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| | | Author: | stickbug29  | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 13:29 | | Subject: | Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 171 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
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| | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 14:14 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
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I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 16:40 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
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I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
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You have no idea how much work this entire reorganization would take. I can tell
you that it is an absolutely monumental task for a small admin team that can
barely keep up with the new stuff the LEGO Group releases every month. In other
words, the chances of this happening are very small.
You can search by cobranded items though.
For Marvel minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=283&v=1
For DC minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=247&v=1
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
|
I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
|
You have no idea how much work this entire reorganization would take. I can tell
you that it is an absolutely monumental task for a small admin team that can
barely keep up with the new stuff the LEGO Group releases every month. In other
words, the chances of this happening are very small.
You can search by cobranded items though.
For Marvel minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=283&v=1
For DC minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=247&v=1
Cheers,
Randy
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I have some idea, I work as a database administrator for a living. It would
be a huge undertaking and I would volunteer services if I could, I've already
got the time to make a massive rebranding spreadsheet just for my own use. I've
looked at the cobranding, the only issue is that it does not work in store searches
and does not transfer to other database websites. I agree that the chances are
small, but they grow smaller with each passing year as more and more Marvel/DC
minifigures get merged under one roof.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 17:08 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
|
I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
|
You have no idea how much work this entire reorganization would take. I can tell
you that it is an absolutely monumental task for a small admin team that can
barely keep up with the new stuff the LEGO Group releases every month. In other
words, the chances of this happening are very small.
You can search by cobranded items though.
For Marvel minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=283&v=1
For DC minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=247&v=1
Cheers,
Randy
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I have some idea, I work as a database administrator for a living. It would
be a huge undertaking and I would volunteer services if I could, I've already
got the time to make a massive rebranding spreadsheet just for my own use. I've
looked at the cobranding, the only issue is that it does not work in store searches
and does not transfer to other database websites. I agree that the chances are
small, but they grow smaller with each passing year as more and more Marvel/DC
minifigures get merged under one roof.
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Can you not use that cobranding list to create a wanted list, and use that when
browsing stores?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
|
I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
|
You have no idea how much work this entire reorganization would take. I can tell
you that it is an absolutely monumental task for a small admin team that can
barely keep up with the new stuff the LEGO Group releases every month. In other
words, the chances of this happening are very small.
You can search by cobranded items though.
For Marvel minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=283&v=1
For DC minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=247&v=1
Cheers,
Randy
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I have some idea, I work as a database administrator for a living. It would
be a huge undertaking and I would volunteer services if I could, I've already
got the time to make a massive rebranding spreadsheet just for my own use. I've
looked at the cobranding, the only issue is that it does not work in store searches
and does not transfer to other database websites. I agree that the chances are
small, but they grow smaller with each passing year as more and more Marvel/DC
minifigures get merged under one roof.
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This is a task that would have to be completed by the four-member catalog admin
team. It is unfortunately not something that the community can help with. Like
I said, our workloads are _huge_ already, and we have trouble getting time to
do little projects, let alone something this enormous.
These themes have existed for over half of the lifetime of BrickLink (12+ years).
It would have been nice if this had been started from the beginning, but it wasn't.
Something like this is just not going to happen any time soon or ever with things
as they currently are.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 17:27 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
|
I am very doubtful that this will happen, but it would be more likely to happen
if they could keep the same numbers and then count up from there. I mean sh031
becoming mvl031 and leaving the gaps. That way stores and things that may have
labeled things will just having to remember that sh may have changed to dc or
mvl.
|
I'm doubtful too, but if there was ever a time to change it it would be now.
The more years go by, the more difficult things will be to update. Makes a
number of things difficult having the minifigures listed under one theme while
the sets are listed under two. Just changing the letters and leaving the numbers
as you suggested would leave big gaps but would also work.
I dream of a slow transition where the minifigures have two alternate ID's
for a while, as some bricks have, and we slowly wean off the old shared ID's.
|
You have no idea how much work this entire reorganization would take. I can tell
you that it is an absolutely monumental task for a small admin team that can
barely keep up with the new stuff the LEGO Group releases every month. In other
words, the chances of this happening are very small.
You can search by cobranded items though.
For Marvel minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=283&v=1
For DC minifigures (choose "Minifigures" in the dropdown):
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&promoCatID=247&v=1
Cheers,
Randy
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I have some idea, I work as a database administrator for a living. It would
be a huge undertaking and I would volunteer services if I could, I've already
got the time to make a massive rebranding spreadsheet just for my own use. I've
looked at the cobranding, the only issue is that it does not work in store searches
and does not transfer to other database websites. I agree that the chances are
small, but they grow smaller with each passing year as more and more Marvel/DC
minifigures get merged under one roof.
|
This is a task that would have to be completed by the four-member catalog admin
team. It is unfortunately not something that the community can help with. Like
I said, our workloads are _huge_ already, and we have trouble getting time to
do little projects, let alone something this enormous.
