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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks  | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2022 21:18 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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Wow! That's a good surprise!
Will test this tomorrow.
Thank you!!
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2022 21:30 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout
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Quick tests:
I tried in 3 different shops including Brick24, and couldn't see no "Verify
your VAT ID" link or whatever even close to this, up to the very last step of
the check out (4th).
It's late, tired - please have a good evening!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:04 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear 1001bricks,
Please try to reset your browser or clear the cache.
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Ah oh - that's not very clear, as Teup wrote it only works for Imports (from
outside EU to EU)?
I was expecting B2B within countries inside Europe.
This last one feature I was expecting, and would greatly be welcomed!
Sylvain
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:11 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear 1001bricks,
Please try to reset your browser or clear the cache.
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Ah oh - that's not very clear, as Teup wrote it only works for Imports (from
outside EU to EU)?
I was expecting B2B within countries inside Europe.
This last one feature I was expecting, and would greatly be welcomed!
Sylvain
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Yep, agree. This new feature is great news for American shops, but it would be
really nice if it applied to EU shops too. But for that, first we need to figure
out whether sellers are legally allowed to refuse doing 0% VAT intra-community
transactions. I don't think they are, and certainly not for a fee as some
are doing, but I'm really not sure about it... maybe someone knows?
It means extra administrative hassle and some sellers are not confident that
the tax agency is going to accept the 0% VAT transactions, so I do understand
the reasons why some sellers like to be able to refuse it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:29 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | Yep, agree. This new feature is great news for American shops, but it would be
really nice if it applied to EU shops too. But for that, first we need to figure
out whether sellers are legally allowed to refuse doing 0% VAT intra-community
transactions. I don't think they are, and certainly not for a fee as some
are doing, but I'm really not sure about it... maybe someone knows?
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Yes, some sellers simply refuse, or ask an extra fee, or payment in their Currency
for example (which involves conversion fees)...
I also think it may not be 100% legal to refuse (or overcharge), but I can be
wrong.
I couldn't find a precise text.
Here we always gladly accept B2B.
Sylvain
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:35 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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I also think it may not be 100% legal to refuse (or overcharge), but I can be
wrong.
I couldn't find a precise text.
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Rule of thumb: Does S@H do it?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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I also think it may not be 100% legal to refuse (or overcharge), but I can be
wrong.
I couldn't find a precise text.
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Rule of thumb: Does S@H do it?
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Does S@H officialy accept transactions with businesses in their Terms?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:43 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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I also think it may not be 100% legal to refuse (or overcharge), but I can be
wrong.
I couldn't find a precise text.
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Rule of thumb: Does S@H do it?
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Well, hard to know because I think they have a presence in every country, so
the intra-EU-import situation doesn't occur. But when I think about Dutch
webshops that ship to NL and Belgium, I can't really imagine they all have
a system to accommodate 0% VAT transactions.
But even if they have a right to refuse it, it would be nice if EU sellers could
at least choose to enable this feature in their store if they want to. That would
really save a bunch of hassle asking and answering "hey do you make 0% VAT invoices",
verifying the VAT ID on ec.europa.eu, removing VAT, and hoping the buyer didn't
already pay so you have to go and book a refund for the VAT amount, etc... it
could really boost B2B transactions within the EU if buyers can see immediately
that their B2B order will be accepted and even pay when checking out.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 08:23 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear 1001bricks,
Please try to reset your browser or clear the cache.
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Ohh it's at the bottom, I didn't see it - got it.
But I confirm, it works for Import only (but it's already nice, thank you
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Sylvain
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 04:19 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout
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Quick tests:
I tried in 3 different shops including Brick24, and couldn't see no "Verify
your VAT ID" link or whatever even close to this, up to the very last step of
the check out (4th).
It's late, tired - please have a good evening!
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Looks like it only works on stores outside the EU, I wonder why? I like how it
works, I think the same could be applied to EU stores, no? Or should stores be
able to refuse accepting them? According to the tax agency helpdesk here, it's
not something stores are allowed to refuse, but I've also seen on the forum
that intra-community transactions are problematic for sellers in certain member
states.
