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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Aug 28, 2023 18:36
 Subject: Add part 4724
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Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan
 


 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 08:01
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

What's the underneath look like please Jan? Does a bar go in just a couple
of mm still?
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 12:18
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In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

What's the underneath look like please Jan? Does a bar go in just a couple
of mm still?

Yes. But I'll be damned, there is a difference. The bar holder in the new
mold is 1-2 mm shorter. Here's a photo of fully inserted bars (new mold at
the top).

/Jan
 
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 12:26
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

What's the underneath look like please Jan? Does a bar go in just a couple
of mm still?

Yes. But I'll be damned, there is a difference. The bar holder in the new
mold is 1-2 mm shorter. Here's a photo of fully inserted bars (new mold at
the top).

/Jan

That's the original 30089 though at the bottom.

How does 30089b and 4724 compare with the bar test?
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 15:55
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  Yes. But I'll be damned, there is a difference. The bar holder in the new
mold is 1-2 mm shorter. Here's a photo of fully inserted bars (new mold at
the top).

/Jan

That's the original 30089 though at the bottom.

How does 30089b and 4724 compare with the bar test?

What the deuce? How did that 30089 end up in the bag of 30089b's? Out of
all the correct ones, I managed to pull out the single wrong one.

With that fixed, I can conclude that there's still a depth difference. The
new hole is a bit deeper (approx. 1 mm).

/Jan
 


 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 15:57
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

To me, the new mold also appears to have a bigger/wider gap on the handle.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 16:21
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In Catalog Requests, macebobo writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

To me, the new mold also appears to have a bigger/wider gap on the handle.

If you're judging by my picture, it appears so because of the perspective.
There is no difference in the gap.

/Jan
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Sep 25, 2023 19:22
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

Could a decision be made on how to proceed? I now also have these in Lime.

/Jan
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Sep 25, 2023 20:33
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

Could a decision be made on how to proceed? I now also have these in Lime.

/Jan


When there comes a time to make a decision, we will make one. For now, the older
camera mold is still appearing in all new sets, so we are focused on other things
first.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Sep 26, 2023 10:00
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

Could a decision be made on how to proceed? I now also have these in Lime.

/Jan

If you have both variants in Lime please add some good comparison images.
Differences are hard to see on images of black parts, that is why a decision
was not yet made. You will read it on the forum, once a decision is made.

Thanks for your patience,
Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
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In Catalog Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan

Could a decision be made on how to proceed? I now also have these in Lime.

/Jan

If you have both variants in Lime please add some good comparison images.
Differences are hard to see on images of black parts, that is why a decision
was not yet made. You will read it on the forum, once a decision is made.

Thanks for your patience,
Diana

Sorry, missed Randy's reply.
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: Oct 4, 2023 19:14
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  If you have both variants in Lime please add some good comparison images.
Differences are hard to see on images of black parts, that is why a decision
was not yet made. You will read it on the forum, once a decision is made.

Thanks for your patience,
Diana

New version on top. Insert for bar is clearly deeper. Also the new version is
more blank, old version is very lightly textured.

/Jan
 






 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Nov 14, 2023 16:51
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In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
  Part
 
Part No: 30089b  Name: Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
* 
30089b Minifigure, Utensil Camera Handheld Style with Extended Bar Handle
Parts: Minifigure, Utensil
has a new mold 4724. Please add this.

I see no noticeable differences except the mold number and that the edges may
be a bit harder.

/Jan


The catalog admin team unanimously decided not to add a new version of this part
to the catalog after further discussion. Instead, the alternate item number 4724
was added to 30089b.

Cheers,
Randy