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 Author: Darth_Smithy View Messages Posted By Darth_Smithy
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 09:36
 Subject: Alternate part (and book) for 6927-1
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Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
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6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.
 
 Author: ErikLucas72 View Messages Posted By ErikLucas72
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 09:48
 Subject: Re: Alternate part (and book) for 6927-1
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In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.


For the record, The Yellow one is printed in Germany by Frank Druck. Preetz/Holst.
And the Grey version in Printed in Germany by H. O. Persiehl, Hamburg. So it
is two different printers also.
Text is noted on the back of the manuals
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 10:43
 Subject: Re: Alternate part (and book) for 6927-1
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In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David
 Author: ErikLucas72 View Messages Posted By ErikLucas72
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 11:52
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In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 12:08
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In Inventories, ErikLucas72 writes:
  In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink


On BrickLink, inventories are based on what actually came in sets. So, if only
one color of turntable ever came in the actual sets, the inventory will only
show one color of turntable, no matter what the instruction manuals show. In
other words, instruction manuals do not guide the inventories, the parts in the
sets do.

If we were to ever add an alternate part, we would need much more reliable proof
than two different instruction manuals from different printers. The fact that
the instruction manuals were printed at two different printers could mean that
one of them just simply messed up.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 12:16
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Should a note be added to both the set and instructions that there are two versions
of these instructions but the inventory stays as is ?




In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, ErikLucas72 writes:
  In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink


On BrickLink, inventories are based on what actually came in sets. So, if only
one color of turntable ever came in the actual sets, the inventory will only
show one color of turntable, no matter what the instruction manuals show. In
other words, instruction manuals do not guide the inventories, the parts in the
sets do.

If we were to ever add an alternate part, we would need much more reliable proof
than two different instruction manuals from different printers. The fact that
the instruction manuals were printed at two different printers could mean that
one of them just simply messed up.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 13:28
 Subject: Re: Alternate book for 6927-1
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In Inventories, Stuart9 writes:
  Should a note be added to both the set and instructions that there are two versions
of these instructions but the inventory stays as is?

That sounds like the most sensible solution to me.

David
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 13:53
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In Inventories, Stuart9 writes:
  Should a note be added to both the set and instructions that there are two versions
of these instructions but the inventory stays as is ?

So there is no second version but one incorrectly printed version. There are
other instructions with mistakes. I am not sure if Bricklink wants to add a note
that on earlier instructions a turntable was incorrectly printed light gray.

  



In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, ErikLucas72 writes:
  In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink


On BrickLink, inventories are based on what actually came in sets. So, if only
one color of turntable ever came in the actual sets, the inventory will only
show one color of turntable, no matter what the instruction manuals show. In
other words, instruction manuals do not guide the inventories, the parts in the
sets do.

If we were to ever add an alternate part, we would need much more reliable proof
than two different instruction manuals from different printers. The fact that
the instruction manuals were printed at two different printers could mean that
one of them just simply messed up.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 13:58
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Might be a problem if this is widespread but it might stop questions in the future,
just a thought.




In Inventories, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories, Stuart9 writes:
  Should a note be added to both the set and instructions that there are two versions
of these instructions but the inventory stays as is ?

So there is no second version but one incorrectly printed version. There are
other instructions with mistakes. I am not sure if Bricklink wants to add a note
that on earlier instructions a turntable was incorrectly printed light gray.

  



In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, ErikLucas72 writes:
  In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink


On BrickLink, inventories are based on what actually came in sets. So, if only
one color of turntable ever came in the actual sets, the inventory will only
show one color of turntable, no matter what the instruction manuals show. In
other words, instruction manuals do not guide the inventories, the parts in the
sets do.

If we were to ever add an alternate part, we would need much more reliable proof
than two different instruction manuals from different printers. The fact that
the instruction manuals were printed at two different printers could mean that
one of them just simply messed up.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Sep 19, 2023 14:02
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In Inventories, Stuart9 writes:
  Might be a problem if this is widespread but it might stop questions in the future,
just a thought.

IIRC, it’s not the first time, nor the third, this was discussed for this set.

The other sets? Nope, or they didn’t make an impression

So I’d say put a note when there’s a discussion and only then.

People don’t read notes anyway
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In Inventories, ErikLucas72 writes:
  In Inventories, crazylegoman writes:
  In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  
 
Set No: 6927  Name: All Terrain Vehicle
* 
6927-1 (Inv) All Terrain Vehicle
161 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1981
Sets: Space: Classic Space

I just saw this on FB. Look at step 1. The turntable outer can be either yellow
or grey.

Full credit to Erik Lucas for this discovery.

But were light gray turntables ever found in that set? A color error in the
instructions doesn't mean that the set's inventory gets an alternate
added. However, finding a set that actually came with a light gray turntable
instead of a yellow one does.

David

There is a v1 & v2. On rebrickable.
Just not for the instruction manual
So i think the discussion for two versions is already done?
Dont know how this is done here on bricklink

I believe this set always came with yellow turntable and the instructions was
printed incorrectly a light gray but was later corrected. Mistakes on old instructions
was common indeed. I had discovered few mistakes in the instructions of my 857.
For example, two blue 2x10 plates on step 18 became light gray on step 19 (this
set only came with blue 2x10 plates anyway) See photos attached.

It is admittedly strange that the Lego designer of this set wanted a light gray
piece between a blue plate and a yellow chair. That would look odd and ugly.

One extra piece of evidence is that (probably) a yellow turntable was used on
an alternate build on the back of the box. The box does not have two versions.
This was discussed before. See photos attached in this discussion:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1230917