These themes have existed for over half of the lifetime of BrickLink (12+ years).
It would have been nice if this had been started from the beginning, but it wasn't.
Something like this is just not going to happen any time soon or ever with things
as they currently are.
Cheers,
Randy
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Oof, four is a small team! You can close this thread (unless there is a way
for me to do that), just pitching my personal use numbers out there.
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| | | | | Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 14:43 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
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Although this is a massive undertaking, and like axaday mentioned, it might be
easier if they introduce gaps to split it - I agree on the idea. I'm unsure
how the catalogue discussion went when the DC and Spider-Man figures preceded
the Super Heroes line, and the decision to merge into it. I assume there was
some kind of "standard" made for the catalogue when this started.
According to the wiki, Super Heroes also included Pixar's The Incredibles,
but the figures are in their own dedicated line, and not even under the generic
Disney one. What would have caused this to split completely from any of the other
catalogue sections? Or perhaps the wiki is incorrect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Super_Heroes
Super Heroes was a type of branding used on sets that usually said MARVEL SUPER
HEROES or DC SUPER HEROES. But more recent sets usually only say MARVEL or DC
and perhaps the movie/franchise. For example:
This theme is not part of the "Super Heroes" branding, but the figures
are put into the "sh" fig category, like all other Batman figs. I believe
LEGO still refers to Marvel and DC as Super Heroes lines internally, but from
the catalogue perspective, I agree it would help keep them more distinct.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 06:03 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Emporiosa writes:
| | According to the wiki, Super Heroes also included Pixar's The Incredibles,
but the figures are in their own dedicated line, and not even under the generic
Disney one. What would have caused this to split completely from any of the other
catalogue sections? Or perhaps the wiki is incorrect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Super_Heroes
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The wiki is incorrect. Look at the packaging. The 3 sets are Juniors Sets.
Down in the corner they say Disney Pixar in little font and Incredibles 2 in
large font. The polybag that came out a little later doesn't say Juniors.
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I think just putting in a couple subcategory is the most result from the least
amount of work and it would be worthwhile. But listen to Randy on this. They
are struggling to get new minifigs and sets approved and inventoried right now.
The job of making 2 subcategories and sorting out the minifigs does technically
get bigger with each passing month, but that growth rate is manageable. It won't
be way harder later.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 09:39 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I think just putting in a couple subcategory is the most result from the least
amount of work and it would be worthwhile. But listen to Randy on this. They
are struggling to get new minifigs and sets approved and inventoried right now.
The job of making 2 subcategories and sorting out the minifigs does technically
get bigger with each passing month, but that growth rate is manageable. It won't
be way harder later.
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100% agree - I'd say a lot of these posts aren't about bringing more
work onto a very small team, but to make BrickLink aware of the requested features/updates
etc... and to allow them to staff accordingly should they feel some of these
things are important enough for their business. It's not feasible how it
is right now.
I'm not holding my breath of course as I know there are even seller tools
(and other features) that were promised well before my time on the platform 
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| From the opposite perspective I couldn’t tell the difference between dc and marvel
so using a generic term like super hero’s can be helpful
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| | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:20 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Nubs_Select writes:
| | From the opposite perspective I couldn’t tell the difference between dc and marvel
so using a generic term like super hero’s can be helpful
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Maybe, but Marvel and DC are two entirely different (and competing) companies.
I'm not versed in cave themes, and couldn't tell you the difference
between Rock Raiders/Power Miners minifigures, but I know that merging them all
into one category would create complications for those that do.
There would be confusion at first, but the earlier the change can be made the
easier it will be to adjust. Who knows how long Super-Heroes sets will be in
production.
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:01 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Rather than messing around with an established numbering system, I'd prefer
to see two directories inserted into the super-heroes minifig (and sets) categories.
That way, they can be searched individually.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | Rather than messing around with an established numbering system, I'd prefer
to see two directories inserted into the super-heroes minifig (and sets) categories.
That way, they can be searched individually.
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Indeed. IDs shouldn’t carry too much info. It should be in categories if possible
(or tags…).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:25 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | Rather than messing around with an established numbering system, I'd prefer
to see two directories inserted into the super-heroes minifig (and sets) categories.
That way, they can be searched individually.
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Indeed. IDs shouldn’t carry too much info. It should be in categories if possible
(or tags…).
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Whichever the fix, it would be great to be able to search only Marvel/DC in a
seller's store, or search only Marvel/DC on sites like Brickset. The
ID's don't carry much info but they are how the minifigures are divided
on inventory sites, and those sites pull from Bricklink.
Currently, you can search Marvel Superheroes sets on Brickset but not Marvel
Superheroes minifigures. There is a Marvel and DC tag, but those tags are not
always updated and contain minifigures from old themes.
