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 Author: SumFunLegoFan View Messages Posted By SumFunLegoFan
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If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..
 Author: donja_nl View Messages Posted By donja_nl
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Here you can find it all.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
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In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

There is no 'Mint' on our site. There is NEW which means it has never
been used, played with, or displayed. There is USED which is everything else.

If you took your minifig directly from LEGO packaging, then it is NEW.

It doesn't matter how pretty or perfect a part or set is, if it has been
built, etc, it is not NEW.

Jen
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
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In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.
 Author: 1974 View Messages Posted By 1974
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In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:

  If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

Nope, built is fine, display not so (but that is impossible to enforce)

New Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or
were purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either
assembled or unassembled.

Cheers,

Ole
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Feedback, 1974 writes:
  In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:

  If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

Nope, built is fine, display not so (but that is impossible to enforce)

New Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or
were purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either
assembled or unassembled.

IIRC Russell clarified that (1) minifigures that are not assembled out of the
box can be assembled and (2) minifigures that come factory assembled can be disassembled,
and sold as New.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  New Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or
were purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either
assembled or unassembled.

IIRC Russell clarified that (1) minifigures that are not assembled out of the
box can be assembled and (2) minifigures that come factory assembled can be disassembled,
and sold as New.

In 2022 I still don't understand why:

* assembling Minifigures is allowed (why not Sets?),

* people WISH to assemble Minfigs (when not from Factory), and why they like
to "play" with the buyer's items.

Personnaly I won't buy assembled Minifigs.

Also - and still in 2022, some sellers assemble parts for stocking or shipping,
making big heavy compact 4x6 Plates blocks (yes, seen this!!!) that makes even
more damages and can take an hour to disassemble the whole order, wearing white
gloves
I hate this.

Those fly directly to my Least Fav.
 Author: 1974 View Messages Posted By 1974
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In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:

  In 2022 I still don't understand why:

* assembling Minifigures is allowed (why not Sets?),

Because in some sets the minifigs are allready assembled. No choice really
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In Feedback, 1974 writes:
  In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:

  In 2022 I still don't understand why:

* assembling Minifigures is allowed (why not Sets?),

Because in some sets the minifigs are allready assembled. No choice really

Then allow already known assembled ones (must be rare) to be sold New.
But NOT to assemble the others.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  New Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or
were purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either
assembled or unassembled.

IIRC Russell clarified that (1) minifigures that are not assembled out of the
box can be assembled and (2) minifigures that come factory assembled can be disassembled,
and sold as New.

In 2022 I still don't understand why:

Since it’s almost 2023

  
* assembling Minifigures is allowed (why not Sets?),


But there is a difference. 3-4 parts connected (most cases) won’t get moved around
or damaged in shipping as opposed to sets which would break apart, etc

  * people WISH to assemble Minfigs (when not from Factory), and why they like
to "play" with the buyer's items.

It has multiple benefits for some storage systems. Mine I have hundreds of different
minifigure in the same container and if they weren’t assembled I wouldn’t be
able to find them.

  
Personnaly I won't buy assembled Minifigs.

Personal preference I guess. I can’t say I’ve ever had a problem shipping figures
assembled and I’ve received many assembled and haven’t had a problem with buyers
either. If anything if they are assembled they are less likely to get damaged
in shipping since the parts can’t move around and hit each other during shipping.

  Also - and still in 2022, some sellers assemble parts for stocking or shipping,
making big heavy compact 4x6 Plates blocks (yes, seen this!!!) that makes even
more damages and can take an hour to disassemble the whole order, wearing white
gloves
I hate this.

That is crazy and I agree. If you have to assemble new bricks to ship it out
always ask they buyer first since most won’t approve and will pay what it would
normally cost to ship it.

  
Those fly directly to my Least Fav.

I would do the same. People who assemble new bricks (especially plates) are physcopaths
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In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  It has multiple benefits for some storage systems. Mine I have hundreds of different
minifigure in the same container and if they weren’t assembled I wouldn’t be
able to find them.

From your own terms: Minifigures new and used are assembled and placed into individual
bags excluding some animals and some non-standard figures.

Why would you need to assemble them if they are bagged?

I look at it like this, you are bound to turn off some people by assembling figures
(proof above) and exactly how many people are going to be bothered by having
to assemble the figure they purchased?
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In Feedback, randyipp writes:
  In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  It has multiple benefits for some storage systems. Mine I have hundreds of different
minifigure in the same container and if they weren’t assembled I wouldn’t be
able to find them.

From your own terms: Minifigures new and used are assembled and placed into individual
bags excluding some animals and some non-standard figures.

Why would you need to assemble them if they are bagged?

