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| | | Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2023 17:19 | | Subject: | Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 181 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Completed | |
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| I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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| | | | | Author: | seti587 | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2023 21:09 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | | Posted: | Jan 24, 2023 21:25 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, seti587 writes:
| | I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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I see that now. Good eye!
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| | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 04:35 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, seti587 writes:
| | I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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Three out of five keys? And type consistent with the color nuance? I do not believe
you're right.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 05:10 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Looks like it is a variation to me, the one on the right in photo seems to be
in good condition and shows the starlike opening.
In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, seti587 writes:
| | I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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Three out of five keys? And type consistent with the color nuance? I do not believe
you're right.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 14:41 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, seti587 writes:
| | I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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Three out of five keys? And type consistent with the color nuance? I do not believe
you're right.
/Jan
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Yeah, they are molded like that all the way to the bottom, so the mold is definitely
intentional. I think a comparison image and an additional note are enough for
this. Would you please submit a nice comparison image, Jan?
Thanks,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 07:52 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, seti587 writes:
| | I think the top one is actually a square key that was placed onto a smaller square
than is in the motor and then rounded off. Four of the points are mostly square
and four are round. I've been a mechanic for 26 years and I've seen this
sort of thing a lot.
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That could be possible, but not all the way inside….
Looks intentionally made.
Maxx
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| | | | | Author: | WoutR | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 05:13 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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It looks intentional to me. It makes it easier to position the key.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 05:40 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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It looks intentional to me. It makes it easier to position the key.
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And the hole is straight until the end in all sides.
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| | | | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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It looks intentional to me. It makes it easier to position the key.
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Look intentional to me too, mainly because of the lead-in chamfer.
It's a double square socket.
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| | | | | Author: | Fragty | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 09:05 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Must be intentional.
I have 5 of these - one is red, and four 'rust'
The red one has a square hole.
All four rust have star shaped holes.
Never noticed that before.
Maybe when they changed the material, they also changed the mold?
I personally wouldnt make a new catalog entry, but add a comment/picture on the
existing one.
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| | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 10:33 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Fragty writes:
| | Must be intentional.
I have 5 of these - one is red, and four 'rust'
The red one has a square hole.
All four rust have star shaped holes.
Never noticed that before.
Maybe when they changed the material, they also changed the mold?
I personally wouldnt make a new catalog entry, but add a comment/picture on the
existing one.
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+1
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| | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2023 10:42 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 183 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, Fragty writes:
| | Must be intentional.
I have 5 of these - one is red, and four 'rust'
The red one has a square hole.
All four rust have star shaped holes.
Never noticed that before.
Maybe when they changed the material, they also changed the mold?
I personally wouldnt make a new catalog entry, but add a comment/picture on the
existing one.
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So your findings are consistent with mine. Rusty keys are double-squared, red
keys are single squared.
/Jan
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2023 08:22 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| | | So your findings are consistent with mine. Rusty keys are double-squared, red
keys are single squared.
/Jan
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I just found a true red with double-squared hole today. So no consistency between
type and color. 
/Jan
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2023 14:25 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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An additional note and a comparison image have been added to the part.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 27, 2023 17:21 | | Subject: | Re: Two versions of bb0047 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| Thank you. 👍
In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | I have found two different versions of
One has rectangular hole, one has star-shaped (8 points) hole. Of the 5 keys
in my possession, the two of the former are red, the three of the latter are
"rusty" red.
I have only one wind-up motor, and its key hole is rectangular. Both key types
work with it. Whether a motor with star-shaped hole is unknown to me.
Should the keys be split into to new parts?
/Jan
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An additional note and a comparison image have been added to the part.
Cheers,
Randy
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