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| | | Author: | jadonut  | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:07 | | Subject: | Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 637 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:09 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 105 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | Yellow minifigures are classic and iconic. If lego switched it would be weird. |
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| | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:11 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Yellow minifigures are classic and iconic. If lego switched it would be weird.
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I prefer black minifigures.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:17 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Yellow minifigures are classic and iconic. If lego switched it would be weird.
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I prefer black minifigures.
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I’m more of a pink guy myself
(Not that I’ve got a whole bunch and am hoping it’s value continues increasing)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:25 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
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I’m more of a pink guy myself
(Not that I’ve got a whole bunch and am hoping it’s value continues increasing)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:34 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
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I’m more of a pink guy myself
(Not that I’ve got a whole bunch and am hoping it’s value continues increasing)
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If it was space figure themed then maybe 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
Perfection (even tho I don’t collect space )
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | pcthurman | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 07:15 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
I did this for my husband for Christmas last year.
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:21 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
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| | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
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Now that was good!  (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything  )
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 12:58 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 13:02 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Speaking of emoticons, BL may need to think about some changes. There is 1 blue,
1 light blue, 1 red and one green to choose from but but there are 8 yellow ones.
Hmmm.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | Speaking of emoticons, BL may need to think about some changes. There is 1 blue,
1 light blue, 1 red and one green to choose from but but there are 8 yellow ones.
Hmmm.
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Didn't we have meaningful exchange about "color"
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1382931
Here's a cleaned-up pic file of Skragle
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:44 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | Speaking of emoticons, BL may need to think about some changes. There is 1 blue,
1 light blue, 1 red and one green to choose from but but there are 8 yellow ones.
Hmmm.
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Didn't we have meaningful exchange about "color"
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1382931
Here's a cleaned-up pic file of Skragle
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Now that is a beautiful color!!!
Dog's are truly man's best friend.
Thanks for sharing the picture (or would that be resharing).
This one is probably the skraglest shot of him.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:49 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | Speaking of emoticons, BL may need to think about some changes. There is 1 blue,
1 light blue, 1 red and one green to choose from but but there are 8 yellow ones.
Hmmm.
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Didn't we have meaningful exchange about "color"
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1382931
Here's a cleaned-up pic file of Skragle
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Now that is a beautiful color!!!
Dog's are truly man's best friend.
Thanks for sharing the picture (or would that be resharing).
This one is probably the skraglest shot of him.
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Or maybe this one is...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 18:50 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
R.O.U.S!!!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 19:08 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | Speaking of emoticons, BL may need to think about some changes. There is 1 blue,
1 light blue, 1 red and one green to choose from but but there are 8 yellow ones.
Hmmm.
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Didn't we have meaningful exchange about "color"
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1382931
Here's a cleaned-up pic file of Skragle
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Now that is a beautiful color!!!
Dog's are truly man's best friend.
Thanks for sharing the picture (or would that be resharing).
This one is probably the skraglest shot of him.
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Or maybe this one is...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 13:12 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
|
I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
|
Now that was good! (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything )
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
|
Now that was good! (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything )
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Reminds me one of the 'instutions' of Imgur (yes, really):
https://imgur.com/user/onlyporridge
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 13:45 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
|
Now that was good! (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything )
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Reminds me one of the 'instutions' of Imgur (yes, really):
https://imgur.com/user/onlyporridge
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 22:05 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
|
Now that was good! (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything )
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Reminds me one of the 'instutions' of Imgur (yes, really):
https://imgur.com/user/onlyporridge
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Took me a minute to realize that it was an emoticon, or at least could be. BL
should add it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 22:31 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | I think that the LEGO Group also needs to include more chickens in their sets.
There are 33 billion chickens in the world, yet chickens appear in very few LEGO
sets. It would be nice to see LEGO include more ecological diversity in their
sets.
|
Now that was good! (I used a plain smiling emoticons instead of
the laughing one with oversized teeth and used 4 instead of 3 to differinacate
myself from that OTHER person here on the forums who posts always lauhing at
everything )
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Reminds me one of the 'instutions' of Imgur (yes, really):
https://imgur.com/user/onlyporridge
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Took me a minute to realize that it was an emoticon, or at least could be. BL
should add it.
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:24 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
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I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan.
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"I Love Lego"
(5 seconds earlier)
"Yellow Mini-figures are boring & Lazy"
no Fan of Lego would ever say Yellow mini-figures are Boring & Lazy
nor would a true Lego fan ever pluralize Lego with an 'S'.....
agenda driven posts like this only show the *cough* true colors of the OP writing
them.
it's not about Lego.... it's about them.