For identification, on many occasions when listing from new sets that have lots
of different figures Ive noticed that if I didn’t assemble them then I would
have stored them incorrect with a part misidentified (head, torso, etc) but during
assembly I’ve caught those errors and prevented future problems

  
I look at it like this, you are bound to turn off some people by assembling figures
(proof above) and exactly how many people are going to be bothered by having
to assemble the figure they purchased?

I can’t say I’ve lost out on that many sales and I can’t say I’ve had any complaints
about it so I’d say other than for a smaller community of people the majority
of people don’t mind if it’s assembled, unassembled, or carved out of rock, so
for the most part I don’t think I’ve lost that many customers . But also the
lost customers that has always been something thats confusing to me since (sorry
if I butcher the explanation and confuse you) but if I don’t sell something to
someone in an order, than eventually someone else will come along and purchase
that item and eventually the same will happen for every item in the order, some
new orders might even be placed which in the end equal more since the first order
never happened.
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In Feedback, randyipp writes:
  Why would you need to assemble them if they are bagged?

The parts can definitely rub together in the bag. Now I don't assemble new
minifigures but I totally understand why a seller might do so.
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In Feedback, randyipp writes:
  In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  It has multiple benefits for some storage systems. Mine I have hundreds of different
minifigure in the same container and if they weren’t assembled I wouldn’t be
able to find them.

From your own terms: Minifigures new and used are assembled and placed into individual
bags excluding some animals and some non-standard figures.

Why would you need to assemble them if they are bagged?

Yep - makes no sense.
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Ummm... so they don’t rub against each other? Unless (and I’m pretty sure I’ve
seen it before) you do what some people do and individually bag each piece of
the minifigure which it phycotic (except for rare/expensive figures)
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In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  Ummm... so they don’t rub against each other? Unless (and I’m pretty sure I’ve
seen it before) you do what some people do and individually bag each piece of
the minifigure which it phycotic (except for rare/expensive figures)

I think that depends how you store and manipulate your bags afterward.

If you put them all loose in a big box and need to stir them to find one, then
yes, they’ll rub.
If they are neatly stored and easy to reach without moving them, then no.
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I store assembled figures in a large(ish) plastic shoe boxes which can fit several
hundred figures. When looking for the needed figure they get moved around, sometime
poured out onto a tray(not aggressively so it dosnt damage it) etc,
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In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  Ummm... so they don’t rub against each other? Unless (and I’m pretty sure I’ve
seen it before) you do what some people do and individually bag each piece of
the minifigure which it phycotic (except for rare/expensive figures)

I think the rubbing part (ooo-er) is way less for one minifig-in-parts in its
own little baggie then it is for a new off-the-shelf LEGO set where minifig parts
are mixed in with other sharp-edged parts in larger bags.

When we put a minifig from a new set into our inventory, we put all the relevant
parts of the fig in its onw little baggie. It does not get disturbed again until
we grab that baggie from storage and ship it out. Because the baggie is way smaller
(like a 3"x2"), the parts don't have much "freedom" (if any) to do any rubbing,
even while in transport.

Niek.
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In Feedback, qwertyboy writes:
  In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  Ummm... so they don’t rub against each other? Unless (and I’m pretty sure I’ve
seen it before) you do what some people do and individually bag each piece of
the minifigure which it phycotic (except for rare/expensive figures)

I think the rubbing part (ooo-er) is way less for one minifig-in-parts in its
own little baggie then it is for a new off-the-shelf LEGO set where minifig parts
are mixed in with other sharp-edged parts in larger bags.

When we put a minifig from a new set into our inventory, we put all the relevant
parts of the fig in its onw little baggie. It does not get disturbed again until
we grab that baggie from storage and ship it out. Because the baggie is way smaller
(like a 3"x2"), the parts don't have much "freedom" (if any) to do any rubbing,
even while in transport.

Niek.

I guess it’s more of personal preference ultimately
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  I guess it’s more of personal preference ultimately

No - it's BrickLink's Terms having a problem.
Assembling Sets is wrong.
Assembling Minifigs is right.

I'd more follow the Items Condition Terms: assembled = not New.
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  Assembling Sets is wrong.
Assembling Minifigs is right.

As it should be
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In Feedback, Nubs_Select writes:
  
  Assembling Sets is wrong.
Assembling Minifigs is right.

As it should be

I always worry about leaving minifigs assembled... even used ones. Isn't
the torso more likely to develop cracks with legs attached?

Jen
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In Feedback, jennnifer writes:
  I always worry about leaving minifigs assembled... even used ones. Isn't
the torso more likely to develop cracks with legs attached?

OTOH, if you sell a used minifigure unassembled and the torso cracks when the
buyer first assembles it?

Not saying that there's a clear right or wrong answer, just that there's
always some other consideration. In my own store, new minifigures are unassembled
(unless factory assembled) and used are assembled. I did have one case where
I sold a new, but older, minifigure that was already partially assembled (head
on the torso as in the old days).
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  Not saying that there's a clear right or wrong answer, just that there's
always some other consideration. In my own store, new minifigures are unassembled
(unless factory assembled) and used are assembled.

