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 Author: djklitz View Messages Posted By djklitz
 Posted: May 31, 2023 14:22
 Subject: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos
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djklitz (177)

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I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!
 


 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 31, 2023 14:29
 Subject: Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos
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In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:
  I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!


Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.
 Author: djklitz View Messages Posted By djklitz
 Posted: May 31, 2023 14:34
 Subject: Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos
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djklitz (177)

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Oh awesome thank you I did not realize there was a self-submittal process or
I would have started there. I was directed to come here from bricklink support.

And yes - sorting by color helps avoid this mistake. Unfortunately my parts are
sorted by type so when I am doing plates - I get all the plates of all the colors
I need etc. Then I have everything organized alphabetically as bricklink displays
them so I can, usually, get things done more quickly.

In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:
  I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!


Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: May 31, 2023 15:18
 Subject: Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:
  I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!


Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not. These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.

David
 




 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 31, 2023 16:29
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randyf (442)

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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, djklitz writes:
  I've noticed a lot of light gray pieces appear dark gray in color as well
as dark gray pieces appearing light gray. I've been making several mistakes
inventorying sets because I am glancing at the photo and may forget to fully
read the description. When doing so many sets at once it can be easy to overlook
occasionally.

Attached is two examples.
One of set 5958 - Mummy's Tomb when sorting by Item Name. The dark gray slope
looks very light gray.
Also in 5988, two of the light gray parts could easily be mistaken as dark gray.

However, there are many cases of other parts specifically with dark vs light
gray.

It would be awesome to adjust these as I am sure I am not the only one who's
made this mistake. Could we fix these default images to be more representative
of their actual color?

Thanks!


Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not.


And why is that, pray tell? I am in the position to handle these things, so I
believe I know what I am talking about.


  These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.


They were replaced because _all_ of the old 80 x 60 pixel thumbnail images were
replaced with larger images. At that time, the LEGO renders were chosen as the
default. Not my decision or that of any of the other volunteer admins. However,
users _are_ free to adjust the colors of the renders and upload them if they
think they are better. I have personally done this on over 9000 images in the
catalog.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&imgID=169230&v=2

How many have you done?

Randy
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: May 31, 2023 17:22
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Anyone out there is more than welcome to submit improved images. It is a community-built
database, so the community can fix things that they see need fixing.

Improved images may be uploaded here:

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page?itemType=P

Cheers,
Randy

P.S. One suggestion I would give you is to sort your lists by _color_ instead
of by part name. That way, all dark gray parts get lumped together and all light
gray parts get lumped together. It helps tremendously with the inventorying process.

I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not.


And why is that, pray tell? I am in the position to handle these things, so I
believe I know what I am talking about.

Because I wish that superior images replaced inferior images, and never the reverse.

  
  These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.


They were replaced because _all_ of the old 80 x 60 pixel thumbnail images were
replaced with larger images. At that time, the LEGO renders were chosen as the
default. Not my decision or that of any of the other volunteer admins.

I believe that replacing all the old images was a bad decision. I'm not
saying you specifically did it. I honestly don't know what individual or
group was responsible, but I do know that it has led to the trouble that this
thread's initiator experienced.

  However,
users _are_ free to adjust the colors of the renders and upload them if they
think they are better. I have personally done this on over 9000 images in the
catalog.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&imgID=169230&v=2

How many have you done?

Randy

What a pompous question. You know exactly how to look up all of the catalog
images that I have contributed. I appreciate your many contributions to the
catalog, but I don't think that their vast number is a valid excuse to be
condescending to anyone.

David
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: May 31, 2023 19:33
 Subject: Re: Dark Gray vs Light Gray part photos
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  
I wish that was the way it worked, but we both know that it is not. These are
the images in the colors that djklitz mentioned that used to be the catalog
images. They were clear renders, and the colors were spot on. These 3 images
were replaced by the current ones that cause problems.

David

Ouch! Yes, at some point the BL office dumped all our line-drawn images for part
renders. They decided to trade people complaining that our images were too small
for people complaining about the color of our images. What can we do?

We are still free to correct and upload images. The community still can improve
our catalog.

The old grays are a problem for sure. Those of us who spend time recoloring renders
(of which randyf is our fearless leader) tend to focus on getting new parts and
colors done and less on the vintage stuff.

I've tried a couple of times to set myself to this task but there are so
many gray images and (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.

Take care,
~Jen
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: May 31, 2023 20:20
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  I dislike the old grays.


But, but, it is in your store name!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 31, 2023 20:44
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In Catalog, macebobo writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  I dislike the old grays.

But, but, it is in your store name!

Then I guess this is why she's selling them?
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 Posted: May 31, 2023 21:02
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.

Take care,
~Jen

Wait--WHAT?! If someone had asked me to take a guess at who on Bricklink
likes the old grays most, you would've been in my top 3 choices.

Did you dislike them before you started adjusting images to match their
hue or after?

David
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: May 31, 2023 23:39
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.

Take care,
~Jen

Wait--WHAT?! If someone had asked me to take a guess at who on Bricklink
likes the old grays most, you would've been in my top 3 choices.

Did you dislike them before you started adjusting images to match their
hue or after?

David

Way back in the day, I started my shop to get rid of all the bricks we didn’t
want… ya know, the Old Grey ones.

~Jen
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 31, 2023 23:40
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  Way back in the day, I started my shop to get rid of all the bricks we didn’t
want… ya know, the Old Grey ones.

the weird old gray colours
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 Posted: May 31, 2023 21:07
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:

  I've tried a couple of times to set myself to this task but there are so
many gray images and (seriously, I am not making this up...) I dislike the old
grays.


Wait... What?!? 😵