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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 17:31 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 93 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
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Those three reasons don't sound problematic.
You have a very low lot limit of 7 lots. Was there anything in your terms suggesting
that buyers could buy more by contacting you, or something similar that could
be perceived as advertising here but arranging orders away from bricklink?
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| | | | | | | Author: | auxman1985 | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Ya, people would message me about a bypass password, but I never set one up.
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
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Those three reasons don't sound problematic.
You have a very low lot limit of 7 lots. Was there anything in your terms suggesting
that buyers could buy more by contacting you, or something similar that could
be perceived as advertising here but arranging orders away from bricklink?
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 17:33 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 101 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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It's probably a mistake. Wait for a response from the help desk. It can take
a while.
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:45 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | It's probably a mistake. Wait for a response from the help desk. It can take
a while.
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This guy was 20 when he contacted the help desk. Just be patient.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | goldknight | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, legoman77 writes:
| | | | It's probably a mistake. Wait for a response from the help desk. It can take
a while.
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This guy was 20 when he contacted the help desk. Just be patient.
John P
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I didn’t know you were still waiting John. Maybe send them another message.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, goldknight writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, legoman77 writes:
| | | | It's probably a mistake. Wait for a response from the help desk. It can take
a while.
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This guy was 20 when he contacted the help desk. Just be patient.
John P
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I didn’t know you were still waiting John. Maybe send them another message.
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If I wasn't so old I would resent that.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [09B-2BB0C928-0016].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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low lot limit plus banned for fee avoidance. all to familiar. did you price items
super cheap and then charge lots on shipping or fees?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | auxman1985 | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 10:29 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 98 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| To be fair, it was a way to artificially make your store appear cheaper than
it actually is on the price guide. This in itself is not entirely 'honest'.
If you want 1.10 for a part, list it at 1.10, not 1.00 with a surprise 10% fee.
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Is it possible to get unbanned?
I did not know that counted as fee avoidance?
Other places such as eBay always charged fees on entire order total including
shipping and fees so I assumed it was the same.
It was an honest mistake
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [09B-2BB0C928-0016].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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low lot limit plus banned for fee avoidance. all to familiar. did you price items
super cheap and then charge lots on shipping or fees?
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Yes.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | auxman1985 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 13:33 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Also to add to this, the whole reason I dropped my prices was to be competitive.
Things just were not selling and I was trying to move things quicker, it wasn’t
malicious to avoid fees.
There is nothing under the terms of service that mentions you can’t have low
prices. As a newcomer to bricklink, I didn’t even know that was not allowed.
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I can't tell if you're serious. You can have low prices.
You can't have PRETEND low prices. Low prices that you raise back (after
they order and after BL gets their fees) by adding fees.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Also to add to this, the whole reason I dropped my prices was to be competitive.
Things just were not selling and I was trying to move things quicker, it wasn’t
malicious to avoid fees.
There is nothing under the terms of service that mentions you can’t have low
prices. As a newcomer to bricklink, I didn’t even know that was not allowed.
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That is obvious not why you are suspended.
If you are making out that you are suspended for some bogus reason, it may well
be that the admins reading it won't remove the suspension.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:37 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Also to add to this, the whole reason I dropped my prices was to be competitive.
Things just were not selling and I was trying to move things quicker, it wasn’t
malicious to avoid fees.
There is nothing under the terms of service that mentions you can’t have low
prices. As a newcomer to bricklink, I didn’t even know that was not allowed.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | auxman1985 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:31 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 18:10 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| A common fee avoidance tactic is to charge a 10% handling fee, essentially meaning
you are selling for 10% more, but only paying your fees on the list price. Did
you do that?
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [09B-2BB0C928-0016].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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| | | | | | | Author: | auxman1985 | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 125 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Yes I did have the additional handling fee, but I guess I did not know that would
be considered fee avoidance. It was just handling fee that I charged in the
option 1 category.
Is it possible to restore my account? Was not my intention to avoid any fees
and I can remove the handling fee.
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, axaday writes:
| | A common fee avoidance tactic is to charge a 10% handling fee, essentially meaning
you are selling for 10% more, but only paying your fees on the list price. Did
you do that?
