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| | | Author: | LeeGo73  | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 09:50 | | Subject: | Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Can a handling fee be added to the available options in the shipping methods?
I would like to have a "payment process fee" with "Fixed + % of total
order" depending on the selected payment method. In my case paypal onsite.
Both the "fixed" and the "% of total order" should be allowed
to be zero.
The current option only allows for the "% of total order" part.
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | I would like to have a "payment process fee" with "Fixed + % of total
order" depending on the selected payment method. In my case paypal onsite.
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Are you sure this is allowed in the Netherlands?
Found in your PayPal Terms:
U mag alleen een toeslag voor het gebruik van onze services heffen in overeenstemming
met wetten die op u van toepassing zijn. Dergelijke toeslagen mogen niet hoger
zijn dan de toeslagen die u heft voor het gebruik van andere betaalmethoden.
Google translated:
You may only charge for the use of our services in accordance with laws that
apply to you. Such surcharges must not exceed the surcharges you charge for using
other payment methods.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 12:51 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I would like to have a "payment process fee" with "Fixed + % of total
order" depending on the selected payment method. In my case paypal onsite.
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Are you sure this is allowed in the Netherlands?
Found in your PayPal Terms:
U mag alleen een toeslag voor het gebruik van onze services heffen in overeenstemming
met wetten die op u van toepassing zijn. Dergelijke toeslagen mogen niet hoger
zijn dan de toeslagen die u heft voor het gebruik van andere betaalmethoden.
Google translated:
You may only charge for the use of our services in accordance with laws that
apply to you. Such surcharges must not exceed the surcharges you charge for using
other payment methods.
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Beware, PayPal is a sneaky lier.
E.g., in France, a payment processor (PayPal) is forbidden to limit the benificiary
(seller) from charging fees or from giving discounts for other payment methods
(art L112.11, Code monétaire et financier).
The second sentence of your quote does exactly that.
A similar sentence was in PayPal’s terms for France. Apparently, it’s not any
more (the law dates from 2009, the sentence was still in PP’s terms until recently),
but there’s still the same intent in the next section (“Présentation de PayPal”)
where they say you should treat PP the same way as other payment methods, including
fees.
That’s still illegal (and void) IMH-NAL-O.
So that second sentence might well be illegal in NL too.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | E.g., in France, a payment processor (PayPal) is forbidden to limit the benificiary
(seller) from charging fees or from giving discounts for other payment methods
(art L112.11, Code monétaire et financier).
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Yep, I know.
| | So that second sentence might well be illegal in NL too.
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Yes, this should be checked by a Netherlander who also can read legal terms...
But the fact is: I hate payment fees, and many buyers also 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 13:04 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
I know you know but others might not (know what you know, not might not know
that you know).
| | […]But the fact is: I hate payment fees, and many buyers also
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Yes, most¹ French do, including French law makers: art L112.12
(¹ There’s still a few French sellers who do have them… *sigh*)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I also don't like payment fees either, I prefer payment by IBAN.
But I don't have a minimum order amount or minimum lot amount (which I
don't like to see when I'm a buyer either). And it happens that I get
orders for 1 piece of 2ct. Paying 35ct to paypal would mean making a loss on
the order.
In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | E.g., in France, a payment processor (PayPal) is forbidden to limit the benificiary
(seller) from charging fees or from giving discounts for other payment methods
(art L112.11, Code monétaire et financier).
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Yep, I know.
| | So that second sentence might well be illegal in NL too.
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Yes, this should be checked by a Netherlander who also can read legal terms...
But the fact is: I hate payment fees, and many buyers also
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Dec 30, 2022 14:51 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I do treat all payment methods the same. Fees for payment methods are added as
they are charged to me. This also applies to IBAN. It just so happens that IBAN
fees are zero.
In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I would like to have a "payment process fee" with "Fixed + % of total
order" depending on the selected payment method. In my case paypal onsite.
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Are you sure this is allowed in the Netherlands?
Found in your PayPal Terms:
U mag alleen een toeslag voor het gebruik van onze services heffen in overeenstemming
met wetten die op u van toepassing zijn. Dergelijke toeslagen mogen niet hoger
zijn dan de toeslagen die u heft voor het gebruik van andere betaalmethoden.
Google translated:
You may only charge for the use of our services in accordance with laws that
apply to you. Such surcharges must not exceed the surcharges you charge for using
other payment methods.
|
Beware, PayPal is a sneaky lier.
E.g., in France, a payment processor (PayPal) is forbidden to limit the benificiary
(seller) from charging fees or from giving discounts for other payment methods
(art L112.11, Code monétaire et financier).
The second sentence of your quote does exactly that.
A similar sentence was in PayPal’s terms for France. Apparently, it’s not any
more (the law dates from 2009, the sentence was still in PP’s terms until recently),
but there’s still the same intent in the next section (“Présentation de PayPal”)
where they say you should treat PP the same way as other payment methods, including
fees.
That’s still illegal (and void) IMH-NAL-O.
So that second sentence might well be illegal in NL too.
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| | | | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2023 09:45 | | Subject: | Re: Add payment process fee in shipping method | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I would like to have a "payment process fee" with "Fixed + % of total
order" depending on the selected payment method. In my case paypal onsite.
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Are you sure this is allowed in the Netherlands?
Found in your PayPal Terms:
U mag alleen een toeslag voor het gebruik van onze services heffen in overeenstemming
met wetten die op u van toepassing zijn. Dergelijke toeslagen mogen niet hoger
zijn dan de toeslagen die u heft voor het gebruik van andere betaalmethoden.
Google translated:
You may only charge for the use of our services in accordance with laws that
apply to you. Such surcharges must not exceed the surcharges you charge for using
other payment methods.
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How about a 'Fixed + % of total" discount for a payment method?
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Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
