatever
they wanted to do, and that I thought a better way of handling the situation
would have been to create a better system for *all* users. Those were my opinions,
just as everyone else voiced their opinions. I honestly don't know how you
got "finally starting to realize that the Bricklink site is not your own
personal project" out of that. You seem to have a personal vendetta against
me, and I don't know why, but it makes more sense now why you couldn't
even accept true compliments for your store from myself in a prior thread.
|
Back handed compliments are not TRUE compliments just like you expect me to see
your banter comment further up this thread as a joke yet in another thread you
already specifically link to this whole thread where you criticize the subject
of it and therefore any comments you write within it can only be seen as smarmy
with an underlying negative motive regardless of whether you include an insincere
smiley at the end or not!
As I've said already.... I find your so called positive comments/joking with
me to be disingenuous!
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| | | | | | | Author: | rickcraine | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 13:05 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I am one of the 11 accounts you mentioned...and I will put this into the forum
to make things clear...
I am relatively new to Bricklink, as I have said before. This account is even
newer, which I have also said before, and which I have also explained why already
(in short, the old one wasn't really mine).
What I don't understand is that whoever started this thread seems to not
realize the fact that you can be a Lego fan and not be on Bricklink. (But when
a hardcore Lego fan joins a place like Bricklink, they want things to be as detailed
as possible. Does the majority want the detail or even care? I am not asking
that again.)I am just pointing out the fact there is more than enough viable
reasons for people like me to be on the forum, voicing their opinion.
And these people may care for various reasons. Why did I argue against the variant
merge? Not because I collect old stuff, but because I saw some of the changes
as unnecessary happenstances. I saw it as a change that would annoy and frustrate
a small percentage of the population, and not benefit the majority enough to
be worth changing what was in place.
I've watched the forum since the argument, and now read through most of the
stuff that goes on here. Obviously, however, I should not be doing this, since
new faces (that really care about Lego!) are not accepted on this apparently
elitist website...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 13:24 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Stick with it, it’s a great place but does have many people with strong views
which they like to express, no reference to who you are responding to, just a
general comment.
I’ve always been against the changes as I like as much detail as possible in
anything I do.
Expressed early on that nothing said would change much if anything so I’ve left
everyone to it.
Don’t let it put you off BL, despite some attitudes, decisions, members etc it
is still a great site.
In General, rickcraine writes:
| | In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I am one of the 11 accounts you mentioned...and I will put this into the forum
to make things clear...
I am relatively new to Bricklink, as I have said before. This account is even
newer, which I have also said before, and which I have also explained why already
(in short, the old one wasn't really mine).
What I don't understand is that whoever started this thread seems to not
realize the fact that you can be a Lego fan and not be on Bricklink. (But when
a hardcore Lego fan joins a place like Bricklink, they want things to be as detailed
as possible. Does the majority want the detail or even care? I am not asking
that again.)I am just pointing out the fact there is more than enough viable
reasons for people like me to be on the forum, voicing their opinion.
And these people may care for various reasons. Why did I argue against the variant
merge? Not because I collect old stuff, but because I saw some of the changes
as unnecessary happenstances. I saw it as a change that would annoy and frustrate
a small percentage of the population, and not benefit the majority enough to
be worth changing what was in place.
I've watched the forum since the argument, and now read through most of the
stuff that goes on here. Obviously, however, I should not be doing this, since
new faces (that really care about Lego!) are not accepted on this apparently
elitist website...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2024 13:34 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rickcraine writes:
| | In General, StormChaser writes:
| | In General, infinibrix writes:
| | there are clearly members here using second accounts to strengthen the voice of their own opinion in the forum?
|
Buuuut . . . how clear is it really? Is your bias toward approval of the decision
causing you to make mildly outrageous and clearly unsupported claims, perhaps
augmented by your surprise at being significantly in the minority?
| | How is it possible that so many replies against the variant merge are from people
with barely any feedback yet they still appear to have the
highest/most complex level of understanding
|
You joined this website 11 years after me, yet you have nearly 10 times the feedback
I do. Does your higher level of feedback mean that your opinion is more meaningful
than mine?
