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 Author: amvdamian View Messages Posted By amvdamian
 Posted: May 6, 2022 19:21
 Subject: Bright light yellow minifigure head plain
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amvdamian (461)

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The plain BLY minifig head seems to have disappeared from the DB???

I think it is currently out of stock from any seller (?)

But why is it now gone on the list of colors for this part?
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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Probably was an illegal prototype so it was removed in the big sweep
 Author: amvdamian View Messages Posted By amvdamian
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In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Probably was an illegal prototype so it was removed in the big sweep

I bought one from a seller here, and when I was going to order one more, it went
out of stock with the seller. He states that he got it from a shipment from a
Legoland in Florida. Don't know how to verify it though???
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 6, 2022 20:03
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Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.
 Author: George_Lucy View Messages Posted By George_Lucy
 Posted: May 6, 2022 20:28
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I believe I have a few but I am not sure if they are that color. I am 95% sure
but have nothing to compare it to.

In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: May 6, 2022 20:50
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You have 3 lots in your store that are BLY you could compare it with those.
Just go to your inventory, and choose by color, then Bright light yellow or just
click

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/inventory_detail.page?catType=P&colorID=103#/

In LEGO, George_Lucy writes:
  I believe I have a few but I am not sure if they are that color. I am 95% sure
but have nothing to compare it to.

In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.
 Author: George_Lucy View Messages Posted By George_Lucy
 Posted: May 6, 2022 20:57
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It is very hard to compare to color on rubber or friends stuff. It just doesn’t
look the same comparing the friends skirt even to the hair. They are light yellow
or bright light yellow.

In LEGO, macebobo writes:
  You have 3 lots in your store that are BLY you could compare it with those.
Just go to your inventory, and choose by color, then Bright light yellow or just
click

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/inventory_detail.page?catType=P&colorID=103#/

In LEGO, George_Lucy writes:
  I believe I have a few but I am not sure if they are that color. I am 95% sure
but have nothing to compare it to.

In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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I am pretty sure they aren’t light yellow.

In LEGO, George_Lucy writes:
  It is very hard to compare to color on rubber or friends stuff. It just doesn’t
look the same comparing the friends skirt even to the hair. They are light yellow
or bright light yellow.

In LEGO, macebobo writes:
  You have 3 lots in your store that are BLY you could compare it with those.
Just go to your inventory, and choose by color, then Bright light yellow or just
click

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/inventory_detail.page?catType=P&colorID=103#/

In LEGO, George_Lucy writes:
  I believe I have a few but I am not sure if they are that color. I am 95% sure
but have nothing to compare it to.

In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.
 Author: TheBrickGuys View Messages Posted By TheBrickGuys
 Posted: May 7, 2022 01:49
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In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Who knows, Perhaps his was a misprinted one. Recently bricklink removed a lot
of prototype parts since most of them were illegally made so the few normal ones
mixed in would have gotten removed as well.

When you say illegally made, do you mean counterfeit? As on made by someone or
wrongly made at a Lego factory?

Jim.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 7, 2022 02:11
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Illegally as made and distributed by employees without authorization from LEGO
they are genuine LEGO parts however they were made
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Illegally as made and distributed by employees without authorization from LEGO
they are genuine LEGO parts however they were made

Contradiction in terms: by definition, if they are not authorized, they are not
genuine.

Analogy: even if you use the paper, ink, printing plates and everything else
of the US Mint to make dollar bills, they won’t be genuine.
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Genuine as they were made with official machines and official “ingredients” the
exact same way they would normally be made except they weren’t made with authorization.
If someone turned on the printing press after closing hours at a mint everything
they made would still be genuine even if it’s illegal. Authorization dosnt necessarily
make something genuine on a product level. What determines if something is genuine
or not? If 1 manger at LEGO said to make a certain part and another said not
to and the part was still made would it be genuine or a fake (my example probably
makes no since since it’s 3 am where I live and I haven’t slept in ages)
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In LEGO, Nubs_Select writes:
  Genuine as they were made with official machines and official “ingredients” the
exact same way they would normally be made except they weren’t made with authorization.
If someone turned on the printing press after closing hours at a mint everything
they made would still be genuine even if it’s illegal. Authorization dosnt necessarily
make something genuine on a product level. What determines if something is genuine
or not?

Authorization does make something genuine because it’s all about bona fide
& Intellectual Property.

The definition of genuine you’re defending is attached and limited to the material. 
It’s okay when we are talking about “genuine leather” as opposed to “leatherette”
(or “peau de pneu” / “tyre skin” ), it’s not if we are talking about something
that relates to IP.

For instance, say an author dictates all their books to the same typist who always
uses the same paper, ink, and typewriter.  If the typist writes a book on their
own with the same tools, is the book genuinely from the author?  Of course not.
And if the typist is actually more a co-author or even a ghost writer?  Still
no if the (main/front) author doesn’t sign/authorize it.


Some people try to twist the words around with phrases like “unauthorized authentics.” 
They are just scammers.  If it’s not authorized, it’s not genuine nor authentic,
by definition.


