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 Author: 123yipyah View Messages Posted By 123yipyah
 Posted: Feb 23, 2022 17:50
 Subject: HO Scale, VW Beetle Sand green colour
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123yipyah (192)

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Hi,
I submitted a change request to add the 'Sand Green' colour to item#
661pb01 and also uploaded a photo.
The request was rejected and I'm unsure why.
Can you advise me on how I should add the 'Sand green' colour of this
Vehicle.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Feb 24, 2022 06:20
 Subject: Re: HO Scale, VW Beetle Sand green colour
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In Catalog Requests, 123yipyah writes:
  Hi,
I submitted a change request to add the 'Sand Green' colour to item#
661pb01 and also uploaded a photo.
The request was rejected and I'm unsure why.
Can you advise me on how I should add the 'Sand green' colour of this
Vehicle.

To make sand green a "known" color the part in sand green must be added to an
inventory.

We have an image for (sand) green for this Beetle
 
Part No: 260pb01  Name: HO Scale, VW Beetle (52mm Long)
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260pb01 HO Scale, VW Beetle (52mm Long)
Parts: HO 1:87 Vehicles {Green}

Are you sure yours is the longer version?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Nov 20, 2023 11:50
 Subject: Re: HO Scale, VW Beetle Sand green colour
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In Catalog Requests, 123yipyah writes:
  Hi,
I submitted a change request to add the 'Sand Green' colour to item#
661pb01 and also uploaded a photo.
The request was rejected and I'm unsure why.
Can you advise me on how I should add the 'Sand green' colour of this
Vehicle.

The person who requested this change did not respond to a request for further
information and nearly two years have passed. It's likely that the requestor
simply made an error and confused the versions.

I recommend this request be discarded.
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 25, 2023 10:31
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In Catalog Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog Requests, 123yipyah writes:
  Hi,
I submitted a change request to add the 'Sand Green' colour to item#
661pb01 and also uploaded a photo.
The request was rejected and I'm unsure why.
Can you advise me on how I should add the 'Sand green' colour of this
Vehicle.

The person who requested this change did not respond to a request for further
information and nearly two years have passed. It's likely that the requestor
simply made an error and confused the versions.

I recommend this request be discarded.

Actually the person who submitted this change request was right, but the submitter
of the Green VW Beetle Short version was wrong.

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We have two HO 1:87 VW Beetles in the BrickLink catalog. The item numbers suggest
that the first 3 digits stand for the first sets they came in, at least I think
that this was meant to be. Unfortunately though the item numbers are switched
and therefore in the inventories of the wrong sets.
 
Part No: 661pb01  Name: HO Scale, VW Beetle (56mm Long)
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661pb01 HO Scale, VW Beetle (56mm Long)
Parts: HO 1:87 Vehicles
The Long versions came first.
It has a glued chassis and only a LEGO Logo on the bottom.
This is the older LEGO logo with open O with a so called ‘dogbone’ (same logo
used on packaging)
This version has been found in 26 different colors, including metallic colors.
 
Part No: 260pb01  Name: HO Scale, VW Beetle (52mm Long)
* 
260pb01 HO Scale, VW Beetle (52mm Long)
Parts: HO 1:87 Vehicles
The Short version came last.
It has a chassis clicked in, a LEGO logo ánd VW 1200 on the bottom.
The LEGO logo with open O doesn’t have the ‘dogbone’ anymore.
This version only came in 6 different colors: black, blue, red, tan, gray and
metallic ‘silver’.

I moved the additional note about the VW 1200 on the bottom from 661pb01 to 260pb01
and moved the sand green image from 260pb01 to 661pb01.

Sources: LEGO logo history, LEGO logo on packaging (boxes, banderoles),
lot’s of images from collectors, Richard Hausmann’s book ‘LEGO Modellautos’
(see images).

Most inventories which have these VW Beetle are wrong (most probably because
of the mixed up item number). Inventory Change Requests will follow.

The 12** and 13** sets were released only in Denmark, Norway and Sweden in 1957.
A year later as 2** and 3** also in other European countries.

Set 261 came with both long and short version, but the set itself came in two
versions also:
 
Set No: 261  Name: 1:87 VW Beetle + Showroom
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261-2 (Inv) 1:87 VW Beetle + Showroom
4 Parts, 1958
Sets: Classic: HO 1:87 Vehicles
1958 – 1962 Long version with showcase and VW brick
 
Set No: 261  Name: 1:87 VW Beetle with Garage
* 
261-3 (Inv) 1:87 VW Beetle with Garage
2 Parts, 1963
Sets: Classic: HO 1:87 Vehicles
1963 – 1964 Short versions with Garage

I can’t find any proof that the sets 260-2, 306-2 and 307-2 also came with the
shorter version, nor that sets 810-2 and 810-4 came with the longer version,
so my suggestion is to keep the inventories (after the inventory change requests
are approved) with the versions that we are sure of until there’s proof it came
with the alternate version also.

The Short VW Beetle also came in sets 696 and 698.

Attached images are from Richard Hausmann’s book ‘LEGO Modellautos - der 50er
und 60er Jahre’

first image: short top, long bottom
second image: short left, long right
third image: sand green long
fourth image: long version
fifth image: short version

Diana

PS I will move this post to Topic Catalog, to keep the info and ask the submitter
of this request to submit an image if he still has this Long VW Beetle in Sand
Green.