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 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 09:47
 Subject: Paper bags arrived - what to do?
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Leftoverbricks (2437)

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Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?
 Author: jgrossman1025 View Messages Posted By jgrossman1025
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 09:56
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?

I think that would be amazing.... I always take sets and when i a done with them
reseal them in numbered bags for resale, or to keep for the future, so this would
make that easier for sellers and collectors.

Thanks, noah
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 10:11
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?

Creating inventories of each separate bag is not really feasible. Each bag would
exponentially increase the amount of time and work necessary to complete the
set inventory. With no LEGO data to work from to seed each inventory, it would
be a nightmare.

Jen
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 10:41
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Leftoverbricks (2437)

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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?

Creating inventories of each separate bag is not really feasible. Each bag would
exponentially increase the amount of time and work necessary to complete the
set inventory. With no LEGO data to work from to seed each inventory, it would
be a nightmare.

Jen

I agree with you on that aspect Jen.

In the discussion at Brickset member darkstonegrey made a noteworthy comment
from which I quote:

"And of course this change is going to make verifying second-hand open box sealed
bag sets very difficult unless one of those numbers/QR code actually indicates
what parts are contained inside these new bags and TLG maintains an indexed web
site / download somewhere to allow easy look up of that info
" Underlining
by me.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 11:43
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Nubs_Select (4767)

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  Creating inventories of each separate bag is not really feasible. Each bag would
exponentially increase the amount of time and work necessary to complete the
set inventory. With no LEGO data to work from to seed each inventory, it would
be a nightmare.

Jen

+1
 Author: jgrossman1025 View Messages Posted By jgrossman1025
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 13:08
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?

I think it would be nice to be able to do, but don't think it would be a
fast process..

Thanks, Noah
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 14:31
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Turez (47)

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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

I don't see any set number on these new paper bags.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 14:40
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

I don't see any set number on these new paper bags.

Brickset says it's a manufacturing code, not the set number.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 15:01
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In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Now that paper bags have arrived in sets - how to deal with this?
https://brickset.com/article/84168/paper-bags-are-here-at-last!

From the pictures Huw made it is clear that each paper bag contains the set number
and a unique 7-digit number identifying the bag.

This would make it possible to describe a set further by mentioning the numbers
of the bags inside the sets.

It would also be possible to make sub-inventories of sets based on the contents
of the paper bags, something buyers would be keen of (I think).

Your thoughts?


Unless our admin team grows in size, I don't see how we would be able to
handle the extra workload or administration of doing something like this.
Also, I don't see any set numbers on any of the bags, just material handling
numbers (the seven digit codes) and production codes.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 15:04
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Also, I don't see any set numbers on any of the bags, just material handling
numbers (the seven digit codes) and production codes.

In that case, I'd like to see us work out a way to connect those handling
numbers to the set catalog pages where someone would be able to do a search with
the number they found on a bag and find what set a bag that they've found
belongs to. It will be much harder, going forward, to identify a bag that has
gotten away from its set.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 15:19
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randyf (448)

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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Also, I don't see any set numbers on any of the bags, just material handling
numbers (the seven digit codes) and production codes.

In that case, I'd like to see us work out a way to connect those handling
numbers to the set catalog pages where someone would be able to do a search with
the number they found on a bag and find what set a bag that they've found
belongs to. It will be much harder, going forward, to identify a bag that has
gotten away from its set.


That would be nice. Good luck getting any development time from the BrickLink
team to do something like that. Even additional notes aren't searchable,
and we have asked for that for years.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Oct 28, 2022 15:39
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  Also, I don't see any set numbers on any of the bags, just material handling
numbers (the seven digit codes) and production codes.

In that case, I'd like to see us work out a way to connect those handling
numbers to the set catalog pages where someone would be able to do a search with
the number they found on a bag and find what set a bag that they've found
belongs to. It will be much harder, going forward, to identify a bag that has
gotten away from its set.


That would be nice. Good luck getting any development time from the BrickLink
team to do something like that. Even additional notes aren't searchable,
and we have asked for that for years.

Would it be worth while to add it as a counter part or alternate item in the
inventory so that it can have an association. I'm not sure the alternate
item works since it wouldn't be tied to another part, but just getting it
into the inventory would help make it searchable.
 Author: Poncke View Messages Posted By Poncke
 Posted: Oct 29, 2022 14:32
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No more stealin' and resealin'
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Oct 30, 2022 12:59
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In Catalog, Poncke writes:
  No more stealin' and resealin'

I think you underestimate the creativity of thieves. I hope you are right, but
if it is valuable enough a thief will find a way, sadly.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Oct 30, 2022 14:01
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In Catalog, macebobo writes:
  In Catalog, Poncke writes:
  No more stealin' and resealin'

I think you underestimate the creativity of thieves. I hope you are right, but
if it is valuable enough a thief will find a way, sadly.

From the article on Brickset:
“It has a very thin plastic layer on the inside face to further strengthen it,
to enable it to be heat sealed and also, I suspect, to prevent the pieces inside
from getting scratched on the relatively abrasive paper surface. However, we
were assured that the small amount of plastic does not prevent it from being
recycled with other cardboard and paper waste.”

Heat sealed.
So heat unsealed or carefuly opened then heat re-sealed?