Discussion Forum: Thread 339857

 Author: UTLF View Messages Posted By UTLF
 Posted: May 16, 2023 13:32
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 241 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

UTLF (1267)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 27, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: UTLF
(Cancelled)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 16, 2023 13:45
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 74 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 25, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  I recently placed an order with a seller in Germany, and once the package was
shipped (over a week ago now) I messaged them and asked if tracking was included
with the package - they replied the next day and said it is, but didn't actually
give me the tracking number

Stupid question: Have you checked the orders details?
 Author: UTLF View Messages Posted By UTLF
 Posted: May 16, 2023 13:56
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 67 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

UTLF (1267)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 27, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: UTLF
(Cancelled)
 Author: edk View Messages Posted By edk
 Posted: May 16, 2023 14:00
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 70 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

edk (9183)

Location:  USA, Michigan
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 17, 2005 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Timeless Toy Bricks
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  
  Stupid question: Have you checked the orders details?

Not a stupid question at all!
I have kept an eye on it off and on, but nothing has been added unfortunately


pay with paypal? label printed through paypal? If yes to both you can locate
the details in your paypal account.
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: May 16, 2023 14:38
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 64 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

wildchicken13 (876)

Location:  USA, Illinois
Member Since Contact Type Status
Aug 11, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Wild Chicken
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  The seller in question has a good amount of positive feedback, but I'm still
a bit puzzled as to why it's so difficult for them to send the tracking number

It's a German custom not to let the buyer know the tracking number
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: May 16, 2023 16:15
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 47 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Brickitty (6460)

Location:  USA, Colorado
Member Since Contact Type Status
Aug 13, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Brickitty
In Problem Order, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  The seller in question has a good amount of positive feedback, but I'm still
a bit puzzled as to why it's so difficult for them to send the tracking number

It's a German custom not to let the buyer know the tracking number

Not just German. I'd say half of the orders I make from European and British
sellers say they'll include tracking but never send it.
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: May 16, 2023 15:16
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 74 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

ghyde (203)

Location:  Australia, Queensland
Member Since Contact Type Status Collage
May 10, 2003 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
View Collage Pic
Store: Far North Bricks
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  I recently placed an order with a seller in Germany, and once the package was
shipped (over a week ago now) I messaged them and asked if tracking was included
with the package - they replied the next day and said it is, but didn't actually
give me the tracking number

I message back asking for the tracking number once again - they read the message
but didn't reply; there was nothing in my email folders either (junk, inbox,
etc)

Fast forward to yesterday, 6 days after my last message to them, and the same
thing happens; I ask politely for the tracking number, they read the message
but don't reply

The seller in question has a good amount of positive feedback, but I'm still
a bit puzzled as to why it's so difficult for them to send the tracking number
- even if they didn't have it, they could at least let me know that they
forgot to note it down before dropping the package off

This was a fairly expensive order, so I'm wondering how long I should wait
before raising the issue further? Going off of other BL packages with tracking,
recent orders from Germany have taken about 10 days to 2 weeks to arrive - it's
been 9 days now, so would a month be fair?

I don't recommend it, but if you really want the tracking number, a lawyer
could sequester it for you.

You'd be very likely to get the seller responding to email and messages,
as an added bonus.

I suggest you look at the seller's feedback history, if they have a history
of shipping issues or non-compliance regarding sending tracking numbers, it should
show you in the feedback left for the seller.

That might constitute grounds for using a lawyer to retrieve information you're
entitled to, on a legal basis.

Lawyers don't do funny, they just get you the information you wanted and
should have been given in the first place.

Just my 2c worth, a proper lawyer shouldn't charge you an excessive fee for
retrieving package tracking information.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: UTLF View Messages Posted By UTLF
 Posted: May 16, 2023 19:17
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 65 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

UTLF (1267)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 27, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: UTLF
(Cancelled)
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: May 16, 2023 21:51
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 62 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

macebobo (2442)

Location:  USA, Oregon
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 3, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: MacsBricks
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  Just called the best lawyer I know, he says he'll have it handled in a few
days

Is he going to send your seller to Belize?
 Author: wildchicken13 View Messages Posted By wildchicken13
 Posted: May 17, 2023 00:03
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 62 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

wildchicken13 (876)

Location:  USA, Illinois
Member Since Contact Type Status
Aug 11, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Wild Chicken
In Problem Order, macebobo writes:
  Is he going to send your seller to Belize?