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [09B-2BB0C928-0016].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2023 18:28 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| A handling fee is okay as long as it isn't a percentage or really big.
A suspension like this probably happens when someone sees it and reports it.
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Yes I did have the additional handling fee, but I guess I did not know that would
be considered fee avoidance. It was just handling fee that I charged in the
option 1 category.
Is it possible to restore my account? Was not my intention to avoid any fees
and I can remove the handling fee.
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, axaday writes:
| | A common fee avoidance tactic is to charge a 10% handling fee, essentially meaning
you are selling for 10% more, but only paying your fees on the list price. Did
you do that?
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, auxman1985 writes:
| | Help! New user on bricklink
My ticket is [09B-2BB0C928-0016].
Was just suspended for fee avoidance, but I Did not transact outside of bricklink
to avoid any fees. I did not SELL or PURCHASE off of bricklink to circumvent
any fees. I did not contact anyone to make transactions outside of bricklink.
The only things I can think of is:
1) sending someone replacement parts due to missing parts that fell out of a
broken envelope
2) Someone inquired if I take any payments that isnt paypal, but I didnt engage
or sell this person anything
3) A buyer failed to pay and I forgot to cancel the order.
Not sure what else is there.
I only sold my parts via bricklink and paid all my bricklink and paypal fees.
I dont understand why my store would be suspended for fee avoidance.
Please help
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, axaday writes:
| | A handling fee is okay as long as it isn't a percentage or really big.
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And yet MY OWN STORE in Denmark is charging a 35% fee on non-EU orders (10% handling
mentioned in terms and 25% international fee only mentioned in the banner and
nowhere in the terms, which seems like it's also breaking the rules --
and both are charged on the total including shipping and tax, which is extra
ridiculous) and has been allowed to continue. I reported them months ago, but
nothing happened. I don't understand why the big sellers who do this blatantly
get away with it for months or years, while the 80-feedback sellers get banned
quickly.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legomalego | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:43 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Money talks!
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Brickitty writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, axaday writes:
| | A handling fee is okay as long as it isn't a percentage or really big.
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And yet MY OWN STORE in Denmark is charging a 35% fee on non-EU orders (10% handling
mentioned in terms and 25% international fee only mentioned in the banner and
nowhere in the terms, which seems like it's also breaking the rules --
and both are charged on the total including shipping and tax, which is extra
ridiculous) and has been allowed to continue. I reported them months ago, but
nothing happened. I don't understand why the big sellers who do this blatantly
get away with it for months or years, while the 80-feedback sellers get banned
quickly.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 15:07 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, legomalego writes:
| | Money talks!
In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Brickitty writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, axaday writes:
| | A handling fee is okay as long as it isn't a percentage or really big.
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And yet MY OWN STORE in Denmark is charging a 35% fee on non-EU orders (10% handling
mentioned in terms and 25% international fee only mentioned in the banner and
nowhere in the terms, which seems like it's also breaking the rules --
and both are charged on the total including shipping and tax, which is extra
ridiculous) and has been allowed to continue. I reported them months ago, but
nothing happened. I don't understand why the big sellers who do this blatantly
get away with it for months or years, while the 80-feedback sellers get banned
quickly.
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Don't know if this is for the OP or Bricklink. Bricklink does let big sellers
get away with stuff, in my opinion, like havinh lots of negatives or neutrals.
An argument about large numbers of feedbacks that are poor, is a those small
percentage of sales. But there is a limit of 3 NSS no matter if the seller has
one feedback or thousands.
As for the seller not knowing that adding a percentage fee is not a way to increase
buyers prices and is unfair is a stretch. If the OP does not know this, he/she
should not be selling.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rankster | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Brickitty writes:
| | And yet MY OWN STORE in Denmark is charging a 35% fee on non-EU orders (10% handling
mentioned in terms and 25% international fee only mentioned in the banner and
nowhere in the terms, which seems like it's also breaking the rules --
and both are charged on the total including shipping and tax, which is extra
ridiculous) and has been allowed to continue. I reported them months ago, but
nothing happened. I don't understand why the big sellers who do this blatantly
get away with it for months or years, while the 80-feedback sellers get banned
quickly.