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| | | | | | | Author: | jadonut | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:30 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| I can hold both opinions at the same time : )
In LEGO products, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
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I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan.
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"I Love Lego"
(5 seconds earlier)
"Yellow Mini-figures are boring & Lazy"
no Fan of Lego would ever say Yellow mini-figures are Boring & Lazy
nor would a true Lego fan ever pluralize Lego with an 'S'.....
agenda driven posts like this only show the *cough* true colors of the OP writing
them.
it's not about Lego.... it's about them.
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| | | | | Author: | jadonut | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:29 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 100 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
Hrmm. It's clear this all just depends how much you believe in Diversity,
Equity and representation. And all the work it will take to get us to where we
need to be.
No doubt that the majority of LEGO fans are white and non-POC, who probably don't
feel there's a need for change (as evidenced by the early comments). People
want to hold onto nostalgia and may even feel threatened by change.
If LEGO is going to hold onto its message that its product is a tool for STEM
education, it will have to change its minifig designs to better represent the
kids (and parents) its intending to attract.
That's a simple fact. I feel like the ball is already moving in this direction...just
slowly. And the pressure from the AFOL community is weak. But I wanted to see
for myself here.
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:33 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
Hrmm. It's clear this all just depends how much you believe in Diversity,
Equity and representation. And all the work it will take to get us to where we
need to be.
No doubt that the majority of LEGO fans are white and non-POC, who probably don't
feel there's a need for change (as evidenced by the early comments). People
want to hold onto nostalgia and may even feel threatened by change.
If LEGO is going to hold onto its message that its product is a tool for STEM
education, it will have to change its minifig designs to better represent the
kids (and parents) its intending to attract.
That's a simple fact. I feel like the ball is already moving in this direction...just
slowly. And the pressure from the AFOL community is weak. But I wanted to see
for myself here.
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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your Profile Pic is of a Yellow Mini-Figure
you cannot even adhere to the Diversity Quota you demand of others & of Lego.
....DUH
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:42 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jadonut | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 00:54 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Having conversations about race is not racist. Am I being rude or disrespectful
to anyone? No. I’m trying to have a discussion here. People either seemed offended
or don’t want to engage honestly.
I seriously recommend reading the article I linked in the original post. That
may help provide some understanding and calm any frustration or anger you have
projected at me.
In LEGO products, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
No doubt that the majority of LEGO fans are white and non-POC, who probably don't
feel there's a need for change (as evidenced by the early comments). People
want to hold onto nostalgia and may even feel threatened by change.
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so now it's "WHITE PEOPLE" who are the problem
ok.. gotcha
as i said.. you just revealed your real agenda & true colors
Racist posts like this should not be tolerated in any aspect.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | Having conversations about race is not racist. Am I being rude or disrespectful
to anyone? No. I’m trying to have a discussion here. People either seemed offended
or don’t want to engage honestly.
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yes, you are being rude & disrespectful - answering your own question doesn't
make you right
you start a thread about how 'offended' you are regarding the skin tone
of lego figures
then claim others are 'offended' by the topic.
*facepalm
the racist part is where you blame white people.
so here's a question for you then.
why don't you want a race-neutral toy that is not politically driven?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 15:27 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| I did read the article. It was disgusting.
I come to Bricklink to enjoy my Lego hobby and to get away from the "real
world" of petty race obsessed identity politics.
I consider the whole petition thing must be satire, because I refuse to believe
that any rational adult is having serious discussions about the color of a plastic
children's toy.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Zeldafan | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 15:59 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 02:44 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | If LEGO is going to hold onto its message that its product is a tool for STEM
education, it will have to change its minifig designs to better represent the
kids (and parents) its intending to attract.
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What is the link here? The STEM type uses of LEGO rarely involves minifigures.
| | | | I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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Would it be OK to have a City set with a black cop and a white crook? Would it
be OK to have a City set with a white cop and a black crook? No matter what else
they produced, if they did the latter set then there would be posts all over
social media focusing on just that set saying that LEGO is producing racist stereotype
figures.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | CLBoyce | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 08:50 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | Very good point. |
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| | | | | | | Author: | legomalego | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| DEI is destroying society.
Yes, I said it.
Block me/cancel me if it will make you feel better.
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
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Hrmm. It's clear this all just depends how much you believe in Diversity,
Equity and representation. And all the work it will take to get us to where we
need to be.
No doubt that the majority of LEGO fans are white and non-POC, who probably don't
feel there's a need for change (as evidenced by the early comments). People
want to hold onto nostalgia and may even feel threatened by change.
