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| | | Author: | Admin_Russell  | | Posted: | Jul 29, 2022 19:55 | | Subject: | Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 776 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| To all French buyers,
Beginning in July 2021, all marketplaces were required to recover VAT charges
for any purchases under EUR 150 coming from outside the EU.
This year in France, this rule was expanded to include all imports from outside
the EU, specifically on purchases above EUR 150.
The question we have is:
Based on your experience, are customs authorities collecting VAT on imports
valued over EUR 150 that have shipped during this year (2022)?
We are reaching out directly to several French buyers on BrickLink for their
input, but we also wanted to ask this question to French buyers who happen to
be in the Forum. Please add your reply to this thread.
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 29, 2022 20:45 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 119 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | Brick_Qc | | Posted: | Jul 29, 2022 23:45 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 112 times | | Topic: | LANG Français | |
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| In Administrative, popsicle writes:
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A tous les acheteurs français,
À partir de juillet 2021, tout les marchés enligne étaient tenues de récupérer
les frais de TVA (VAT) pour tout achat inférieur à 150 EUR provenant de l'extérieur
de l'UE.
Cette année en France, cette règle a été élargie à toutes les importations en
provenance de l'extérieur de l'UE, en particulier pour les achats supérieurs
à 150 EUR.
La question que nous avons est :
D'après votre expérience, les autorités douanières perçoivent-elles la TVA
sur les importations d'une valeur de plus de 150 EUR qui ont été expédiés
au cours de cette année (2022) ?
Nous contactons directement plusieurs acheteurs français sur BrickLink pour leur
contribution, mais nous voulions également poser cette question aux acheteurs
français qui
être dans le Forum. Veuillez ajouter votre réponse à ce fil.
Merci,
L'équipe Brick Link
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 10:03 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | LANG Français | |
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| In LANG Français, Brick_Qc writes:
| | In Administrative, popsicle writes:
| | Maybe post the query in French as well?
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A tous les acheteurs français,
À partir de juillet 2021, tout les marchés enligne étaient tenues de récupérer
les frais de TVA (VAT) pour tout achat inférieur à 150 EUR provenant de l'extérieur
de l'UE.
Cette année en France, cette règle a été élargie à toutes les importations en
provenance de l'extérieur de l'UE, en particulier pour les achats supérieurs
à 150 EUR.
La question que nous avons est :
D'après votre expérience, les autorités douanières perçoivent-elles la TVA
sur les importations d'une valeur de plus de 150 EUR qui ont été expédiés
au cours de cette année (2022) ?
Nous contactons directement plusieurs acheteurs français sur BrickLink pour leur
contribution, mais nous voulions également poser cette question aux acheteurs
français qui
être dans le Forum. Veuillez ajouter votre réponse à ce fil.
Merci,
L'équipe Brick Link
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Very considerate of you. Well done.
-Thanks
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 00:42 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To all French buyers,
Beginning in July 2021, all marketplaces were required to recover VAT charges
for any purchases under EUR 150 coming from outside the EU.
This year in France, this rule was expanded to include all imports from outside
the EU, specifically on purchases above EUR 150.
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Er, are you sure? I didn’t find any text about that.
All I found concerns changes for French businesses, not a change in the IOSS
scheme.
The official sites still have the 2021 rules for marketplaces.
| | The question we have is:
Based on your experience, are customs authorities collecting VAT on imports
valued over EUR 150 that have shipped during this year (2022)?
We are reaching out directly to several French buyers on BrickLink for their
input, but we also wanted to ask this question to French buyers who happen to
be in the Forum. Please add your reply to this thread.
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | | | Beginning in July 2021, all marketplaces were required to recover VAT charges
for any purchases under EUR 150 coming from outside the EU.
This year in France, this rule was expanded to include all imports from outside
the EU, specifically on purchases above EUR 150.
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Er, are you sure? I didn’t find any text about that.
All I found concerns changes for French businesses, not a change in the IOSS
scheme.
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Same here, that seems bizarre - I know we're different Countries, but this
I/OSS thing is EU wide I guess, so I'm not sure why we'd French act differently
(apart being the first Country to adopt a new change...)
About Import, as a Buyer, I can't help you - we simply didn't import
anymore.
Generally speaking, with Covid then tax changes, increase in Postal/shipping
costs, I'd say the market is shrinking instead of expanding.
As of AUG 2022, DHL fuel surcharge, for example, is 39.50% 
So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
Which isn't BrickLink's fault of course.
You're just one of the actors that are forced to set up this systematic taxation
system.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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| | Er, are you sure? I didn’t find any text about that.
All I found concerns changes for French businesses, not a change in the IOSS
scheme.
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Same here, that seems bizarre - I know we're different Countries, but this
I/OSS thing is EU wide I guess, so I'm not sure why we'd French act differently
(apart being the first Country to adopt a new change...)