I do the same. I keep new and used separate anyway, but it is a useful internal
check that I have picked the correct condition. If it is assembled it is used,
unassembled means new. The few I have that are new assembled, I make a note or
put an N on the bag.
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I've heard it can but only over extremely long periods of time (many decades)
and not even every time as I think temperature has something to do with it also
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  I would do the same. People who assemble new bricks (especially plates) are physcopaths

Agreed - but the same for Minifigs
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In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:
  
  I would do the same. People who assemble new bricks (especially plates) are physcopaths

Agreed - but the same for Minifigs

So, your buyers are psychopaths?  Because I’m pretty sure a lot them will assemble
the bricks and minifigures they bought
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In Feedback, SylvainLS writes:
  In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:
  
  I would do the same. People who assemble new bricks (especially plates) are physcopaths

Agreed - but the same for Minifigs

So, your buyers are psychopaths?  Because I’m pretty sure a lot them will assemble
the bricks and minifigures they bought


People buy LEGO to be able to have the pleasure to successfully assemble kits
themselves.

This kit or an other one; they wish to decide what to do of those parts.

If I buy this Minifig, it may be to use some of the parts to do something else.
It'd be stupid to get them assembled, THEN have to disasemble them.

It's just "stacked for shipping", silly IMO.
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In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:
  In Feedback, SylvainLS writes:
  In Feedback, 1001bricks writes:
  
  I would do the same. People who assemble new bricks (especially plates) are physcopaths

Agreed - but the same for Minifigs

So, your buyers are psychopaths?  Because I’m pretty sure a lot them will assemble
the bricks and minifigures they bought


People buy LEGO to be able to have the pleasure to successfully assemble kits
themselves.

This kit or an other one; they wish to decide what to do of those parts.

If I buy this Minifig, it may be to use some of the parts to do something else.
It'd be stupid to get them assembled, THEN have to disasemble them.

It's just "stacked for shipping", silly IMO.

Agreed totally.  I was just making fun of the blanket statement
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In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

a miniFIGURE only becomes a miniFIGURE after it has been assembled,not before..then
its a set,puzzle,parts....but not a minifigure Yet....like to buy my new car
assembled too
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In Feedback, popsicle writes:
  In Feedback, briky writes:
  In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

a miniFIGURE only becomes a miniFIGURE after it has been assembled,not before..then
its a set,puzzle,parts....but not a minifigure Yet....like to buy my new car
assembled too

Good analogy, except for one glaring oversight.

Unlike a "new car" purchase, we buy Lego for the expressed purpose of assembling,
the process itself. Otherwise, Lego would cease to be a building toy and would
mainly sell assembled sets, including minifigures therein.


Not every shop on bl is the same Cory...mine mainly sells minifigures...a separate
category in the inventory...and I sell them as presented in the bricklink catalog...very
handy when you have many look alikes with minor differences...of course those
who want to constuct can buy pieces or sets.
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In Feedback, briky writes:
  In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

a miniFIGURE only becomes a miniFIGURE after it has been assembled,not before..then
its a set,puzzle,parts....but not a minifigure Yet....like to buy my new car
assembled too

If you were to go to the LEGO store, would you ask "Do you have the Chevrolet
Camaro Z28", or ask "Do you have the set of parts to build a Chevrolet Camaro
Z28"? If you ask the former question, and they show up with a new box for set
10304, would you then complain that you asked for the car, not its building parts
and instructions?

Semantics are just that - semantics. They don't bear relevancy on this particular
issue.

Niek.
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In Feedback, qwertyboy writes:
  In Feedback, briky writes:
  In Feedback, Biglesdug writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

If a minifigure has been built and only display it is still used.

a miniFIGURE only becomes a miniFIGURE after it has been assembled,not before..then
its a set,puzzle,parts....but not a minifigure Yet....like to buy my new car
assembled too

If you were to go to the LEGO store, would you ask "Do you have the Chevrolet
Camaro Z28", or ask "Do you have the set of parts to build a Chevrolet Camaro
Z28"? If you ask the former question, and they show up with a new box for set
10304, would you then complain that you asked for the car, not its building parts
and instructions?

Semantics are just that - semantics. They don't bear relevancy on this particular
issue.




Never went to a legoshop to buy a car...I go to a car dealer for that...so your
answer is quite moot...You are mixing up sets and minifigures....like apples
and oranges.
  
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In Feedback, briky writes:
  In Feedback, qwertyboy writes:
  In Feedback, briky writes:
  a miniFIGURE only becomes a miniFIGURE after it has been assembled,not before..then
its a set,puzzle,parts....but not a minifigure Yet....like to buy my new car
assembled too

  
  If you were to go to the LEGO store, would you ask "Do you have the Chevrolet
Camaro Z28", or ask "Do you have the set of parts to build a Chevrolet Camaro
Z28"? If you ask the former question, and they show up with a new box for set
10304, would you then complain that you asked for the car, not its building parts
and instructions?