If LEGO is going to hold onto its message that its product is a tool for STEM
education, it will have to change its minifig designs to better represent the
kids (and parents) its intending to attract.
That's a simple fact. I feel like the ball is already moving in this direction...just
slowly. And the pressure from the AFOL community is weak. But I wanted to see
for myself here.
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 12:50 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, legomalego writes:
| | DEI is destroying society.
Yes, I said it.
Block me/cancel me if it will make you feel better.
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An opinion far from being in the minority. Your position is what I would posture
as that of what the majority would intuitively think and feel, without saying
it for obvious and frivolous reasons...
Anyone that would “block or cancel” you for an opinion, is doing you a favor
by voluntarily removing themself from the sphere of influence your expressed
ideas are having. Keep that in mind
Put more directly: any so inclined (fortunately for humanity) by nature is small-minded
and is generally incapable of strong arguments for what is ideology absorbed,
and not original ideas from independent thought. Independent thought, the
entire worth from the human condition, imho.
-Cory
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, legomalego writes:
| | DEI is destroying society.
Yes, I said it.
Block me/cancel me if it will make you feel better.
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An opinion far from being in the minority. Your position is what I would posture
as that of what the majority would intuitively think and feel, without saying
it for obvious and frivolous reasons...
Anyone that would “block or cancel” you for an opinion, is doing you a favor
by voluntarily removing themself from the sphere of influence your expressed
ideas are having. Keep that in mind
Put more directly: any so inclined (fortunately for humanity) by nature is small-minded
and is generally incapable of strong arguments for what is ideology absorbed,
and not original ideas from independent thought. Independent thought, the
entire worth from the human condition, imho.
-Cory
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Bricklink Cancelled my comment earlier.......................
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, legomalego writes:
| | DEI is destroying society.
Yes, I said it.
Block me/cancel me if it will make you feel better.
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An opinion far from being in the minority. Your position is what I would posture
as that of what the majority would intuitively think and feel, without saying
it for obvious and frivolous reasons...
Anyone that would “block or cancel” you for an opinion, is doing you a favor
by voluntarily removing themself from the sphere of influence your expressed
ideas are having. Keep that in mind
Put more directly: any so inclined (fortunately for humanity) by nature is small-minded
and is generally incapable of strong arguments for what is ideology absorbed,
and not original ideas from independent thought. Independent thought, the
entire worth from the human condition, imho.
-Cory
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Bricklink Cancelled my comment earlier...
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Undoubtedly having touched the third rail "white people"
Which in popular-culture doctrine is not to be invoked unless doing so attacking
the race itself
Don't blame the moderators here though, their mission is to keep it all benign.
To eliminate that which provokes, especially with thought outside of anything
that is currently accepted within popular culture, whether they personally ascribe
to it or not.
We are in that battle for individual thought and the ability to freely distributed
ideas. Continue with yours as an individual while understanding the motivations
of others in this.
-Cory
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 15:16 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In LEGO products, popsicle writes:
| | In LEGO products, legomalego writes:
| | DEI is destroying society.
Yes, I said it.
Block me/cancel me if it will make you feel better.
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An opinion far from being in the minority. Your position is what I would posture
as that of what the majority would intuitively think and feel, without saying
it for obvious and frivolous reasons...
Anyone that would “block or cancel” you for an opinion, is doing you a favor
by voluntarily removing themself from the sphere of influence your expressed
ideas are having. Keep that in mind
Put more directly: any so inclined (fortunately for humanity) by nature is small-minded
and is generally incapable of strong arguments for what is ideology absorbed,
and not original ideas from independent thought. Independent thought, the
entire worth from the human condition, imho.
-Cory
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Bricklink Cancelled my comment earlier...
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Undoubtedly having touched the third rail "white people"
Which in popular-culture doctrine is not to be invoked unless doing so attacking
the race itself
Don't blame the moderators here though, their mission is to keep it all benign.
To eliminate that which provokes, especially with thought outside of anything
that is currently accepted within popular culture, whether they personally ascribe
to it or not.
We are in that battle for individual thought and the ability to freely distributed
ideas. Continue with yours as an individual while understanding the motivations
of others in this.
-Cory
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that was a response to the OP's comment stating the exact same phrasing.
Author: jadonut View Messages Posted By jadonut
Posted: Nov 17, 2023 00:29
which was not Cancelled...
selective editing is in play
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| | | | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 15:22 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | Yes, you proved it for yourself. All of us who disagree with you are "racists." |
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 02:29 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
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I'm light skinned and I don't feel yellow represents me. That is why
I use the more realistic flesh tones instead when I want to represent me.