Yes, and he'll even give you the tracking number!
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: May 16, 2023 16:07
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 41 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

zorbanj (820)

Location:  USA, New Jersey
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 14, 2003 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: ZorbaNJ's Bricks
There may not be a tracking number even though the seller said there was, in
which case they won't answer hoping the package shows up. Waiting a month
is fair.

In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  I recently placed an order with a seller in Germany, and once the package was
shipped (over a week ago now) I messaged them and asked if tracking was included
with the package - they replied the next day and said it is, but didn't actually
give me the tracking number

I message back asking for the tracking number once again - they read the message
but didn't reply; there was nothing in my email folders either (junk, inbox,
etc)

Fast forward to yesterday, 6 days after my last message to them, and the same
thing happens; I ask politely for the tracking number, they read the message
but don't reply

The seller in question has a good amount of positive feedback, but I'm still
a bit puzzled as to why it's so difficult for them to send the tracking number
- even if they didn't have it, they could at least let me know that they
forgot to note it down before dropping the package off

This was a fairly expensive order, so I'm wondering how long I should wait
before raising the issue further? Going off of other BL packages with tracking,
recent orders from Germany have taken about 10 days to 2 weeks to arrive - it's
been 9 days now, so would a month be fair?
 Author: uticabrix View Messages Posted By uticabrix
 Posted: May 16, 2023 16:30
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 47 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

uticabrix (11943)

Location:  USA, New York
Member Since Contact Type Status
Aug 30, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Utica Brix
Paypal now shows the tracking #s.


In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  I recently placed an order with a seller in Germany, and once the package was
shipped (over a week ago now) I messaged them and asked if tracking was included
with the package - they replied the next day and said it is, but didn't actually
give me the tracking number

I message back asking for the tracking number once again - they read the message
but didn't reply; there was nothing in my email folders either (junk, inbox,
etc)

Fast forward to yesterday, 6 days after my last message to them, and the same
thing happens; I ask politely for the tracking number, they read the message
but don't reply

The seller in question has a good amount of positive feedback, but I'm still
a bit puzzled as to why it's so difficult for them to send the tracking number
- even if they didn't have it, they could at least let me know that they
forgot to note it down before dropping the package off

This was a fairly expensive order, so I'm wondering how long I should wait
before raising the issue further? Going off of other BL packages with tracking,
recent orders from Germany have taken about 10 days to 2 weeks to arrive - it's
been 9 days now, so would a month be fair?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 16, 2023 16:36
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 41 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

yorbrick (1185)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 11, 2011 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Yorbricks
In Problem Order, uticabrix writes:
  Paypal now shows the tracking #s.


It wouldn't surprise me if the German seller did not use Paypal to pay for
a postage label. Paypal and shipping companies are not that well integrated in
other countries outside the US.
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: May 16, 2023 17:17
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 46 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

cycbuild (827)

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 15, 2019 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: AFOL At Names
(I was about to ask the same question as Sylvain)

  This was a fairly expensive order, so I'm wondering how long I should wait
before raising the issue further? Going off of other BL packages with tracking,
recent orders from Germany have taken about 10 days to 2 weeks to arrive - it's
been 9 days now, so would a month be fair?

Yeah that's fair. Unless other buyers mention shipping delays?

In the absence of tracking details or 'delivery attempt was made' post-cards,
you should definitely check your local mail hub once a week. A good amount (about
a fifth) of my undelivered packages are from Germany and they get sent back as
timely as possible.
 Author: 1986saephan View Messages Posted By 1986saephan
 Posted: May 16, 2023 17:47
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 33 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

1986saephan (259)

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
Feb 12, 2023 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: LegendofTheBrick
Check your PayPal for tracking.
 Author: UTLF View Messages Posted By UTLF
 Posted: May 16, 2023 19:15
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 45 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

UTLF (1267)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 27, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: UTLF
(Cancelled)
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: May 17, 2023 18:49
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 41 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

cycbuild (827)

Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 15, 2019 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: AFOL At Names
(Cancelled)
 Author: LeeGo73 View Messages Posted By LeeGo73
 Posted: May 16, 2023 17:54
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 46 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

LeeGo73 (1266)

Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 28, 2020 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: 2 buy 4 Bricks
Depending on shipper/country, tracking can be an added cost. When placing the
order did you choose/ask/pay for a shipping method including tracking?