Semantics are just that - semantics. They don't bear relevancy on this particular
issue.

  Never went to a legoshop to buy a car...I go to a car dealer for that...so your
answer is quite moot...You are mixing up sets and minifigures....like apples
and oranges.

Uhmmmm - my "apples and oranges" (both LEGO products) are actually way closer
related than your "apples and oranges" (a LEGO minifigure and a new car you buy).
So is your answer "quite moot" as well?

Niek.
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Of course then there’s the stores that describe their hundreds of 30+ year old
“new” figures as “pristine”.

Not sure how to take that one.

😮

In Feedback, popsicle writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT, can I consider it new?

The use of adjectives such as “Mint, Pristine, Flawless, Perfect, etc” to better
describe with more accuracy the true condition, is a good thing imho. Just as
the proper use of adjectives would be to better describe the honest condition
of flawed/damaged/worn items.

However terms "Like-new or As New" as descriptors can add confusion
to a listing (I assume is the reasoning applied) and therefore discouraged
within the TOS.

“Please do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description
of any item, regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED”



  If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

Take a look at some of the responses you received in attempts #1 #2 and here.
Not many will send a direct message, if that's what you're expecting?
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  The only instance I've ever felt comfortable in using such terms in sales,
is with our certified/graded trading cards we're selling. And not even with
all grading companies either, PSA only. Otherwise I steer clear of using such
absolute terms in sales.

Thats the only good one (for the most part/that I know of) I've seen what
other companies call good and stuff and they are very unreliable
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Totally agree with underselling. I rarely ever go higher than a “good condition”
description anymore.


In Feedback, popsicle writes:
  In Feedback, rab1234 writes:
  Of course then there’s the stores that describe their hundreds of 30+ year old
“new” figures as “pristine”.

Not sure how to take that one.

Not a mystery...

That’s the rub when using such adjectives or descriptors, they’re subjective
in nature. It’s why they say that vendors should under-pitch, rather than use
such absolutes in sales. Every expectation of "pristine" condition, is unique.

The only instance I've ever felt comfortable in using such terms in sales,
is with our certified/graded trading cards we're selling. And not even with
all grading companies either, PSA only. Otherwise I steer clear of using such
absolute terms in sales.

  
In Feedback, popsicle writes:
  In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT, can I consider it new?

The use of adjectives such as “Mint, Pristine, Flawless, Perfect, etc” to better
describe with more accuracy the true condition, is a good thing imho. Just as
the proper use of adjectives would be to better describe the honest condition
of flawed/damaged/worn items.

However terms "Like-new or As New" as descriptors can add confusion
to a listing (I assume is the reasoning applied) and therefore discouraged
within the TOS.

“Please do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description
of any item, regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED”



  If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

Take a look at some of the responses you received in attempts #1 #2 and here.
Not many will send a direct message, if that's what you're expecting?
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In Feedback, popsicle writes:
  
Not a mystery...

That’s the rub when using such adjectives or descriptors, they’re subjective
in nature. It’s why they say that vendors should under-pitch, rather than use
such absolutes in sales. Every expectation of "pristine" condition, is unique.

The only instance I've ever felt comfortable in using such terms in sales,
is with our certified/graded trading cards we're selling. And not even with
all grading companies either, PSA only. Otherwise I steer clear of using such
absolute terms in sales.

Tell me about it... People often think their stuff is "like new". They have
an issue where they can't be objective over their own items. I drove 70
miles to get some "absolutely brand new" rims and then see these marks on almost
every spoke and this rash. I didn't even need them to be perfect, but I
felt let down after that description.
 
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This is the 4th time you’ve asked this? Are you expecting rules to change?
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In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?
If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

I find all the hoopla about new and used, especially minifigures. If they are
put together and there is no damage, who really cares? New=undamaged and undamaged
used does not equal new. When I sold I went by BL rules. Almost all of my elements
were sold as used. Even the thousands I put into my used brick listing were
new.
Much ado about nothing.

John P
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  If someone can please message or comment back, this is #3 trying to grab feedback
or help and haven’t gotten a thing..

Yes, it is the third time you asked the same thing. You dud get replies before,
and just because they were not the reply you might have wanted doesn't mean
they were nothing.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?overTP=Y&q=&qS=Y&qM=Y&msgID=&uName=SumFunLegoFan&ID=&status=&v=c&max=50
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In Feedback, SumFunLegoFan writes:
  If a Minifigure is in MINT condition or a set along with whatever else comes
in the set are MINT,
Can I consider it new?

Okay, Thanks everyone. As I got a lot of mixed feedback but I will make note
and remember it.