Member SylvainLS, who is affiliated with the website itself as a forum moderator,
has a feedback score of merely 46, even though he joined in 2014. Another person
affiliated with the site as a catalog expert (Turez) has an even lower feedback
score of only 43 and he joined the site two years earlier in 2012.
Therefore, I can only assume you must be referring to really low feedback
scores. In fact, I have decided to assume you mean scores of 10 or fewer feedback.
I went through the entire list of replies to the main post and there were only
11 members with such a low feedback score (see analysis below).
So these are the 11 accounts you are accusing of being duplicates and asking
site administration to investigate, correct?
|
I am one of the 11 accounts you mentioned...and I will put this into the forum
to make things clear...
I am relatively new to Bricklink, as I have said before. This account is even
newer, which I have also said before, and which I have also explained why already
(in short, the old one wasn't really mine).
What I don't understand is that whoever started this thread seems to not
realize the fact that you can be a Lego fan and not be on Bricklink. (But when
a hardcore Lego fan joins a place like Bricklink, they want things to be as detailed
as possible. Does the majority want the detail or even care? I am not asking
that again.)I am just pointing out the fact there is more than enough viable
reasons for people like me to be on the forum, voicing their opinion.
And these people may care for various reasons. Why did I argue against the variant
merge? Not because I collect old stuff, but because I saw some of the changes
as unnecessary happenstances. I saw it as a change that would annoy and frustrate
a small percentage of the population, and not benefit the majority enough to
be worth changing what was in place.
I've watched the forum since the argument, and now read through most of the
stuff that goes on here. Obviously, however, I should not be doing this, since
new faces (that really care about Lego!) are not accepted on this apparently
elitist website...
|
the constant attacks on new members, anyone who posts not positive feedback &
anyone with an inkling to be New Competition on the Marketplace is getting
old.......
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 07:08 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rickcraine writes:
| |
I am one of the 11 accounts you mentioned
|
Yes and yet I hope you can appreciate that my statement is a generalized statement.
It does not target any one individual such as yourself or anyone else but
Stormchaser has taken it open himself to go to the trouble of counting and listing
each individual with less than 10 feedback simply because just like many of his
other posts towards others such as admins and bricklink, he is a stirrer and
I assume he just wants those members like yourself to jump in on this thread
to attack me simply because he does not like my overall view point on the variant
merge!
Ironically when he was an admin for the catalog team his own responses towards
newer members suggesting anything would quite often be abrupt and dismissive
and so I really don’t think I need to take any lectures from him in that regards!
| | I am relatively new to Bricklink, as I have said before. This account is even
newer, which I have also said before, and which I have also explained why already
(in short, the old one wasn't really mine).
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You don’t even need to defend yourself. The purpose of my post was to bring my
suspicions to the attention of the admins and that is all, Is that so wrong?
Others have expressed similar suspicions within these threads however it is not
the huge witch-hunt that it is being made out to be!
| | I am just pointing out the fact there is more than enough viable
reasons for people like me to be on the forum, voicing their opinion.
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Of course, but I hope you can also appreciate that if someone who seemingly has
little experience at climbing mountains tells everyone they won’t need safety
ropes people are well within their right to be somewhat dismissive towards their
opinion and challenge that? Therefore I really don't see it as being "Elitist!".
Many members with less than 10 feedback are also my customers and many customers
know more about Lego than I do and I’m sure they know more than most other sellers
too. However selling to expert Lego enthusiasts can be problematic. Hence it
better these hardcore collectors tell us exactly what they need by asking rather
than assume all sellers are listing minor variants correctly!
| | Why did I argue against the variant
merge? Not because I collect old stuff, but because I saw some of the changes
as unnecessary happenstances. I saw it as a change that would annoy and frustrate
a small percentage of the population, and not benefit the majority enough to
be worth changing what was in place.
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This is the only reason I would strongly challenge your opinion because your
opinion could affect how people buy and sell here. Neither of which you appear
to do? If you’re not a seller and do not have to sort the variants or be held
accountable for the incorrect minor variants being sent then it isn’t a problem
for you? Hence whilst your fully entitled to your opinion I also feel I’m in
my right to challenge that based on your lack of experience (or seemingly lack
of experience) on the complications variants can create from the selling side
of things?