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And:
1. So soon after the big change with OSS/IOSS.
2. While there’s still duty to collect above €150.
3. While the problems with IOSS is being ‘double-VATed’ below €150, not ‘zero-VATed’
above.
My guess is someone misread the one change about import VAT for Jan 2022: généralisation
de l’autoliquidation de la TVA à l’importation which makes French
businesses declare import VAT directly to the Fiscal administration and
not to customs anymore.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | As of AUG 2022, DHL fuel surcharge, for example, is 39.50%
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Holy cow.
| | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
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As an American, I don't think I'm subject to the EU's VAT by buying
from European sellers. And besides that, I really enjoy the euro being as weak
as it is currently because it means it's been much cheaper for me to buy
from European sellers than before, and I've taken advantage of it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SomeRandomUser writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | As of AUG 2022, DHL fuel surcharge, for example, is 39.50%
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Holy cow.
| | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
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As an American, I don't think I'm subject to the EU's VAT by buying
from European sellers. And besides that, I really enjoy the euro being as weak
as it is currently because it means it's been much cheaper for me to buy
from European sellers than before, and I've taken advantage of it.
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Please do it - we did it when it was the other way around 
Note also the FAR cheaper shipping methods we've - in general - and compared
to USPS.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Administrative, SomeRandomUser writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | As of AUG 2022, DHL fuel surcharge, for example, is 39.50%
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Holy cow.
| | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
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As an American, I don't think I'm subject to the EU's VAT by buying
from European sellers. And besides that, I really enjoy the euro being as weak
as it is currently because it means it's been much cheaper for me to buy
from European sellers than before, and I've taken advantage of it.
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Please do it - we did it when it was the other way around
Note also the FAR cheaper shipping methods we've - in general - and compared
to USPS.
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I've noted the shipping costs. They're pretty good actually. If shipping
time wasn't a concern, I'd buy from European sellers more often though
I managed to strike lucky with an order from Slovenia and an order from Portugal
that arrived in a week or so.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 13:24 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 13:55 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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With the Buy button you can do this if I remember well?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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With the Buy button you can do this if I remember well?
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There’s a setting in Wanted List settings: https://www.bricklink.com/wantedSettings.asp?viewFrom=P
Not sure if it’s the same that you set in the filters on the Buy page or if it’s
the default value for that filter or if they are totally independant.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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With the Buy button you can do this if I remember well?
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Yeah, but it would also be useful when browsing / valuing parts too.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | M_R | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2022 03:24 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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Maybe I’m missing the point but using More Options and selecting a country or
region?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2022 04:05 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, M_R writes:
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| | This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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Maybe I’m missing the point but using More Options and selecting a country or
region?
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I think the operative word is ‘default’ 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jul 31, 2022 07:37 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 124 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, M_R writes:
| | In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
| | | | So, to avoid taxes people in US buy US, EU buy EU, and business increases intra-Country.
For many people with low revenue, an extra effort in taxes (especially for low
value orders) is NOT affordable.
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This is why it would be useful to have a user setable default search location.
So that each time I search for something, it gives me results from UK sellers
only. Or US or France or EU or whatever the user sets it to be.
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Maybe I’m missing the point but using More Options and selecting a country or
region?
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Yes, for every search you do. If you want to search domestically on each search
you have to do it every time. It is particularly annoying for common parts where
there are 1000s of sellers and it has to load worldwide before you can switch
to domestic.
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| | | | | Author: | LeDav007 | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2022 05:08 | | Subject: | Re: Attention French Buyers | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
| | To all French buyers,
Beginning in July 2021, all marketplaces were required to recover VAT charges
for any purchases under EUR 150 coming from outside the EU.
This year in France, this rule was expanded to include all imports from outside
the EU, specifically on purchases above EUR 150.
The question we have is:
Based on your experience, are customs authorities collecting VAT on imports
valued over EUR 150 that have shipped during this year (2022)?
We are reaching out directly to several French buyers on BrickLink for their
input, but we also wanted to ask this question to French buyers who happen to
be in the Forum. Please add your reply to this thread.
Thank you,
The BrickLink Team
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Hi,
One thing I can for sure confirm from my multiple experiences is that the French
post office, actually more precisely their parcel delivery company named "Chronopost"
does collect taxes on imports. And since they add to this a HUGE fee for doing
it (more than 20 euros...), trust me they try to find any package they can make
you pay. The only way to avoid this is to have the actual seller invoice showing
that the VAT has already been paid beforehand. Until recently there was a limit
of 45 euros for non commercial packages between non commercial individuals (let's
say your mother living abroad sends a box of LEGO for your child's Christmas..)
but I can't say if this has changed. Their website still states this but
it might be out of date...
Details here (in French...) :
https://www.chronopost.fr/fr/importez
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