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| | | | | Author: | HC | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 05:31 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| I almost choke in my breakfast reading this.
whats next?
cancel yellow cars [what about yellow stone park?]
no white bread anymore
no black friday's
no Indian summers
come on..lego is just a toy to create a fantasy world...
lets keep out race/idiology and politics out...this is already a problem in the
real world
and skin colour?...I think there are more then 1000 different skin tones
the only way then would be PURPLE legofigures...then everybody will be pleased
lets hope no aliens land with purple skin colour...or we have this problem again
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | | | Author: | CLBoyce | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 08:52 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | Couldn't have said it better myself, thank you |
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| | | | | | | Author: | V_JAMS | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 09:30 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| It's just more race baiting from "tolerant" people. Their aren't
races anyways. Just people groups. I have never raised my kids to look at someone
as marginalized or oppressed as all of these "DEI" folks. Just stoking
more anger with people and then saying you are showing them anger...... just
sad to live like this each day.
In LEGO products, HC writes:
| | I almost choke in my breakfast reading this.
whats next?
cancel yellow cars [what about yellow stone park?]
no white bread anymore
no black friday's
no Indian summers
come on..lego is just a toy to create a fantasy world...
lets keep out race/idiology and politics out...this is already a problem in the
real world
and skin colour?...I think there are more then 1000 different skin tones
the only way then would be PURPLE legofigures...then everybody will be pleased
lets hope no aliens land with purple skin colour...or we have this problem again
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 10:55 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, V_JAMS writes:
| | It's just more race baiting from "tolerant" people. Their aren't
races anyways. Just people groups. I have never raised my kids to look at someone
as marginalized or oppressed as all of these "DEI" folks. Just stoking
more anger with people and then saying you are showing them anger...... just
sad to live like this each day.
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the fun part is letting them explain how Russians aren't 'Asian'
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 05:37 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| This set could be an experiment. It isn't TOWN, but it also isn't depicting
movie characters.
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 06:17 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I don't feel frustrated or confussed regarding yellow minifigure heads.
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 10:28 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
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I actually thought counterexamples would be easy to find and I was surprised.
There are a lot of town-looking minifigs with other skin tones, but even though
they aren't main characters they are from sets based on movies.
I am old enough to remember there were brown minifigs alongside yellow before
any of the modern skin colors were produced, but I see it was all or almost all
for movies. Just when those were still yellow also. Which undercuts the idea
that yellow is neutral. It wasn't neutral when Luke Skywalker was yellow,
but Lando needed to be brown. At the same time, the classic grin represented
both boys and girls until Pirates and Paradise.
It is a weird spot. LEGO has a classic thing that is part of a lot of childhoods
and they want to continue with that tradition and maybe they are a little stuck
in a blind spot? LEGO certainly cannot be described as a company that is ignoring
diversity. They just added 2 new skin tones this year. There are children,
middle age, and elderly. Wheelchairs, hearing aids, and a minidoll missing a
hand. They've cranked out a lot of coiled hair pieces in the last few years
and there is a minifig head and a minidoll head with vitiligo. They are definitely
making big inclusive efforts.
I am accustomed and endeared to the yellow minifig. I would miss them if they
disappeared, but I can see that it is at LEAST confusing. It is true that yellow
is on the light end of the color palette and I am speaking as a white person,
but I don't look yellow. They don't REALLY look like me. As far as
I know, LEGO has never explicitly explained it. They've just left it inferable
that the the yellow minifig lives in a world where everyone is yellow. I think
LEGO could make the case that yellow minifigs are not white. They are everyone.
But they really ought to make the case out loud.
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| | | | | | | Author: | psusaxman2000 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, axaday writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
|
I actually thought counterexamples would be easy to find and I was surprised.
There are a lot of town-looking minifigs with other skin tones, but even though
they aren't main characters they are from sets based on movies.
I am old enough to remember there were brown minifigs alongside yellow before
any of the modern skin colors were produced, but I see it was all or almost all
for movies. Just when those were still yellow also. Which undercuts the idea
that yellow is neutral. It wasn't neutral when Luke Skywalker was yellow,
but Lando needed to be brown. At the same time, the classic grin represented
both boys and girls until Pirates and Paradise.