Again its not about being Eliteist! But its about showing greater consideration
to the opinions from those it actually affects on a day to day basis and so I’m
sorry if there isn’t a better way of saying that without it sounding Eliteist
but there you go!
| | I've watched the forum since the argument, and now read through most of the
stuff that goes on here. Obviously, however, I should not be doing this, since
new faces (that really care about Lego!) are not accepted on this apparently
elitist website...
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Your as much welcome here as any!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rickcraine | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 11:22 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, infinibrix writes:
| | In General, rickcraine writes:
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I am one of the 11 accounts you mentioned
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Yes and yet I hope you can appreciate that my statement is a generalized statement.
It does not target any one individual such as yourself or anyone else but
Stormchaser has taken it open himself to go to the trouble of counting and listing
each individual with less than 10 feedback simply because just like many of his
other posts towards others such as admins and bricklink, he is a stirrer and
I assume he just wants those members like yourself to jump in on this thread
to attack me simply because he does not like my overall view point on the variant
merge!
Ironically when he was an admin for the catalog team his own responses towards
newer members suggesting anything would quite often be abrupt and dismissive
and so I really don’t think I need to take any lectures from him in that regards!
| | I am relatively new to Bricklink, as I have said before. This account is even
newer, which I have also said before, and which I have also explained why already
(in short, the old one wasn't really mine).
|
You don’t even need to defend yourself. The purpose of my post was to bring my
suspicions to the attention of the admins and that is all, Is that so wrong?
Others have expressed similar suspicions within these threads however it is not
the huge witch-hunt that it is being made out to be!
| | I am just pointing out the fact there is more than enough viable
reasons for people like me to be on the forum, voicing their opinion.
|
Of course, but I hope you can also appreciate that if someone who seemingly has
little experience at climbing mountains tells everyone they won’t need safety
ropes people are well within their right to be somewhat dismissive towards their
opinion and challenge that? Therefore I really don't see it as being "Elitist!".
Many members with less than 10 feedback are also my customers and many customers
know more about Lego than I do and I’m sure they know more than most other sellers
too. However selling to expert Lego enthusiasts can be problematic. Hence it
better these hardcore collectors tell us exactly what they need by asking rather
than assume all sellers are listing minor variants correctly!
| | Why did I argue against the variant
merge? Not because I collect old stuff, but because I saw some of the changes
as unnecessary happenstances. I saw it as a change that would annoy and frustrate
a small percentage of the population, and not benefit the majority enough to
be worth changing what was in place.
|
This is the only reason I would strongly challenge your opinion because your
opinion could affect how people buy and sell here. Neither of which you appear
to do? If you’re not a seller and do not have to sort the variants or be held
accountable for the incorrect minor variants being sent then it isn’t a problem
for you? Hence whilst your fully entitled to your opinion I also feel I’m in
my right to challenge that based on your lack of experience (or seemingly lack
of experience) on the complications variants can create from the selling side
of things?
Again its not about being Eliteist! But its about showing greater consideration
to the opinions from those it actually affects on a day to day basis and so I’m
sorry if there isn’t a better way of saying that without it sounding Eliteist
but there you go!
| | I've watched the forum since the argument, and now read through most of the
stuff that goes on here. Obviously, however, I should not be doing this, since
new faces (that really care about Lego!) are not accepted on this apparently
elitist website...
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Your as much welcome here as any!
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Thanks for that great response. I didn't mean to make you think I was attacking
you, I was just pointing out there may be a viable reason for people with little
feedback to be on here, which you aptly answered.
I can tell you feel annoyed and betrayed by a lot of people, which is inevitable
with the way people argue in today's world. The sad part is that the biggest
problem this variant merge has caused is the destruction of many people's
respect for each other.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 13, 2024 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Dupe Accounts to push Variant Merge Argument? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rickcraine writes:
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Thanks for that great response. I didn't mean to make you think I was attacking
you
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No I didn't think that at all as your initial message here was very diplomatic
and fair to be honest with any misunderstandings between us not helped by one
or two others misinterpreting my comments and fueling the fire!
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