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I guess that insane extra fee has something to do with taxation of used products
since more than 94% of his items are used. The banners says "Vatsystem problems
pre-owned bricks".
The bigger issue with that store seems to be that the shipping costs and fees
are not provided beforehand. No exact shipping costs visible in his terms or
during checkout so basicly he can charge whatever he wants.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, rankster writes:
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I guess that insane extra fee has something to do with taxation of used products
since more than 94% of his items are used. The banners says "Vatsystem problems
pre-owned bricks".
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25% is Denmark’s VAT rate.
They are VAT-registered in EU. They use BL’s VAT mechanism and they charge VAT
to EU buyers (at buyer’s rate).
For non-EU buyers, the VAT is set at 0% by BL’s VAT mechanism (as usual).
So, they are reapplying Denmark’s VAT rate to non-EU exports.
Thing is, IIUC, under the margin VAT scheme, the seller has more conditions to
meet to be able to export at 0% (time limit and paperwork).
So, maybe that’s their problem with the VAT mechanism: they can’t meet the 0%
conditions but they need to use BL’s mechanism for EU.
| | The bigger issue with that store seems to be that the shipping costs and fees
are not provided beforehand. No exact shipping costs visible in his terms or
during checkout so basicly he can charge whatever he wants.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Brickitty | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 15:31 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Help Desk Missing Ticket, rankster writes:
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I guess that insane extra fee has something to do with taxation of used products
since more than 94% of his items are used. The banners says "Vatsystem problems
pre-owned bricks".
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25% is Denmark’s VAT rate.
They are VAT-registered in EU. They use BL’s VAT mechanism and they charge VAT
to EU buyers (at buyer’s rate).
For non-EU buyers, the VAT is set at 0% by BL’s VAT mechanism (as usual).
So, they are reapplying Denmark’s VAT rate to non-EU exports.
Thing is, IIUC, under the margin VAT scheme, the seller has more conditions to
meet to be able to export at 0% (time limit and paperwork).
So, maybe that’s their problem with the VAT mechanism: they can’t meet the 0%
conditions but they need to use BL’s mechanism for EU.
| | The bigger issue with that store seems to be that the shipping costs and fees
are not provided beforehand. No exact shipping costs visible in his terms or
during checkout so basicly he can charge whatever he wants.
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I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand VAT, but why is this being charged
to the buyer? When I ordered from this seller, I was charged tax at the full
Colorado, USA rate. Why should I have to pay VAT in addition to tax? And not
only that, but pay VAT on the tax I already paid? I made a $105 order that turned
into $178 after shipping, tax, 10% handling, and the 25% charge. That's absolutely
ridiculous. And to rankster's point, I believe that the seller is overcharging
shipping too, since the same weight, same postal service, same package size is
significantly cheaper from other Danish sellers.
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, Brickitty writes:
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| | 25% is Denmark’s VAT rate.
They are VAT-registered in EU. They use BL’s VAT mechanism and they charge VAT
to EU buyers (at buyer’s rate).
For non-EU buyers, the VAT is set at 0% by BL’s VAT mechanism (as usual).
So, they are reapplying Denmark’s VAT rate to non-EU exports.
Thing is, IIUC, under the margin VAT scheme, the seller has more conditions to
meet to be able to export at 0% (time limit and paperwork).
So, maybe that’s their problem with the VAT mechanism: they can’t meet the 0%
conditions but they need to use BL’s mechanism for EU.
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I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand VAT, but why is this being charged
to the buyer? When I ordered from this seller, I was charged tax at the full
Colorado, USA rate. Why should I have to pay VAT in addition to tax?
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Double-taxing: Denmark’s VAT is due to Denmark. Colorado’s sales tax is due
to Colorado. Two different, independant entities that each charge the taxes
they want.
I think we see here the effect of the difference between sales tax and VAT:
— Sales tax is levied on the final buyer only.
— VAT is levied every steps of the way to the final buyer. One could say it’s
due by the seller and only transfered to the buyer.