It is a weird spot. LEGO has a classic thing that is part of a lot of childhoods
and they want to continue with that tradition and maybe they are a little stuck
in a blind spot? LEGO certainly cannot be described as a company that is ignoring
diversity. They just added 2 new skin tones this year. There are children,
middle age, and elderly. Wheelchairs, hearing aids, and a minidoll missing a
hand. They've cranked out a lot of coiled hair pieces in the last few years
and there is a minifig head and a minidoll head with vitiligo. They are definitely
making big inclusive efforts.
I am accustomed and endeared to the yellow minifig. I would miss them if they
disappeared, but I can see that it is at LEAST confusing. It is true that yellow
is on the light end of the color palette and I am speaking as a white person,
but I don't look yellow. They don't REALLY look like me. As far as
I know, LEGO has never explicitly explained it. They've just left it inferable
that the the yellow minifig lives in a world where everyone is yellow. I think
LEGO could make the case that yellow minifigs are not white. They are everyone.
But they really ought to make the case out loud.
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But if the City set all stay the same and everyone in the Lego-sphere is alike,
similar where race and color of your skin doesn't matter, doesn't that
mean that they are being all inclusive?
In my mind, the inclusion and use of skin tone in minifigs is to be more specific
of the individual that they are trying to represent in the specific sets. Think
Star Wars where there used to be yellow minifigs and then transitioned to be
skin tone to better match the character. This is different where you have non-specific
sets like the foosball table or sets that are not representative of specific
individuals. There I think Lego is actually being as inclusive as they can be.
IMO the City sets are classic/traditional that still represent the Lego world
where we all live together IN THEIR SPACE and this is not meant to be a consideration.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:20 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | I am old enough to remember there were brown minifigs alongside yellow before
any of the modern skin colors were produced, but I see it was all or almost all
for movies. Just when those were still yellow also. Which undercuts the idea
that yellow is neutral. It wasn't neutral when Luke Skywalker was yellow,
but Lando needed to be brown.
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That is why they soon changed Luke to be light nougat (or light flesh as it would
have been called on bricklink back then). Wasn't the first Lando (and Bib
Fortuna) in something like 2003 and then the first fleshie Luke in 2004. Switching
that fast is really quite quick.
I guess that they had intended to use yellow skin figures for all humans just
like they had done in unlicensed themes without really planning what might happen
in future. And then when they actually came to do a character with brown skin,
either they or Lucasfilm did not like the yellow. At which point they rushed
out Lando then switched the other characters from yellow to light nougat the
following year as soon as they could.
And of course a similar thing happened with the basketball players in 2003/4.
To me, Luke Skywalker (and Harry Potter) with yellow skin does not look right,
just like Lando doesn't look right with yellow skin. It is not just that
yellow doesn't represent brown people very well, it doesn't represent
white people very well either and is especially bad if put next to other minifigures
with more realistic skin tones. If they had thought a little more when starting
the original licensed themes it would not have been an issue. They might say
that yellow doesn't represent a specific race but to me it doesn't represent
any (real) race, it just represents LEGO people. And that is fine if you want
a world of yellow people. Whereas as soon as you introduce another colour to
more accurately depict some real people, the yellow becomes pointless and you
need a more accurate colour to represent other people too. There was just a hangover
of a year or so while LEGO figured that out. The real issue is that these days
people want to depict themselves or others like them rather than have generic
minifigures that represent no real race.
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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But they really ought to make the case out loud.
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Please explain why? What help does that provide? Will the world be a better place
than it was before they explain it? Or will it disturb the world even more into
pro's and con's instead of emphasizing we are all and the same.... ALL
figs where yellow when the figs came into this world when the where introduced.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 08:32 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, StarBrick writes:
| | In LEGO products, axaday writes:
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But they really ought to make the case out loud.
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Please explain why? What help does that provide? Will the world be a better place
than it was before they explain it? Or will it disturb the world even more into
pro's and con's instead of emphasizing we are all and the same.... ALL
figs where yellow when the figs came into this world when the where introduced.
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As we've been shown, they have been publicly accused that yellow minifigs
are white people, not race neutral. Many of the arguments presented can be explained
as past mistakes that will not be repeated. But leaving the public to infer
what you hope is a weak position. As it currently stands, many will read the
petition and think LEGO is just stubbornly ignoring it. It would be much stronger
to come out publicly and admit that mistakes were made in the past, but that
they are committed now and going forward to presenting racial diversity in many
lines, but keeping the classic lines in an neutral world.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 09:59 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, axaday writes:
| | In LEGO products, StarBrick writes:
| | In LEGO products, axaday writes:
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But they really ought to make the case out loud.
