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 Author: Yo_Yo_Flamingo View Messages Posted By Yo_Yo_Flamingo
 Posted: Jan 25, 2024 21:51
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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Yo_Yo_Flamingo (5766)

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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:

  The inside supports, as on part 32064c, are critical for function. They allow
the part to be used as a jumper and on jumpers. This is not a trivial mold change!
It radically changes the functionality of the part!

Can you provide one illustration of an official LEGO model that uses this building
technique with a 32064?
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick

My knowledge of set instructions isn't comprehensive for that. I know I've
done it in my own MOCs and I know that configuration of inside supports has been
used on many other parts to enable their use as jumpers.

Can you try this experience with some real bricks and take a photo for us?

That seems to be the trend of this thread- most folks misunderstand the variants
of these parts, from the 7 teeth to 9 teeth joints to the 1x2 bricks with axles,
and think that there is an actual functional difference.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 25, 2024 22:47
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:

  The inside supports, as on part 32064c, are critical for function. They allow
the part to be used as a jumper and on jumpers. This is not a trivial mold change!
It radically changes the functionality of the part!

Can you provide one illustration of an official LEGO model that uses this building
technique with a 32064?
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick

My knowledge of set instructions isn't comprehensive for that. I know I've
done it in my own MOCs and I know that configuration of inside supports has been
used on many other parts to enable their use as jumpers.

Can you try this experience with some real bricks and take a photo for us?

That seems to be the trend of this thread- most folks misunderstand the variants
of these parts, from the 7 teeth to 9 teeth joints to the 1x2 bricks with axles,
and think that there is an actual functional difference.


There _is_ a functional difference with
[p=32064c]
compared to the other variants of the part. That isn't fantasy or conjecture.
That is the truth.

Do exactly what Russell said to do. Try putting a 32064c on top of any 1x2 jumper
plate. Now try it with any of the other variants of the part. Let me know what
you find out.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
 Author: Yo_Yo_Flamingo View Messages Posted By Yo_Yo_Flamingo
 Posted: Jan 26, 2024 00:43
 Subject: Re: Important proposal regarding catalog variants
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:

  The inside supports, as on part 32064c, are critical for function. They allow
the part to be used as a jumper and on jumpers. This is not a trivial mold change!
It radically changes the functionality of the part!

Can you provide one illustration of an official LEGO model that uses this building
technique with a 32064?
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick

My knowledge of set instructions isn't comprehensive for that. I know I've
done it in my own MOCs and I know that configuration of inside supports has been
used on many other parts to enable their use as jumpers.

Can you try this experience with some real bricks and take a photo for us?

That seems to be the trend of this thread- most folks misunderstand the variants
of these parts, from the 7 teeth to 9 teeth joints to the 1x2 bricks with axles,
and think that there is an actual functional difference.


There _is_ a functional difference with
[p=32064c]
compared to the other variants of the part. That isn't fantasy or conjecture.
That is the truth.

Do exactly what Russell said to do. Try putting a 32064c on top of any 1x2 jumper
plate. Now try it with any of the other variants of the part. Let me know what
you find out.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Good, while I've got you here... Who do I have to talk to to replace the
imaginary piece in the inventory for this set?
 
Set No: 8744  Name: Visorak Oohnorak
* 
8744-1 (Inv) Visorak Oohnorak
47 Parts, 2005
Sets: BIONICLE: Visorak

I know I'm getting annoying here, but after several change requests, it's
unfathomable
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 26, 2024 01:22
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In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, icm writes:

  The inside supports, as on part 32064c, are critical for function. They allow
the part to be used as a jumper and on jumpers. This is not a trivial mold change!
It radically changes the functionality of the part!

Can you provide one illustration of an official LEGO model that uses this building
technique with a 32064?
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick

My knowledge of set instructions isn't comprehensive for that. I know I've
done it in my own MOCs and I know that configuration of inside supports has been
used on many other parts to enable their use as jumpers.

Can you try this experience with some real bricks and take a photo for us?

That seems to be the trend of this thread- most folks misunderstand the variants
of these parts, from the 7 teeth to 9 teeth joints to the 1x2 bricks with axles,
and think that there is an actual functional difference.


There _is_ a functional difference with
[p=32064c]
compared to the other variants of the part. That isn't fantasy or conjecture.
That is the truth.

Do exactly what Russell said to do. Try putting a 32064c on top of any 1x2 jumper
plate. Now try it with any of the other variants of the part. Let me know what
you find out.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Good, while I've got you here... Who do I have to talk to to replace the
imaginary piece in the inventory for this set?
 
Set No: 8744  Name: Visorak Oohnorak
* 
8744-1 (Inv) Visorak Oohnorak
47 Parts, 2005
Sets: BIONICLE: Visorak

I know I'm getting annoying here, but after several change requests, it's
unfathomable


The black version of that part has an element / material handling number assigned
to it from the LEGO Group (4287888). Therefore, there is a chance that the part
existed at some point somewhere, whether it appeared in a set or not. In fact,
there are a lot of parts out there that exist that never showed up in any set.

But did the part you are discussing actually ever show up in that set? Who knows?
For all we know, the parts were made to be used and then ground up when not needed
anymore. If someone has a mint copy of the set from the first production run,
I would really like to see that.

In the meantime, I have done you a solid along with the addition of a shiny new
inventory note. Happy New Year