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| | | Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 11:02 | | Subject: | Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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| | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 12:27 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Would this be the number of stages in the set (e.g. 1-18) or would it be the
literal number of bags in the box, including unnumbered bags?
One of the things that has prevented us from cataloging such information in the
past is concern that there may be multiple versions of how things are packed,
based on the factory location or production run.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Would this be the number of stages in the set (e.g. 1-18) or would it be the
literal number of bags in the box, including unnumbered bags?
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Total number would be better: imagine there’s two bags with #2, and you’re missing
one, how would you know?
Hopefully not counting baggies inside baggies 
| | One of the things that has prevented us from cataloging such information in the
past is concern that there may be multiple versions of how things are packed,
based on the factory location or production run.
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Maybe use a text field and not a number. This way info can be added if needed.
E.g. “25 bags, numbered 1 to 12, 2 of each plus one unnumbered and a floatting
baseplate.”
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | Maybe use a text field and not a number. This way info can be added if needed.
E.g. “25 bags, numbered 1 to 12, 2 of each plus one unnumbered and a floatting
baseplate.”
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Hmmm then couldn't one just use the comments field?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | Maybe use a text field and not a number. This way info can be added if needed.
E.g. “25 bags, numbered 1 to 12, 2 of each plus one unnumbered and a floatting
baseplate.”
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Hmmm then couldn't one just use the comments field?
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Someone selling an open box, sealed bags set could. But what I was wanting was
to have that information generally available in the catalog for whoever was looking
for it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:
| | Hmmm then couldn't one just use the comments field?
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Someone selling an open box, sealed bags set could. But what I was wanting was
to have that information generally available in the catalog for whoever was looking
for it.
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Ahh, sorry, what I meant was the additional notes field on the item's page
in the catalogue.
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 17:52 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Would this be the number of stages in the set (e.g. 1-18) or would it be the
literal number of bags in the box, including unnumbered bags?
One of the things that has prevented us from cataloging such information in the
past is concern that there may be multiple versions of how things are packed,
based on the factory location or production run.
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I have witnessed this situation, when parting out multiple copies, they were
organized slightly differently. Not always a different number of bags, but the
exact composition of a particular bag could vary (likely due to production considerations).
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 1, 2023 06:49 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Would this be the number of stages in the set (e.g. 1-18) or would it be the
literal number of bags in the box, including unnumbered bags?
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Total number of bags, not counting little bags inside big bags.
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One of the things that has prevented us from cataloging such information in the
past is concern that there may be multiple versions of how things are packed,
based on the factory location or production run.
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| | | | | Author: | MidwestBrick | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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1. That’s only possible for recent instructions / sets, where bags are numbered
AND shown in the instructions.
For the older sets, there’s some people who keep pics on bricksafe or similar.
Or youtube videos….
2. The question of “how many bags in such set?” comes up frequently. It would
save time to keep that info somewhere accessible an universal, like in the BL
catalogue, instead of re-doing the job every time 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 15:37 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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1. That’s only possible for recent instructions / sets, where bags are numbered
AND shown in the instructions.
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But some have multiple bags in one or two steps with the same number but the
instructions only show the step bag to use not how many.
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For the older sets, there’s some people who keep pics on bricksafe or similar.
Or youtube videos….
2. The question of “how many bags in such set?” comes up frequently. It would
save time to keep that info somewhere accessible an universal, like in the BL
catalogue, instead of re-doing the job every time
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MidwestBrick | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 16:38 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stellar writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | […]
Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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1. That’s only possible for recent instructions / sets, where bags are numbered
AND shown in the instructions.
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But some have multiple bags in one or two steps with the same number but the
instructions only show the step bag to use not how many.
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For the older sets, there’s some people who keep pics on bricksafe or similar.
Or youtube videos….
2. The question of “how many bags in such set?” comes up frequently. It would
save time to keep that info somewhere accessible an universal, like in the BL
catalogue, instead of re-doing the job every time
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I understand this isn't the golden answer, but it would at least provide
some idea of how many to expect. And if pictures are available from the auction,
certainly someone with a good sense of reading instructions and being able to
see parts in numbered bags from pictures could determine if it appears all bags
are there or not or if some are glaringly missing.
Anyway, those are the steps I would take... or pay the premium for a set that
is sealed and complete. Since it is on Ebay, I would take the assumption it
is not complete and the seller knows it.