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Please explain why? What help does that provide? Will the world be a better place
than it was before they explain it? Or will it disturb the world even more into
pro's and con's instead of emphasizing we are all and the same.... ALL
figs where yellow when the figs came into this world when the where introduced.
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As we've been shown, they have been publicly accused that yellow minifigs
are white people, not race neutral. Many of the arguments presented can be explained
as past mistakes that will not be repeated. But leaving the public to infer
what you hope is a weak position. As it currently stands, many will read the
petition and think LEGO is just stubbornly ignoring it. It would be much stronger
to come out publicly and admit that mistakes were made in the past, but that
they are committed now and going forward to presenting racial diversity in many
lines, but keeping the classic lines in an neutral world.
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what you are suggesting is that Lego admit they did something that was Racist.
when they didn't
as the OP stated.. it's about Pressure
there was no 'mistakes'
Lego People are People, some have yellow skin, some have Trans Neon skin, some
don't even have a face.
there are already 'white' skinned lego people, mainly they are Zombies,
Skeletons & Ghosts...
so actually, i might agree.. there should be more diversity in the 'white'
Lego People.
representing 'White' Lego people as Skeletons, Ghosts & Zombies is not
representing 'white' Lego people properly & is kinda degrading towards
the vast genre that Lego people should be geared towards.
also, just for context, Nougat is not a race... it's a Confection.
just sayin'
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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To better understand one’s own position in this, I recommend additional reading
about what’s known of the characteristics of colors as they influence on us;
Color Psychology, iow.
Colors impact our mood far more than I’d say most of us are aware. From positive
feelings of wellbeing (elation, happiness, awe, calm, amusement, etc) through
to the more negative end of our emotional spectrum.
Personally, I've always liked the color yellow, it’s bright and cheerful.
But never felt so as applied to all things. It’s very nice for example in the
fabric of a woman’s summer dress, or maybe on a convertible car, but yellow representing
a skin tone has never worked for me.
I remember when TLG first introduced the “flesh” colored head (simplistic expression
of a smile) to the standard minifigure, and thinking at the time that it was
a smart and progressive move on the part of TLG. I liked it. Reverting now would
be the antithesis of progressive, nor would it be smart imho.
I've enjoyed all the various skin colors LEGO has since been using. In short,
use more not less
-Cory
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| | | | | Author: | rab1234 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:29 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| For what it's worth, I believe Lego has responded, if not publicly, at least
to me in response to a letter that I wrote around 1987.
Of course I don't remember the exact quotes, but it was to the effect of
"yellow is not specific and is meant to represent all races".
Just speaking as a non-POC, I must have at least felt as a young kid that yellow
represented white people as I remember resorting to using plain black heads to
represent black figures. They were extremely rare before appearing more commonly
after around 1994. I don't know if kids would feel the same way now since
there are a variety of skin tones available in other themes (including colors
to represent white people).
So anyway, this has been a question since the inception of the Lego mini-figure
(or at least since I asked them 35 years ago).
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | So anyway, this has been a question since the inception of the Lego mini-figure
(or at least since I asked them 35 years ago).
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It goes back even further to the maxi-figs of Building Set with People and Homemaker
themes. And one rather unfortunate incident (at least through modern eyes) when
it came to one set.
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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i'll just set this right here,
https://blog.firestartoys.com/lego-minifigure-skin-colors-how-many-are-there/
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| | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:16 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
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Its offical kids, I'm now old and I don't understand what you are going
on about. Get my cane.
Seriously tho, getting this worked up over...this...is cringe. I'm sorry.
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I like the non-licensed themes as yellow, but I think there is always a niche
in the lego system for additional products.
It looks like lego friends kind of does what you're proposing.
Maybe there is a niche market for a theme that is similar to CITY, has minifigures
(not minidolls), but the skin tones of licensed themes or friends.
But I think testing that theme out in parallel to the existing themes is a far
better business approach than the lazier, less thought out, unnecessarily arbitrary
idea of "let's scrap all yellow figures because there can be only
one way".
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| | | | | Author: | Zeldafan | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 14:40 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 15:46 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 16:02 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Fr0stByt3 writes:
| | This thread is super spicy, haha.
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indeed
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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It's a soooo complex problem...
Nowadays, nobody can't decently deny that old LEGO packaging, catalogs and
comms pushing Boys to build cars, public works machinery, being in space, reign
on castles, driving boats, having tools, weapons etc - while girls could decide
their lipstick color, match their bag and decorate home with flowers, or ride
a poney... haven't promoted a quite equal social opportunity to both 
There's been some actual progresses, even some fine and spectacular ones.