If yes; you are entitled to receive the tracking number
 Author: UTLF View Messages Posted By UTLF
 Posted: May 16, 2023 19:09
 Subject: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 50 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

UTLF (1267)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Oct 27, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: UTLF
(Cancelled)
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: May 17, 2023 14:28
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 56 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Stellar (3507)

Location:  Spain, Comunidad Valenciana
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 24, 2015 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Stellar Bricks
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  The package was sent as a DHL paket; I believe that a tracking number is automatically
included with that shipping method, although I can only go off of previous packages
I've had sent that way - the seller's terms are just the standard legal
stuff that German sellers are required to have, so I can't say for sure that
tracking is mentioned

With one of the shipping companies I use I only get the tracking number the next
day after pickup, all the orders label get a pickup ID that gets sorted and auto-etiqueteted
depending on country carrier.

In the case of DHL, most times DHL already sends you an email with the tracking
info, so the seller saves that step with each order. I suppose you have checked
your spam folder just in case?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 17, 2023 14:46
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 43 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 25, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
BrickLink Discussions Moderator (?)
In Problem Order, Stellar writes:
  […]
In the case of DHL, most times DHL already sends you an email with the tracking
info, so the seller saves that step with each order. I suppose you have checked
your spam folder just in case?

Ah, that explains why one seller I bought from put “You’ll receive tracking-information
directly from shipping company via email” in the Shipping field.

Problem is, I think the mails were blocked directly by my ISP because I never
got them (nope, not in the spam folder either).
Maybe because there’s a lot of scams/phishing about packages these days.

(I do receive the e-mails from DHL Express, but that was a DHL Parcel, no signature. 
And it arrived in 3 days, so not an issue.)
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: May 17, 2023 19:44
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 38 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

legoman77 (3628)

Location:  USA, Texas
Member Since Contact Type Status Collage
Jan 22, 2003 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
View Collage Pic
Store: 77's Bricks & Sets
In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
  I recently placed an order with a seller in Germany, and once the package was
shipped (over a week ago now) I messaged them and asked if tracking was included
with the package - they replied the next day and said it is, but didn't actually
give me the tracking number


Try one of these.

John P
 
 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
 Posted: May 17, 2023 23:48
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 49 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

pcthurman (1214)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 20, 2004 Contact Member Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
Could there be a language barrier perhaps? The seller may have "opened"
your message but if it was not in German, perhaps they just closed the message
and did not bother to translate it?

You could always accommodate the seller and send a query to them again in German
and English.

1 other thing, USPS has a feature called "Informed delivery." This feature
adds all tracking info for any package going to your address IF you are registered
for it. I can see all my international packages through this feature even if
the seller does not supply a tracking number.

Does Canada Post have anything like this?

Cass T
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 17, 2023 23:55
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 35 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Nubs_Select (3783)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 15, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Nub's Select
Well with Canada post we sometimes are given tracking numbers for packages to
pickup that don't even work so I don't think they have that (at least
I haven't heard of it)
 Author: pcthurman View Messages Posted By pcthurman
 Posted: May 18, 2023 00:19
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 35 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

pcthurman (1214)

Location:  USA, Virginia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 20, 2004 Contact Member Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  Well with Canada post we sometimes are given tracking numbers for packages to
pickup that don't even work so I don't think they have that (at least
I haven't heard of it)

Maybe someone should suggest it to them.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 18, 2023 00:26
 Subject: Re: Seller ignoring requests for tracking
 Viewed: 53 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

Nubs_Select (3783)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
Member Since Contact Type Status
Mar 15, 2016 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Nub's Select
In Problem Order, pcthurman writes:
  In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
  Well with Canada post we sometimes are given tracking numbers for packages to
pickup that don't even work so I don't think they have that (at least
I haven't heard of it)

Maybe someone should suggest it to them.

 Author: MaksD View Messages Posted By MaksD
 Posted: Jun 23, 2023 16:04
 Subject: Re: (Cancelled)
 Viewed: 26 times
 Topic: Problem Order
Cancel Message
Cancel
Reply to Message
Reply
BrickLink
ID Card

MaksD (0)

Location:  Slovenia
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jun 23, 2023 Contact Member Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
In Problem Order, 1P writes:
  (Cancelled)The instructions for selling things and what I have to do are a bit unclear to me. Could you help me?

Thank you