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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jul 9, 2023 11:01
 Subject: USPS Ground Advantage® is now live
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Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

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 Author: Upstate_Brickz View Messages Posted By Upstate_Brickz
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Probably a dumb question, but this is how we have to ship bubble mailers now,
right?

I just got an order *AS* I was updating my shipping lol.

Thanks,

AJ
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Shipping, Upstate_Brickz writes:
  Probably a dumb question, but this is how we have to ship bubble mailers now,
right?

Right.
 Author: Upstate_Brickz View Messages Posted By Upstate_Brickz
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 Author: Shiny_Stuff View Messages Posted By Shiny_Stuff
 Posted: Jul 9, 2023 13:43
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In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae


As the newly named Ground Advantage is here, I have a few comments:

First, the name is so darn STOOPID on it own.

Second, with a name like "advantage" you might assume this to be a premium
service and that a lower tier of service exists below the "advantage"
level. But, this is NOT the case. Advantage is now the only service for parcels
aside from Priority Mail and PM Express.

Perhaps I am interpreting the use of the word "advantage" incorrectly.
It could be that the "advantage" is simply meant as a lower-priced service
than Priority Mail.

What I wanna know is how badly will delivery times degrade for "advantage"
parcels. Until now, First Class Parcels traveled at the same speed as Priority
Mail (for the most part, even when processed thru different sorting plants) and
most likely traveled mixed together. Priority Mail, since its introduction in
1991, has always been nothing more than a fancy name for First Class Parcels
heavier than 13 (now 15) ounces with similar or identical speed of delivery than
lower parcel post options that existed at the time.

We will have to wait and see if ground advantage parcels are gonna move slower
than they used to.

If slowdowns do occur, it may encourage the use of Priority Mail more often for
parcels under 16 ounces just to maintain traditional delivery times.

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 Author: Upstate_Brickz View Messages Posted By Upstate_Brickz
 Posted: Jul 9, 2023 14:09
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  We will have to wait and see if ground advantage parcels are gonna move slower
than they used to.


I wondered that too, and this info from shiptation doesn't fill me with confidence:

"Combined with longer transit time, the shipment will be handled more than
shipments that are sent through any of the air services offered by USPS. Be sure
to pack properly."

My guess about the "Advantage" part of the stupid name, is just marketing
to sound fancier than FedEx Ground or UPS Ground.
 Author: negative View Messages Posted By negative
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In Shipping, Shiny_Stuff writes:
Priority Mail, since its introduction in
  1991, has always been nothing more than a fancy name for First Class Parcels
heavier than 13 (now 15) ounces with similar or identical speed of delivery than

Maybe it seems that way, (and if it does that means things are going very smoothly)
but it is not how the USPS works.

I worked in a mail sorting center for a town of ~40K in college and Priority
packages absolutely got priority over others. We were instructed to sort the
Priority packages first. Only once we got all of them distributed to their proper
routes AND we finished sorting the flats (letters) could we start distributing
the non-priority packages.

If we didn't finish the ground/media etc. before the carriers went out, they
sat until the next day.


Thank you
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Jul 10, 2023 15:50
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In Shipping, Shiny_Stuff writes:

  As the newly named Ground Advantage is here, I have a few comments:

First, the name is so darn STOOPID on it own.

Second, with a name like "advantage" you might assume this to be a premium
service and that a lower tier of service exists below the "advantage"
level. But, this is NOT the case. Advantage is now the only service for parcels
aside from Priority Mail and PM Express.

Perhaps I am interpreting the use of the word "advantage" incorrectly.
It could be that the "advantage" is simply meant as a lower-priced service
than Priority Mail.

I think the advantage may be that all ground advantage products now come with
insurance, at least on Pirateship.com
 Author: Swatson217 View Messages Posted By Swatson217
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So far my orders have been cheaper than before.
Let’s see if they take longer to get there!

In Shipping, macebobo writes:
  In Shipping, Shiny_Stuff writes:

  As the newly named Ground Advantage is here, I have a few comments:

First, the name is so darn STOOPID on it own.

Second, with a name like "advantage" you might assume this to be a premium
service and that a lower tier of service exists below the "advantage"
level. But, this is NOT the case. Advantage is now the only service for parcels
aside from Priority Mail and PM Express.

Perhaps I am interpreting the use of the word "advantage" incorrectly.
It could be that the "advantage" is simply meant as a lower-priced service
than Priority Mail.

I think the advantage may be that all ground advantage products now come with
insurance, at least on Pirateship.com
 Author: TallyToyBricks View Messages Posted By TallyToyBricks
 Posted: Jul 10, 2023 20:50
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I think the advantage may be that all ground advantage products now come with
insurance, at least on Pirateship.com

USPS Ground Advantage includes $100 of insurance independent of where the postage
was purchased.

As a way to control costs, USPS has been transitioning First Class packages away
from air shipment to ground shipment for the past year. The Ground Advantage
naming just makes it clear that "most" packages will now ship via trucks.

Think of it as a tradeoff of slightly slower shipping for "free" insurance.
For USPS this is a good business decision - include insurance (which is seldom
needed, but perceived as valuable) for cheaper shipping costs.

Joe
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In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae

So, shipstation wants me to make decisions on a simple 4oz bubble mailer?

USPS are always making insignificant changes on the surface, to sneak in added
cost where you are not looking...
 
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
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In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae


Ugh, my calculated shipping rates on ebay (which are retail, you can't change
it) are like $6.15 for a 4 oz item now.


Ship station is still showing first class as usual. Ebay made the switch this
morning.
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In Shipping, Adjour writes:
  In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae


Ugh, my calculated shipping rates on ebay (which are retail, you can't change
it) are like $6.15 for a 4 oz item now.


Ship station is still showing first class as usual. Ebay made the switch this
morning.

I am sure more and more people will not be buying very much on the auction sites
due to higher shipping rates now. I know I don't like it either as a buyer.
The seller does not give a refund of the shipping cost when they get a discount.
 Author: TallyToyBricks View Messages Posted By TallyToyBricks
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I am sure more and more people will not be buying very much on the auction sites
due to higher shipping rates now. I know I don't like it either as a buyer.
The seller does not give a refund of the shipping cost when they get a discount.

I'm not sure what you guys are doing? Maybe charging calculated retail is
not the correct option for light packages on Ebay with USPS Ground Advantage.

I just printed out a label for 4oz going to my zone 6 for $3.90.

Looks the same as before the change.

Joe
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I am sure more and more people will not be buying very much on the auction sites
due to higher shipping rates now. I know I don't like it either as a buyer.
The seller does not give a refund of the shipping cost when they get a discount.

I'm not sure what you guys are doing? Maybe charging calculated retail is
not the correct option for light packages on Ebay with USPS Ground Advantage.

I just printed out a label for 4oz going to my zone 6 for $3.90.

Looks the same as before the change.

Joe

Same. I see the same rates as normal on PirateShip. Just name change.
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In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae

My biggest concern is USPS doesn't think Ground Advantage exists when request
for pickup


Tried to put 35 into Other, it came back as 39 total. I changed it back to invisible
Ground Advantage®.
 


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In Shipping, bahpstore writes:
  In Shipping, cosmicray writes:
  Be sure to update your TOS and/or rates as appropriate.

Nita Rae

My biggest concern is USPS doesn't think Ground Advantage exists when request
for pickup


Tried to put 35 into Other, it came back as 39 total. I changed it back to invisible
Ground Advantage®.

Yeah looks like they are still tweaking code. My ebay went back to first class
for a few hours last night. I'm guess they are taking things offline to work
on them