Still, and mainly, Friends is for Girls and Technic for Boys - just see the box
main colors.
In short, while I'd prefer ALL Minifigures to be of a SINGLE Purple or Green
color for instance (see the Smurfs?) - yes, if there's no neutral color then
some diversity is fine and brings identification choices to everyone.
Now we've also to revise all Minifigure pictures being right-handed*, but
there's more important subjects
*ah, apart this one maybe:
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| | | | | | | Author: | Give.Me.A.Brick | | Posted: | Nov 18, 2023 05:44 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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It's a soooo complex problem...
Nowadays, nobody can't decently deny that old LEGO packaging, catalogs and
comms pushing Boys to build cars, public works machinery, being in space, reign
on castles, driving boats, having tools, weapons etc - while girls could decide
their lipstick color, match their bag and decorate home with flowers, or ride
a poney... haven't promoted a quite equal social opportunity to both
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There's a documentary made in Norway, arguably the country with more equal
social opportunities, that shows that when you can freely choose your job/career
(all things equal, without thinking too much on the paycheck), women tend to
choose jobs with a social component (children, school, human resources) and men
tend to choose jobs with a more focus/mind component (tech, engineering, IT)
Women need more social interaction and men don't mind working all alone.
Of course there are always exceptions. But there is nothing wrong with women
wanting different things than men.
Ideally, each person should be able to choose the job with what they feel happiest
with, stereotypes aside.
| | There's been some actual progresses, even some fine and spectacular ones.
Still, and mainly, Friends is for Girls and Technic for Boys - just see the box
main colors.
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I see it differently. LEGO makes sets to appeal to all kids. Some kids prefer
Friends and some kids prefer Technic. In a better world they should be free to
choose by themselves.
What is really wrong is when a girl chooses Technic and her parent tells her
that it is wrong and that she should choose Friends instead (true and sad story).
Or a boy choosing Friends and so on.
Let the children play with what they want, please!
As for the topic at hand, I don't have a clear stance on it. Or maybe I have
contradictory stances on it But whatever makes a better, more just world I'm
all for it.
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| | | | | Author: | BrickDeals | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I was going to write a few paragraphs, but I will instead say that admins should
lock troll threads that seek to divide the community.
@AdminRussel
Discussion forum rules:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
8. No religious or political discussions.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 21:26 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, BrickDeals writes:
| | In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
|
I was going to write a few paragraphs, but I will instead say that admins should
lock troll threads that seek to divide the community.
@AdminRussel
Discussion forum rules:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=126
8. No religious or political discussions.
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+1 As a tired old man trying to respect both sides of my Generation. I wish they
would all just go away. Its Bloody LEGO. PLAY WELL or Be Quiet!
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 21:45 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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IMHO there's nothing political here - apart if you consider any subject can
be political - which can often, always (?) be the case, but then every post should
be moderated.
OP talks about the colors of the Minifigures and is LEGO fan.
This is 100% BrickLink forum raison d'être, sorry for my French.
I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets [...]
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
One simple KISS way is to see it like this:
We started with Black, White, Blue, Red, Yellow Bricks.
Then we had more and more colors - up until the recent Tans, Nougat.. simply
hundred+ of colors!
Is it better now regarding the bricks colors? I'm sure you'll agree!
I guess it's (will be) the same about minifigures; more choice, more creativity,
more representations of the real world, more escape also.
Ah - and more work for Catalog people, LOL
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 22:05 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | Ah - and more work for Catalog people, LOL
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Bring. It. On.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 23:06 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, randyf writes:
| | In LEGO products, 1001bricks writes:
| | Ah - and more work for Catalog people, LOL
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Bring. It. On.
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Known as git'er done - For those unfamiliar with the concept
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Zeldafan | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 22:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 23:07 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 119 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Zeldafan writes:
| | | | Agreed. I'm usually not a fan of censorship, freedom of speech y'all.
But jadonuts post definitely constitutes a deletion, because it directly violates
forum rule No.8 in being a political topic. And also because it is extremely
controversial and a troll.
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It also violates rules No.2 and No.4 in including unfounded statements, and
links to offensive content.
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Boy! You seem fun Betcha get a lot of party invites
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| | | | | Author: | Nathan123 | | Posted: | Nov 17, 2023 22:33 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| Why not just load up on varying skintones from the secondary market or from Pick
a brick? You can have what you want without removing the racial neutrality of
yellow figures.
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | Author: | Captain_Q | | Posted: | Nov 18, 2023 04:22 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
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It turns out, Lego is health conscience in that people with yellow skin have
jaundice and if your skin and or eyes matches a Lego figure  then it's
time to go to the doctor!
