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 Author: allerhandgwand View Messages Posted By allerhandgwand
 Posted: Apr 16, 2022 09:54
 Subject: 2641 Support Crane Stand Single - two varians
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There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.
 
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Apr 16, 2022 16:55
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In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 16, 2022 17:11
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In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.

According to LDraw, there’s actually 3 versions:

2641a Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join (“curved join” is the pointy
join between the underside of the plate and the support)
2541b Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join Reinforced (there’s two struts
on each side of the join)
2541c Support Crane Stand Single with Rectangular Join (the “cut” version, with
a full 2x2 plate)

I’d say there’s a functional difference between C’s and A, B’s undersides (7
antistuds instead of 5).
 
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Apr 16, 2022 20:27
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In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.

According to LDraw, there’s actually 3 versions:

2641a Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join (“curved join” is the pointy
join between the underside of the plate and the support)
2541b Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join Reinforced (there’s two struts
on each side of the join)
2541c Support Crane Stand Single with Rectangular Join (the “cut” version, with
a full 2x2 plate)

I’d say there’s a functional difference between C’s and A, B’s undersides (7
antistuds instead of 5).

Make that "6 antistuds instead of 5" and I agree.

Niek.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 16, 2022 22:36
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In Catalog Requests, qwertyboy writes:
  In Catalog Requests, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.

According to LDraw, there’s actually 3 versions:

2641a Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join (“curved join” is the pointy
join between the underside of the plate and the support)
2541b Support Crane Stand Single with Curved Join Reinforced (there’s two struts
on each side of the join)
2541c Support Crane Stand Single with Rectangular Join (the “cut” version, with
a full 2x2 plate)

I’d say there’s a functional difference between C’s and A, B’s undersides (7
antistuds instead of 5).

Make that "6 antistuds instead of 5" and I agree.

Niek.

Sylvain may be counting this one:
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 17, 2022 07:19
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In Catalog Requests, peregrinator writes:
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  I’d say there’s a functional difference between C’s and A, B’s undersides (7
antistuds instead of 5).

Make that "6 antistuds instead of 5" and I agree.

Niek.

Sylvain may be counting this one:

Indeed
It’s like the “How many squares in the picture?” games
 Author: allerhandgwand View Messages Posted By allerhandgwand
 Posted: May 9, 2022 04:43
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In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.

Sorry for letting you wait so long. I had to find this item again - and now I
was successful. So, there is no other difference than the one we discussed here.
The support beam has the same size and shape, also the cross supports inside
the support beam are the same size / place.
Best regards,
Marc
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 9, 2022 06:48
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In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  In Catalog Requests, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, allerhandgwand writes:
  There are two versions of this stands: one with a cutout area 2x2, one without.
Both of them have the imprinted number 2641.

Can you confirm that there are no other differences? For example the main support
beam is the same size and shape on both?

If its only the underside of the top plate with any differences I think its sufficient
to add a note to the catalog entry and your image for reference. Neither set
these are used in relies on the different design during the build.

Thanks,
Paul.

Sorry for letting you wait so long. I had to find this item again - and now I
was successful. So, there is no other difference than the one we discussed here.
The support beam has the same size and shape, also the cross supports inside
the support beam are the same size / place.
Best regards,
Marc


This part will be split then as they are functionally different in regards to
building possibilities. Thanks for the information.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 20, 2023 12:16
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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  This part will be split then as they are functionally different in regards to
building possibilities. Thanks for the information.

Not quite sure the reason for the delay in getting this accomplished.

A catalog submission was made on August 25th, 2001:

 
Part No: 2641B  Name: Support Crane Stand Single with 6 stud holders on top plate (don't delete - there is also a forum request relating to this - PR)
  
2641B Support Crane Stand Single with 6 stud holders on top plate (don't delete - there is also a forum request relating to this - PR)
Parts: (Other)
Pending Approval

I added the other version today with an image:

[P=2641a]

Since the decision was made to split the part, all the pieces are in place now.
I encourage the catalog experts to complete these approvals and the other minor
necessary work, followed by closing out this request.