Anything you sell, you owe VAT on it. (And if you’re registered, anything you
buy, you can get its VAT refunded.)
Under certain conditions (exportation or selling to a VAT-registered buyer),
the seller can reduce the rate to 0%.
But even in the “normal” VAT scheme (that is, not margin scheme), if the seller
can’t prove they exported the product, they need to remitt the VAT. So they
need to collect it first.
In the margin scheme, the conditions seem to be harsher, so this store can’t
reduce the rate to 0%. So they need to remitt 20% of their total (1 - 1/1.25
= 0.2 = 20%) as VAT, so they need to collect it.
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Yeah, that’s not right: it should be the other way around. You should pay Sales
tax on the VAT.
What is exported from Denmark is ($105 + shipping & handling) + 25% VAT. And
that total should be taxed by Colorado as being sold to you, in Colorado.
But the way the fees work on BL make it work the wrong way.
(Doesn’t change anything to you at it’s all commutative multiplications. But
I’m not sure Colorado likes it.)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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are not provided beforehand. No exact shipping costs visible in his terms or
during checkout so basicly he can charge whatever he wants.
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I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand VAT, but why is this being charged
to the buyer?
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What? VAT? Denmark? Europe? Colorado? USA?
I really don't get what you're talking about and who is who and who is
where.
If you order from Colorado to anyone in Europe, NO, there's no VAT involved.
AT ALL.
There may be YOUR Sales Taxes, but it's another subject.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 17:23 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, 1001bricks writes:
| | What? VAT? Denmark? Europe? Colorado? USA?
I really don't get what you're talking about and who is who and who is
where.
If you order from Colorado to anyone in Europe, NO, there's no VAT involved.
AT ALL.
There may be YOUR Sales Taxes, but it's another subject.
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The problem as I understand it is that the store uses the margin scheme? One
way around the issue would be to, I dunno, not sell outside the EU?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 17:49 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | | | If you order from Colorado to anyone in Europe, NO, there's no VAT involved.
AT ALL.
There may be YOUR Sales Taxes, but it's another subject.
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The problem as I understand it is that the store uses the margin scheme? One
way around the issue would be to, I dunno, not sell outside the EU?
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^ this
It's far too complicated. BrickLink is NOT designed for margin scheme, seller
may not understand all the laws and what he's to invoice, and his accounting
people will probably have another opinion 
Too much work and uncertainity for probably nothing significant.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | EmblaRonja | | Posted: | Mar 27, 2023 02:52 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 94 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| No and yes.
The store does not use margin scheme it’s VAT registered. But the problem is
margin scheme related anyway.
When you sell NEW items and are VAT registered there’s no problem as you are
able to deduct VAT on all stock you puts in to the store.
If you sell USED items in a VAT registered store you pay full VAT without having
any VAT from your purchases to deduct. Effectively you pay double VAT compared
to the store selling NEW items.
To be fair and equal the tax between selling NEW and USED in EU we have the margin
scheme. Selling used then gives you exactly the same VAT taxes as the store selling
new.
But.
BrickLink does not support Margin scheme, instead the non VAT registered store
are seen as “private seller” that are not allowed to sell for more than 10 000
euro/year (EU-sales). Once the store reaches that threshold BrickLink shuts down
it’s selling abilities to EU countries for the rest of that year.
What this Danish seller are doing is to sell USED, registered to VAT so that
the store won’t be shut down at the threshold, and also adding 25 % on price
to level out the tax situation with stores selling NEW.
Not the best solution maybe, but we are many USED sellers in the EU that are
struggle with the fact that there are rules in EU to equal competition between
selling NEW versus USED - but BrickLink don’t letting us use them.
/Niclas
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 17:31 | | Subject: | Re: Store suspended due to FEE Avoidance? | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help Desk Missing Ticket, 1001bricks writes:
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What? VAT? Denmark? Europe? Colorado? USA?
I really don't get what you're talking about and who is who and who is
where.
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Maybe time to go see an optometrist?
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USA, California
United Kingdom, England
Canada, Ontario
France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Austria, Wien
Sweden, Västra Götaland