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 Author: BUC View Messages Posted By BUC
 Posted: Aug 22, 2023 14:38
 Subject: Part 58176 please add note to catalog entry
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part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.
 
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 22, 2023 16:33
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In Catalog Requests, BUC writes:
  part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.

 
Part No: 58176  Name: Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
* 
58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar

I see the item numbers 58176, 28624, and 29380. Can we identify them and replace
"old style" and "new style" in the image with their item numbers,
and add it as an additional image? Using those numbers would be more informative
than "old" and "new".
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Aug 22, 2023 17:13
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BUC writes:
  part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.

 
Part No: 58176  Name: Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
* 
58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar

I see the item numbers 58176, 28624, and 29380. Can we identify them and replace
"old style" and "new style" in the image with their item numbers,
and add it as an additional image? Using those numbers would be more informative
than "old" and "new".

No mold numbers on these. I have found three versions. The newest one is at least
a year old. We have no way of knowing which LEGO numbers go with what.

~Jen
 
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 04:17
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TakeAbricK (13453)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BUC writes:
  part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.

 
Part No: 58176  Name: Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
* 
58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar

I see the item numbers 58176, 28624, and 29380. Can we identify them and replace
"old style" and "new style" in the image with their item numbers,
and add it as an additional image? Using those numbers would be more informative
than "old" and "new".

No mold numbers on these. I have found three versions. The newest one is at least
a year old. We have no way of knowing which LEGO numbers go with what.

~Jen

When looking at PCC's versus design-id's, imo it's like below.

Old Style
58176 from 2007-2017 in trans color and white (2011), Flat Silver (2013) and
black and dark pink (2016)

New Style
28624 from 2016-2023 in trans colors only
29380 from 2017-2023 in solid colors only

Unknown Style
4278 not found yet and so far only produced in Black and White

Additional images would be great, but please (also) add the Item Numbers.

Thanks,
Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Aug 30, 2023 04:35
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In Catalog Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BUC writes:
  part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.

 
Part No: 58176  Name: Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
* 
58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar

I see the item numbers 58176, 28624, and 29380. Can we identify them and replace
"old style" and "new style" in the image with their item numbers,
and add it as an additional image? Using those numbers would be more informative
than "old" and "new".

No mold numbers on these. I have found three versions. The newest one is at least
a year old. We have no way of knowing which LEGO numbers go with what.

~Jen

When looking at PCC's versus design-id's, imo it's like below.

Old Style
58176 from 2007-2017 in trans color and white (2011), Flat Silver (2013) and
black and dark pink (2016)

New Style
28624 from 2016-2023 in trans colors only
29380 from 2017-2023 in solid colors only

Unknown Style
4278 not found yet and so far only produced in Black and White

Additional images would be great, but please (also) add the Item Numbers.

Thanks,
Diana

Given the note I added, the image from member BUC fits and is added also (hope
that's ok).
Feel free to add another extra image with item numbers. The other differences
didn't make it to a new design-id though, there are only 2 design-id's
for the trans colors.

Diana
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 31, 2023 18:16
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Just received element 6448948, design 4278.
It has a hollow pin. Again, no part number on the part itself.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Aug 31, 2023 18:24
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Just received element 6448948, design 4278.
It has a hollow pin. Again, no part number on the part itself.
 
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Aug 31, 2023 20:32
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Just received element 6448948, design 4278.
It has a hollow pin. Again, no part number on the part itself.


Wonderful! The wait is over!

Now we can finally move on from this one.

Thanks a bunch, Wouter.
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 Posted: Sep 1, 2023 17:58
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Just received element 6448948, design 4278.
It has a hollow pin. Again, no part number on the part itself.


Wonderful! The wait is over!

Now we can finally move on from this one.

Thanks a bunch, Wouter.

Do we need a better photo?
The USB microscope does not take nice 3D-images, but I can take my camera
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Sep 2, 2023 17:02
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Just received element 6448948, design 4278.
It has a hollow pin. Again, no part number on the part itself.


Wonderful! The wait is over!

Now we can finally move on from this one.

Thanks a bunch, Wouter.

Do we need a better photo?


Yes, please.


  The USB microscope does not take nice 3D-images, but I can take my camera
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Sep 13, 2023 08:53
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Do we need a better photo?

Yes, please.

This is the best I can do right now.
Element 6448948, design 4278, black.

I assume it should be a new part, because we can use the hollow pin to build
the world's smallest rocket
 


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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Do we need a better photo?

Yes, please.

This is the best I can do right now.
Element 6448948, design 4278, black.

I assume it should be a new part, because we can use the hollow pin to build
the world's smallest rocket

If we create a new part, maybe
 
Part No: 58176pb01  Name: Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye with Black Eyes and White Pupils Pattern (Z-Blob)
* 
58176pb01 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye with Black Eyes and White Pupils Pattern (Z-Blob)
Parts: Bar {Trans-Bright Green}
should become 4278pb01
[p=4278pb01,108]
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Sep 13, 2023 12:37
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Do we need a better photo?

Yes, please.

This is the best I can do right now.
Element 6448948, design 4278, black.

I assume it should be a new part, because we can use the hollow pin to build
the world's smallest rocket

If we create a new part, maybe
 
Part No: 58176pb01  Name: Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye with Black Eyes and White Pupils Pattern (Z-Blob)
* 
58176pb01 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye with Black Eyes and White Pupils Pattern (Z-Blob)
Parts: Bar {Trans-Bright Green}
should become 4278pb01
[p=4278pb01,108]

We didn't decide yet if this part gets a new entry, because so far the hole
is not needed in any set. 4278 is only known in white and black so far, if they
appear in trans colors, the question is if the trans get another number. Once
we decide what to do with the plain 4278, we also can give Z-Blob a new number
or alternate number.
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Do we need a better photo?

Yes, please.

This is the best I can do right now.
Element 6448948, design 4278, black.

I assume it should be a new part, because we can use the hollow pin to build
the world's smallest rocket


We will not be creating a new part unless the part is specifically used in an
official set in that manner.
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  Do we need a better photo?

Yes, please.

This is the best I can do right now.
Element 6448948, design 4278, black.

I assume it should be a new part, because we can use the hollow pin to build
the world's smallest rocket


We will not be creating a new part unless the part is specifically used in an
official set in that manner.

I have also uploaded the image to be used as an alternative image now. That at
least preserves the mould variation information.

If we group with the existing entry, the alternative part number needs to be
added and the catalog note should be expanded.
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: Aug 22, 2023 17:49
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BUC writes:
  part 58176 Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye

PLEASE ADD NOTE TO CATALOG ENTRY:

Old and New variations are noticeable in trans- colors. Older has a hollow cap
and longer pin, newer has filled top cap

Trans- colors can vary from lighter to darker.

 
Part No: 58176  Name: Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
* 
58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar

I see the item numbers 58176, 28624, and 29380. Can we identify them and replace
"old style" and "new style" in the image with their item numbers,
and add it as an additional image? Using those numbers would be more informative
than "old" and "new".

I think the 20000 ID numbers belong to MABS parts. If so, they’re some of the
earliest MABS pieces.