BayMax, for instance, has the Marvel tag but is rightfully included in the Disney
theme.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:52 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
| | Rather than messing around with an established numbering system, I'd prefer
to see two directories inserted into the super-heroes minifig (and sets) categories.
That way, they can be searched individually.
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Indeed. IDs shouldn’t carry too much info. It should be in categories if possible
(or tags…).
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Whichever the fix, it would be great to be able to search only Marvel/DC in a
seller's store, or search only Marvel/DC on sites like Brickset. The
ID's don't carry much info but they are how the minifigures are divided
on inventory sites, and those sites pull from Bricklink.
Currently, you can search Marvel Superheroes sets on Brickset but not Marvel
Superheroes minifigures. There is a Marvel and DC tag, but those tags are not
always updated and contain minifigures from old themes.
BayMax, for instance, has the Marvel tag but is rightfully included in the Disney
theme.
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Seems like adding Marvel below of Super Heroes could be done as there are already
3 or 4 levels in other parts of the Minifigure hierarchy tree, even "DC Super
Heroes" exists already below Super Heroes.
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It's more complicated than you think, see this archived Reddit post on whether
the Marvel and DC universes are the same or not:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/965oxc/marveldc_are_the_marvel_and_dc_universes_in_the/
Hope that helps.
Cheers ...
ghyde
In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
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| | | | | | | Author: | stickbug29 | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 16:34 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog Requests, ghyde writes:
| | It's more complicated than you think, see this archived Reddit post on whether
the Marvel and DC universes are the same or not:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/965oxc/marveldc_are_the_marvel_and_dc_universes_in_the/
Hope that helps.
Cheers ...
ghyde
In Catalog Requests, stickbug29 writes:
| | Hello Bricklink!
I have a small rant with solution. On Lego.com and every database, "Marvel
Super-heroes" and "DC Superheroes" are listed as two completely different
themes. I can search the database by Marvel and see all the Marvel sets, or
search the database by DC sets. This makes sense, Marvel and DC are two different
companies and brands.
The problem, however, arises with the minifigure item ID's. Despite being
two different companies, both minifigures receive the same item code: 'sh'
(sh001, sh002, etc.). This makes browsing the database much more difficult.
If someone like myself has little interest in DC but a large interest in Marvel,
there is no easy way to look at only Marvel entries in a store. I can search
by each individual subcategory, but there are so many of those that it becomes
quite a hassle. It also complicates collection sites, as you cannot search for
missing Marvel figures. If I try to look up the minifigures that I am missing,
I can only search "Superheroes", which will show me that I am missing
hundreds of DC figures that I have no intention of collecting.
I propose a recoding of minifigures, and already typed out a document with the
new ID's for both Marvel and DC (screencap included in post). If the sets
are two separate themes, it only makes sense that the minifigures should be separate
themes as well. Thank you for your time in reading, and for all the work that
goes into maintaining this database!
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Crossover events don't seem relevant to this conversation. Marvel has published
Star Wars comics but I wouldn't label Star Wars minifigures as Marvel.
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| | | | | Author: | DeLuca | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2023 19:16 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| What about, instead of renumbering everything, we just create DC and Marvel sub-categories?
Then, entries can be classified along the lines of “Super Heroes - Marvel - Avengers”/“Super
Heroes - DC - The Batman”.
Also, I would do the reclassification work!
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 10:16 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | What about, instead of renumbering everything, we just create DC and Marvel sub-categories?
Then, entries can be classified along the lines of “Super Heroes - Marvel - Avengers”/“Super
Heroes - DC - The Batman”.
Also, I would do the reclassification work!
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That's if you ever get approval only your still awaiting for approval to
proceed with this...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1416835
I think you, I or any other individual (One man job!) could easily make all the
necessary changes within an hour or two given relevant access/permission but
barriers are put in the way where changes that could be done in hours end up
taking months and years!
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| | | | | Author: | wyvern | | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 10:34 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It looks like other people thought of this before me, but I can't tell if
this is what they're talking about:
Would introducing branded subcategories be easier? Take this minifigure for example
The current hierarchy is Super Heroes: Batman II: sh009
What if it was Super Heroes: DC: Batman II: sh009?
Although then by this logic, Marvel would have to go under Disney, not Super
Heroes ... quite a mess!
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Oct 3, 2023 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Problematic Super-Heroes Minifigure ID's | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, wyvern writes:
| | It looks like other people thought of this before me, but I can't tell if
this is what they're talking about:
Would introducing branded subcategories be easier? Take this minifigure for example
The current hierarchy is Super Heroes: Batman II: sh009
What if it was Super Heroes: DC: Batman II: sh009?
Although then by this logic, Marvel would have to go under Disney, not Super
Heroes ... quite a mess!
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Why's that? Star Wars is not under Disney, so why would Marvel have to go
under it?
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