in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
You are correct, they are all 21 Bright Red, but LEGO wasn't able to match
the color well in these softer plastics. It's the same sort of material+color
inconsistency that led to many Pearl Light Gray parts being put under Flat Silver
here. :/
in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
You are correct, they are all 21 Bright Red, but LEGO wasn't able to match
the color well in these softer plastics. It's the same sort of material+color
inconsistency that led to many Pearl Light Gray parts being put under Flat Silver
here. :/
Was BL Rust called that way because someone said “eh, that’s not exactly Red,
let’s call it Rust”, or was there a rumor / knowledge that LEGO had a colour
named Rust and someone said “eh, this is not Red, that must be the elusive Rust”?
You are correct, they are all 21 Bright Red, but LEGO wasn't able to match
the color well in these softer plastics. It's the same sort of material+color
inconsistency that led to many Pearl Light Gray parts being put under Flat Silver
here. :/
Was BL Rust called that way because someone said “eh, that’s not exactly Red,
let’s call it Rust”, or was there a rumor / knowledge that LEGO had a colour
named Rust and someone said “eh, this is not Red, that must be the elusive Rust”?
Good question that I don't know the answer to LEGO shared this color chart
to Peeron back in 2003:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
At that point we didn't know exactly what several of those color names referred
to. 216 Rust is on there, but it does have its RGB with it that looks nothing
like these darker-red parts. I'm not sure when the BL color was added, this
was all a few years before I joined the community.
Was BL Rust called that way because someone said “eh, that’s not exactly Red,
let’s call it Rust”, or was there a rumor / knowledge that LEGO had a colour
named Rust and someone said “eh, this is not Red, that must be the elusive Rust”?
Good question that I don't know the answer to LEGO shared this color chart
to Peeron back in 2003:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
At that point we didn't know exactly what several of those color names referred
to. 216 Rust is on there, but it does have its RGB with it that looks nothing
like these darker-red parts.
Well, the colour patches / RGB values don’t show a very good likeness for the
more common colours either. So I’m not sure “it doesn’t match the RGB values”
would have been a big counter-argument.
I'm not sure when the BL color was added, this
was all a few years before I joined the community.
Ryan
Yeah, if we had been there back then, we would know and remember
Was BL Rust called that way because someone said “eh, that’s not exactly Red,
let’s call it Rust”, or was there a rumor / knowledge that LEGO had a colour
named Rust and someone said “eh, this is not Red, that must be the elusive Rust”?
Good question that I don't know the answer to LEGO shared this color chart
to Peeron back in 2003:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
At that point we didn't know exactly what several of those color names referred
to. 216 Rust is on there, but it does have its RGB with it that looks nothing
like these darker-red parts.
Well, the colour patches / RGB values don’t show a very good likeness for the
more common colours either. So I’m not sure “it doesn’t match the RGB values”
would have been a big counter-argument.
I'm not sure when the BL color was added, this
was all a few years before I joined the community.
Ryan
Yeah, if we had been there back then, we would know and remember
So where do we go from here? Noone seems to object against removing "soft and
rusty" red parts from the "Rust" color category. But it seems the color is still
relevant for the skateboards and possibly other parts.
So where do we go from here? Noone seems to object against removing "soft and
rusty" red parts from the "Rust" color category. But it seems the color is still
relevant for the skateboards and possibly other parts.
/Jan
This will be taken up as a project at some point. Beyond that, there is no plan
right now.
in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
/Jan
I was told a few months ago that there would be community input about this problem
and that these parts would have a definitive home by June. Given the notes, I
don’t see any reason not to have these moved. This problem also exists with Flat
Silver and Glow in the Dark parts, as many of those are under the wrong color.
in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
/Jan
Imo parts that are in the catalog as Rust for about 20 years, can't be changed
to regular Red. Besides they don't even look Red and at least 4 parts that
I know of exist in Red ánd Rust.
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
So as a seller and a buyer I would prefer that these colors keep separated. To
separate them from the real Rust parts, maybe a new color name could be added.
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
So as a seller and a buyer I would prefer that these colors keep separated. To
separate them from the real Rust parts, maybe a new color name could be added.
