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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 07:25
 Subject: Extra part in inventory without base entry
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cosmicray (3486)

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This (at least this instance) refers to the inventory for set 41453-1.

I see an extra item for p/n 85861 in white, with no corresponding base part entry.

Is this in reality an optional part, or is this an additional part for something
that is in a sub-inventory (e.g. a minifig) ?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Nita Rae
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 07:37
 Subject: Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry
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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  This (at least this instance) refers to the inventory for set 41453-1.

I see an extra item for p/n 85861 in white, with no corresponding base part entry.

Is this in reality an optional part, or is this an additional part for something
that is in a sub-inventory (e.g. a minifig) ?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Nita Rae

It's used in

 
Minifig No: uni07  Name: Unikitty - Large Smile
* 
uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 08:00
 Subject: Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry
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cosmicray (3486)

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  This (at least this instance) refers to the inventory for set 41453-1.

I see an extra item for p/n 85861 in white, with no corresponding base part entry.

Is this in reality an optional part, or is this an additional part for something
that is in a sub-inventory (e.g. a minifig) ?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Nita Rae

It's used in

 
Minifig No: uni07  Name: Unikitty - Large Smile
* 
uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07

Thank you. That reveals another shortcoming in the BL implementation. That being
that, while you may be able to see that on the HTML web page display (assuming
you can click something that expands the sub-inventories), there is no option
to do likewise on the XML download of the set inventory. All I get in the XML
file is a flat rendering of the basic set inventory. It doesn’t reveal that this
part was an extra assigned to the minifig (which we can’t do in the inventory
section of the catalog, because that might imply that every sale of the minifig
comes with the extra).

In one sense it would be nice (I suspect) if extras were matched to the
item they are extra to, just like alternates are (but at the same time not trying
to say they are an alternate because they are not).

Nita Rae
 Author: Ber_i View Messages Posted By Ber_i
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 08:41
 Subject: Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry
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Ber_i (347)

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Set view to "break minifigure", and all the parts of the figs are shown
as set-inventory
 
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 08:42
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cosmicray (3486)

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In Catalog, Ber_i writes:
  Set view to "break minifigure", and all the parts of the figs are shown
as set-inventory

Which is fine (as I suggested) but does not propagate to the XML inventory download.

Nita Rae
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 2, 2023 16:08
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In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, cosmicray writes:
  This (at least this instance) refers to the inventory for set 41453-1.

I see an extra item for p/n 85861 in white, with no corresponding base part entry.

Is this in reality an optional part, or is this an additional part for something
that is in a sub-inventory (e.g. a minifig) ?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Nita Rae

It's used in

 
Minifig No: uni07  Name: Unikitty - Large Smile
* 
uni07 (Inv) Unikitty - Large Smile
Minifigures: Unikitty!

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?M=uni07

Thank you. That reveals another shortcoming in the BL implementation. That being
that, while you may be able to see that on the HTML web page display (assuming
you can click something that expands the sub-inventories), there is no option
to do likewise on the XML download of the set inventory. All I get in the XML
file is a flat rendering of the basic set inventory. It doesn’t reveal that this
part was an extra assigned to the minifig (which we can’t do in the inventory
section of the catalog, because that might imply that every sale of the minifig
comes with the extra).

In one sense it would be nice (I suspect) if extras were matched to the
item they are extra to, just like alternates are (but at the same time not trying
to say they are an alternate because they are not).


Extras _are_ matched to the item they are extra to. They are extra parts to the
set. That is how TLC defines them. They are not extra parts to a minifigure.
A minifigure is an assembly defined by BrickLink, and it should have no bearing
on the set that contains it. Basically, it is just another counterpart like all
other assemblies that are defined in the Counterparts section. Unfortunately,
the BrickLink system treats the minifigure assemblies as special items and all
of that needs to be changed. But the Sun may have gone supernova before that
ever happens.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 4, 2023 08:40
 Subject: Re: Extra part in inventory without base entry
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cosmicray (3486)

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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Unfortunately,
the BrickLink system treats the minifigure assemblies as special items and all
of that needs to be changed. But the Sun may have gone supernova before that
ever happens.


Yep, I agree. If anything, a set inventory should be totally flat, with various
combinations of parts (done for various reasons) implemented as a view
upon the flat file.

In the meantime, I will be stocking up on dark shades to avoid the glare of the
supernova when the day arrives.

cheers, Nita Rae