   If 1 manger at LEGO said to make a certain part and another said not
to and the part was still made would it be genuine or a fake

I think there’s a octagon in every LEGO factory for such cases

More seriously, it’s not the same because 1) the first manager had the authority
to give the order, and 2), more simply, even if they didn’t have that authority
and the parts were made, someone at LEGO has the authority to decide what to
do with the parts (authorizing them post hoc, or not).
For the “night-shift” parts we’re talking about, LEGO has decided they were not
genuine.


   (my example probably
makes no since since it’s 3 am where I live and I haven’t slept in ages)

Try to sleep, I heard it’s good for one’s health
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 Posted: May 7, 2022 01:40
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In LEGO, amvdamian writes:
  The plain BLY minifig head seems to have disappeared from the DB???

I think it is currently out of stock from any seller (?)

But why is it now gone on the list of colors for this part?

Because there is no such thing as the list of colors of a part. There
are several lists on the catalog page:
(1) available colors = which colors of this part are currently available in stores;
this does not mean that the color actually exists, only that the seller listed
the part in this color.
(2) on wanted lists = which colors of this part are currently specified on wanted
lists; a lot of these colors are wishful thinking on behalf of the potential
buyers.
(3) known colors = which colors are known to exist in set/gear/etc inventories;
these colors have been confirmed to exist and can be traced to their origin.
This list is not exclusive in that parts may still exist in another color in
sets that have not been inventoried, in test runs, in special releases or escapes,
from model shops or unknown other sources.

So as to your question, I assume you are looking at list (1): the color disappears
from this selection whenever there is no-one having this part in this color available
in their shop. They may still have them in their stock rooms and you may still
list an item for sale in this color or place it on your wanted list.

A good indication of whether a part actually exists in a color, is when there
is an actual photo of the part in this color. Either in the catalog or in the
seller's listing. For renders this is mostly true as well, but they may occasionally
exist when a part has never been seen in this color. So if you see listings without
an image, always be aware that it may be wrongly listed.

[p=3626c] does have a single listing (at the time of writing) but no image in
BLY [p=3626c,103] and the wrong color image associated to that listing.
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Perhaps she was referring to this
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?itemType=P&itemNo=3626b&v=2

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  In LEGO, amvdamian writes:
  The plain BLY minifig head seems to have disappeared from the DB???

I think it is currently out of stock from any seller (?)

But why is it now gone on the list of colors for this part?

Because there is no such thing as the list of colors of a part. There
are several lists on the catalog page:
(1) available colors = which colors of this part are currently available in stores;
this does not mean that the color actually exists, only that the seller listed
the part in this color.
(2) on wanted lists = which colors of this part are currently specified on wanted
lists; a lot of these colors are wishful thinking on behalf of the potential
buyers.
(3) known colors = which colors are known to exist in set/gear/etc inventories;
these colors have been confirmed to exist and can be traced to their origin.
This list is not exclusive in that parts may still exist in another color in
sets that have not been inventoried, in test runs, in special releases or escapes,
from model shops or unknown other sources.

So as to your question, I assume you are looking at list (1): the color disappears
from this selection whenever there is no-one having this part in this color available
in their shop. They may still have them in their stock rooms and you may still
list an item for sale in this color or place it on your wanted list.

A good indication of whether a part actually exists in a color, is when there
is an actual photo of the part in this color. Either in the catalog or in the
seller's listing. For renders this is mostly true as well, but they may occasionally
exist when a part has never been seen in this color. So if you see listings without
an image, always be aware that it may be wrongly listed.

[p=3626c] does have a single listing (at the time of writing) but no image in
BLY [p=3626c,103] and the wrong color image associated to that listing.
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In LEGO, hpoort writes:
  In LEGO, amvdamian writes:
  The plain BLY minifig head seems to have disappeared from the DB???

I think it is currently out of stock from any seller (?)

But why is it now gone on the list of colors for this part?

Because there is no such thing as the list of colors of a part. There
are several lists on the catalog page:
(1) available colors = which colors of this part are currently available in stores;
this does not mean that the color actually exists, only that the seller listed
the part in this color.
(2) on wanted lists = which colors of this part are currently specified on wanted
lists; a lot of these colors are wishful thinking on behalf of the potential
buyers.
(3) known colors = which colors are known to exist in set/gear/etc inventories;
these colors have been confirmed to exist and can be traced to their origin.
This list is not exclusive in that parts may still exist in another color in
sets that have not been inventoried, in test runs, in special releases or escapes,
from model shops or unknown other sources.

So as to your question, I assume you are looking at list (1): the color disappears
from this selection whenever there is no-one having this part in this color available
in their shop. They may still have them in their stock rooms and you may still
list an item for sale in this color or place it on your wanted list.

A good indication of whether a part actually exists in a color, is when there
is an actual photo of the part in this color. Either in the catalog or in the
seller's listing. For renders this is mostly true as well, but they may occasionally
exist when a part has never been seen in this color. So if you see listings without
an image, always be aware that it may be wrongly listed.

[p=3626c] does have a single listing (at the time of writing) but no image in
BLY [p=3626c,103] and the wrong color image associated to that listing.

I read on Eurobricks that the BLY plain minifig head only exists as a "factory"
item.
So perhaps it was indeed "illegally" made.
Bummer. Just when I thought I could finally complete several BLY monofigs.