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/jaundice/
Jaundice is when your skin or the whites of your eyes turn yellow. It can be
a sign of something serious, such as liver disease, so you need to get urgent
medical help.
Lego was kind enough to create jaundice indicator test for 50+ years now!
Now of course the world is diverse with numerous different races, so the best
way to test for this is by checking your eyes. If your eyes are the same color
as a Lego figure, it's time to go to the doctor!
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as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
The only people that can truly relate to yellow skin are those with jaundice
and the Simpsons. Thus I suspect the OP is not really a fan of Lego, but really
just an employee of Mega Block trying create drama.
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| | | | | Author: | philip33 | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 19:17 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | Get over it and grow up |
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| | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Nov 19, 2023 23:36 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| I'll take race baiting for 200 Alex...
In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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| | | | | Author: | artscraftschest | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2024 08:16 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
[...]
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
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I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan.
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I hear you. A few years ago (when first introducing my son to Duplo) I was keen
to introduce some POC minifigs so that he could see his friends represented there.
I tracked down the World People set through a specialist retailer, but I remember
being shocked at the price. At the time, I was purchasing a lot of sets second-hand
on eBay, and it was hard to find (older) affordable sets that had inclusive characters.
To be fair - looking back now, the cost was actually in line with what you'd
spend on a LEGO Minifig Series box today, I just didn't know that at the
time.
That said, I DO feel that Lego is making strides in this area. The inclusion
of new facial features, hearing aids, new wigs, etc. are all exciting to me.
What I would love to see next is the option to recolour minifig parts on Pick
a Brick. For example, in a perfect world, I'd be able to gift my son a light-coloured
minifig head with a hearing aid for £0.23 + PP. At the moment, I don't think
I am able to do this unless I go to a specialist 3rd-party recolouring site
(someone correct me if I am wrong).
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| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2024 12:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | | | Author: | Thundershot | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:04 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I absolutely disagree.. the yellow is classic and nostalgic and, in my mind,
my Lego characters I make have no issues with racism because everyone is the
same color. It’s a non-issue. So I hope they leave it as it is and reserve the
flesh tones to other IP sets.
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:18 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, jadonut writes:
| | I wanted to post here to see how many other LEGO fans have felt similar frustration
and confusion about LEGO's own cultural stance to printing yellow only minifigures
for their non-IP sets (ICONS, City, Winter sets etc, etc).
For those of you who are already on-board with this, I'll link a great article
I found that excellently argues this point and cites its sources:
https://womensbrickinitiative.com/diverse-lego-minifigure-petition/
For those fans who haven't put much thought into this or are opposed to diversifying
the LEGO minifigure population, I'd urge you to read the above article. It's
well-written and researched, and says everything that needs to be said on this
topic.
In short, I don't at all agree with LEGO's staunch position on "yellow"
washing its minifigs that don't represent a certain IP. Their argument (as
quoted in the above article) that yellow is "race-neutral" is insulting,
as only light-skinned people can truly relate to that tone of color.
I'm personally interested in buying my first modular sets, but I also know
that I will have to spend money to swap out the heads, arms and some torsos to
make it representative of the world I live in, and the people I know.
I strongly believe that LEGO needs to do better, swallow its pride and discontinue
yellow minifigures. They're boring and lazy anyway.
I love LEGO and will be a lifelong fan. I just wish the brand matured with the
times quicker, and embraced cultural diversity.
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I agree; yellow figures make me frustrated.
Right now, all of my yellow minifigs are at
being treated for jaundice. I've found that prolonged exposure to ultraviolet
radiation can be effectively used to treat jaundice in LEGO® minifigures. I'm
currently investigating whether UVA or UVB works better.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:21 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | | currently investigating whether UVA or UVB works better.
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UVC made a massive leap in progress
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:33 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
UBI has been in the news more
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:38 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | UBI has been in the news more
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Wow, I didn't know there was a Canadian SSR!
Better than UTI, I guess.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 10, 2024 22:42 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| In LEGO products, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In LEGO products, Nubs_Select writes:
| | UBI has been in the news more
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Wow, I didn't know there was a Canadian SSR!
Better than UTI, I guess.
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and better than being in an SRO (not the political thing)
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| | | | | Author: | steelwoolghandi | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2024 00:21 | | Subject: | Re: Frustration w/ Yellow Minifigures | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | LEGO products | |
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| | I identify as Lego Yellow, are you not tolerant of my Identity? For shame! |
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