Perhaps we should call the original color: "Real Rust"?
in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
/Jan
Imo parts that are in the catalog as Rust for about 20 years, can't be changed
to regular Red. Besides they don't even look Red and at least 4 parts that
I know of exist in Red ánd Rust.
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
So as a seller and a buyer I would prefer that these colors keep separated. To
separate them from the real Rust parts, maybe a new color name could be added.
in a mixed lot of Technic/Hero Factory/Bionicle and
I claim that it's not Rust.
In the attached photo, the only truly modern LEGO Red colored part is the bionicle
foot. The connector and the worm screw are a bit pale shade of Red. The bar and
key are even more pale (more Rust'y). The key is per the catalog Red, so
I see no point in defining any of the other parts as Rust. I belive these parts
parts are a pale shade of Red because of a softer plastic type that is needed
so that the parts don't break under the forces they may experience.
I'm not sure that Rust should exist for these common parts and that they
should be variants of Red just like older parts are slightly paler and darker
than modern parts.
So please consider removing the Rust color for these parts. I'll be selling
all these parts as Red.
/Jan
Imo parts that are in the catalog as Rust for about 20 years, can't be changed
to regular Red. Besides they don't even look Red and at least 4 parts that
I know of exist in Red ánd Rust.
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
So as a seller and a buyer I would prefer that these colors keep separated. To
separate them from the real Rust parts, maybe a new color name could be added.
Diana
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
Agreed.
It's the seller's job to specify any issues with parts, including color
variations (e.g. multiple Trans-Orange's). Serious sellers will do this or
state. For other sellers there will be many more inconsistencies with their parts
than just this one and customer satisfaction will not be perfect either way.
Even though official "Rust" could be removed from available colors, sellers could
always list them as "Rust" and sell them anyway. Nothing is stopping them.
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
No it wouldn’t
It sets a precedent that we don't need. We don't need extra colors for
all the different Trans-Light Blue variants, Dark Pink variants, etc.
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
No it wouldn’t
It sets a precedent that we don't need. We don't need extra colors for
all the different Trans-Light Blue variants, Dark Pink variants, etc.
But deciding not to undo something that has been there for 20 years does not
in any way require us to do a whole bunch of other things that way. Obviously
for 20 years we've been able to have one and not the others. What's
another 20 years?
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
No it wouldn’t
It sets a precedent that we don't need. We don't need extra colors for
all the different Trans-Light Blue variants, Dark Pink variants, etc.
But deciding not to undo something that has been there for 20 years does not
in any way require us to do a whole bunch of other things that way. Obviously
for 20 years we've been able to have one and not the others. What's
another 20 years?
We didn’t have any official information for most of those 20 years. Flat Silver
was added back in 2004 to hold Pearl Light Gray parts that display extreme variation.
These “variant” BL colors have only led to confusion and problems for future
sellers and buyers here. I would like to see these cleaned up so that this problem
doesn’t continue to exist for another 20 years. Better late than never?
This would require having to add more colors for Brittle Blue, dozens of Pearl
Gold variants, bad LBG, etc. Variation should only be noted in the item’s entry.
No it wouldn’t
It sets a precedent that we don't need. We don't need extra colors for
all the different Trans-Light Blue variants, Dark Pink variants, etc.
But deciding not to undo something that has been there for 20 years does not
in any way require us to do a whole bunch of other things that way. Obviously
for 20 years we've been able to have one and not the others. What's
another 20 years?
We didn’t have any official information for most of those 20 years. Flat Silver
was added back in 2004 to hold Pearl Light Gray parts that display extreme variation.
These “variant” BL colors have only led to confusion and problems for future
sellers and buyers here. I would like to see these cleaned up so that this problem
doesn’t continue to exist for another 20 years. Better late than never?
I would also like to see rust-red and old flat silver eliminated from the catalog.
(Even if 20 years of "precedent" never did bring about the addition of brittle
blue, multiple warm golds, etc.)
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
As for the remaining parts, I still would like to know if they also exist in
regular Red. Unfortunately some sellers list them as Red and I receive Rust
This case I believe is just poor quality assurance, and because it's mostly
a hidden part, someone decided that the color nuance wasn't that important.
I have a bunch of these as well. Also modern yellow technic axles exhibit variance
in color.
Denmark
USA, Colorado
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
LEGO shared this color chart
Germany, Niedersachsen
Netherlands, Gelderland
