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 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 01:41
 Subject: Alternate or new catalog entry?
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jennnifer (3531)

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Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen
 
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 07:42
 Subject: Re: Alternate or new catalog entry?
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Turez (43)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

This has been pending for a few weeks, but we have not yet reached a consensus
on whether this should get a new entry.
What would be your opinion?
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 10:22
 Subject: Re: Alternate or new catalog entry?
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jennnifer (3531)

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In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  
This has been pending for a few weeks, but we have not yet reached a consensus
on whether this should get a new entry.
What would be your opinion?



Seller Me says: No more variants! (But, would a buyer who received both of these
in one lot get confused and think one was wrong?)

Collector Me says: Yes, you can see the difference so it's different! (But,
now I have to deal with a new pattern series for stickered counterparts and printed
variants... ugh.)

I am going with Seller Me on this one. The visual differences are internal. I
think an alternate number with a good comparison photo would be sufficient.

Thanks!
Jen
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 07:48
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Stellar (3485)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

Do the cross supports below change how this part can be attached to studs in
different ways?

Or does the bottom is lower and something can be put inside different?
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 10:34
 Subject: Re: Alternate or new catalog entry?
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jennnifer (3531)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
  
Do the cross supports below change how this part can be attached to studs in
different ways?

Not that I can tell but I am not a very creative builder.

  
Or does the bottom is lower and something can be put inside different?

Yes, potentially. Slightly.

I put a 1x1 Brick on its side in each one. The newer variant is on the right
side in this image.

Jen
 
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Jan 5, 2023 08:04
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infinibrix (4981)

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In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

Do the cross supports below change how this part can be attached to studs in
different ways?

Or does the bottom is lower and something can be put inside different?

That is the key thing because if there are minimal differences in appearance
and the functional use of the part is no different between them then I think
we should always put them in the same entry with a note and image of both variants
so that a buyer can ask should they require a specific variant or all of the
same as most buyers wouldn't care which they receive and I think the catalog
needs to cater for and work as efficiently as possible for the many rather than
the few!
However I think the same thing for all these types of variants including minifigure
heads with different stud types!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 08:46
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yorbrick (1182)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

Personally, I think they are different enough and visibly easy enough to separate
to have separate entries. Things like swords with thin and thick cross guards
but no functional difference get their own entries, so where these parts are
visibly different then separate them. If have have a load of these in a row in
a build, I want them all appear to be the same. If both types are mixed up in
one entry, you don't know what you are buying.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Jan 3, 2023 22:31
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Nubs_Select (3735)

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just found the same one in light bluish gray in set
 
Set No: 75319 Name: The Armorer’s Mandalorian Forge
* 		75319-1 (Inv) The Armorer’s Mandalorian Forge
237 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2021
Sets: Star Wars: Star Wars The Mandalorian
with the new part number 2821 on it
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jan 5, 2023 06:50
 Subject: Re: Alternate or new catalog entry?
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Turez (43)

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In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

Here's our decision:
 
Part No: 2821 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Raised Inner Bottom
* 		2821 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Raised Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

It would be great we could use your comparison image for both entries.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 5, 2023 08:35
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jennnifer (3531)

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In Catalog Requests, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, jennnifer writes:
  Hello,

Should this have a new catalog entry or an alternate number?

 
Part No: 35700 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
* 		35700 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Flat Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

I found this one molded 2821 in set

 
Set No: 41732 Name: Downtown Flower and Design Stores
* 		41732-1 (Inv) Downtown Flower and Design Stores
1976 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2023
Sets: Friends

It's compared here with 59121.

Thanks!
Jen

Here's our decision:
 
Part No: 2821 Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Raised Inner Bottom
* 		2821 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 1 - Top Opening with Raised Inner Bottom
Parts: Container

It would be great we could use your comparison image for both entries.

Sure thing! I cleaned it up and added the reference numbers.

Thank you,
Jen