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| | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 17:57 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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Most of the older sets did not have numbered bags. You got a bunch of clear bags
(sometimes with air perforations). Sometimes stickers were in a bag, and sometimes
loose.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 19:17 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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Most of the older sets did not have numbered bags. You got a bunch of clear bags
(sometimes with air perforations). Sometimes stickers were in a bag, and sometimes
loose.
Nita Rae
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Classic sets still aren’t numbered. Maybe Creator too? And small sets might
have two bags but no numbers.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | andrew_h | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 19:26 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | In Suggestions, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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Not sure if this works, but can't you look up the instructions on Lego and
page through to see how many bags per step there are? Are at a minimum, at least
know how many numbered steps there are?
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Most of the older sets did not have numbered bags. You got a bunch of clear bags
(sometimes with air perforations). Sometimes stickers were in a bag, and sometimes
loose.
Nita Rae
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I think there is still value in providing bag count. It's probably not realistic
to have variants based on production date and location, so, in cases where multiple
accurate bag counts exist, a number range with a disclaimer about varying bag
count could be used instead of a fixed number.
Some possible examples of value display:
"26 bags, numbered 1-26"
"4 bags, unnumbered"
"4-5 bags, unnumbered"
I was bought an old rare set as a gift and the gifter went through quite some
hoops to research bag count since the seller did not know the set well enough
to confirm it was accurate; only provide the actual bag count from the box. Having
this information documented would be helpful even if the helpfulness varies by
age of set.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2023 20:16 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | I think there is still value in providing bag count. It's probably not realistic
to have variants based on production date and location, so, in cases where multiple
accurate bag counts exist, a number range with a disclaimer about varying bag
count could be used instead of a fixed number.
Some possible examples of value display:
"26 bags, numbered 1-26"
"4 bags, unnumbered"
"4-5 bags, unnumbered"
I was bought an old rare set as a gift and the gifter went through quite some
hoops to research bag count since the seller did not know the set well enough
to confirm it was accurate; only provide the actual bag count from the box. Having
this information documented would be helpful even if the helpfulness varies by
age of set.
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Agreed, easier, more realistic, and still useful info!
About "cataloging" each bag, I'm sure another website - or rebrickable
or like - could try to get this information (ideally with a picture of each bag!),
but it'd be a HUGE implementation here and 95% of people wouldn't care.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 1, 2023 06:51 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I think there is still value in providing bag count. It's probably not realistic
to have variants based on production date and location, so, in cases where multiple
accurate bag counts exist, a number range with a disclaimer about varying bag
count could be used instead of a fixed number.
Some possible examples of value display:
"26 bags, numbered 1-26"
"4 bags, unnumbered"
"4-5 bags, unnumbered"
I was bought an old rare set as a gift and the gifter went through quite some
hoops to research bag count since the seller did not know the set well enough
to confirm it was accurate; only provide the actual bag count from the box. Having
this information documented would be helpful even if the helpfulness varies by
age of set.
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Agreed, easier, more realistic, and still useful info!
About "cataloging" each bag, I'm sure another website - or rebrickable
or like - could try to get this information (ideally with a picture of each bag!),
but it'd be a HUGE implementation here and 95% of people wouldn't care.
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Yeah, I have backed off on that. I used to want it. I'd still like it,
but I understand it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Dec 1, 2023 14:36 | | Subject: | Re: Please Add Data Point for # of Bags in Set | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | Like weight and dimensions, this would not have to be a required data point,
but one that would have a ? until entered. I often wish for this information
and I see it asked on the forum. I was just looking at an open box, sealed bags
set on eBay that I might like to buy, but the seller says how many bags there
are and notes that they don't know if that is all of them. Well, I don't
know either.
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What would be more helpful is a list of parts that are either unique to that
set, or are rare because they're not used in the colors the set uses very
often.
A big part of completing a set is to find the missing parts and minifigs, that
can take a while even on BrickLink, due to the movement of individual lots as
supply and demand work to move them in and out of store inventories.
If you're looking at a set on ebay that has sealed bags, it's better
to ask the seller for more pics of them so that you can more accurately identify
whether there are pieces or minifigs missing that will have to be purchased to
complete it.
It's a tough call to buy an incomplete set anywhere nowadays, you never know
if you'll complete the entire set until you get that last piece.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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