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2022 22:04 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Good to see. Now, how about accommodating the registered US businesses
that have been calling for assistance, whom hold their state boards of equalization's
resale certificate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228728
I’m no longer one of them, but I do know what it’s like to deal with sales tax
filings as a US business in some states. Just hate to see the many that post
asking for the needed implementation, go unanswered or at least not be given
a definitive intent/resolve: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326891
-popsicle
In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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| | | | | | | Author: | CE_Tanja | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2022 23:12 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Dear popsicle,
We are aware of and understand the many requests for a similar solution for the
US. We are currently (and for a while) looking in to a possible solution for
the US, unfortunately it is not as straight forward as for EU and we are not
there yet.
We will be sharing updates related to this and other relevant topics in the quarterly
Marketplace newsletter.
In Administrative, popsicle writes:
| | Good to see. Now, how about accommodating the registered US businesses
that have been calling for assistance, whom hold their state boards of equalization's
resale certificate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228728
I’m no longer one of them, but I do know what it’s like to deal with sales tax
filings as a US business in some states. Just hate to see the many that post
asking for the needed implementation, go unanswered or at least not be given
a definitive intent/resolve: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326891
-popsicle
In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | cosmicray | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 10:18 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear popsicle,
We are aware of and understand the many requests for a similar solution for the
US. We are currently (and for a while) looking in to a possible solution for
the US, unfortunately it is not as straight forward as for EU and we are not
there yet.
We will be sharing updates related to this and other relevant topics in the quarterly
Marketplace newsletter.
In Administrative, popsicle writes:
| | Good to see. Now, how about accommodating the registered US businesses
that have been calling for assistance, whom hold their state boards of equalization's
resale certificate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1228728
I’m no longer one of them, but I do know what it’s like to deal with sales tax
filings as a US business in some states. Just hate to see the many that post
asking for the needed implementation, go unanswered or at least not be given
a definitive intent/resolve: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1326891
-popsicle
In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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But note, that your US Sales Tax service provider is already handling the registered
Freight Agents (at least in Florida) and appropriately calculating zero sales
tax.
Nita Rae
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| | | | | Author: | Yo_Yo_Flamingo | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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Okay, I like the sounds of this feature... Is there an information document anywhere
explaining what the feature is, how to use it, and who it is applicable to?
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | Okay, I like the sounds of this feature... Is there an information document anywhere
explaining what the feature is, how to use it, and who it is applicable to?
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There's nothing to do from your side.
If a VAT seller in EU orders at your shop, he can use the B2B option, and then
won't pay VAT.
If he doesn't use it, he'll pay the VAT.
That's it, no difference for you; apart the payment you see, it will include
or not the VAT (vut in all cases the VAT isn't for you, PayPal takes it for
BrickLink).
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Yo_Yo_Flamingo | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 19:41 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Okay, I like the sounds of this feature... Is there an information document anywhere
explaining what the feature is, how to use it, and who it is applicable to?
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There's nothing to do from your side.
If a VAT seller in EU orders at your shop, he can use the B2B option, and then
won't pay VAT.
If he doesn't use it, he'll pay the VAT.
That's it, no difference for you; apart the payment you see, it will include
or not the VAT (vut in all cases the VAT isn't for you, PayPal takes it for
BrickLink).
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Thank you for the succinct explanation!
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| | | | | | | Author: | CE_Tanja | | Posted: | Feb 23, 2022 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Hi Yo_Yo_Flamingo,
There is now you can find it here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2526
In Administrative, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
| | In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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Okay, I like the sounds of this feature... Is there an information document anywhere
explaining what the feature is, how to use it, and who it is applicable to?
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 15:03 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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Thanks! Seems it works nicely!
But keep an eye on the users who use it, if they are not sellers that already
verified themselves it should ask for some kind of document verification, not
just the VAT number.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2022 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| | | But keep an eye on the users who use it, if they are not sellers that already
verified themselves it should ask for some kind of document verification, not
just the VAT number.
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From what I read, as long as the VAT number is verified, it's fine for BrickLink
which takes the decision to "B2B" the transaction.
Transaction that the seller can refuse or even refund.
The actual Seller should ship to the buyers address that should correspond
to the VAT one in VIES.
It's his responsability and his own problem if he doesn't ship to the
VIES address...
IMHO
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| | | | | Author: | MISB_Collector | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2022 04:18 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| Is it the same for Businesses in the USA to register their EIN numbers?
In Administrative, CE_Tanja writes:
| | Dear all,
Today we have launched the ability for registered EU businesses to place business-to-business
(B2B) transactions on the Marketplace. This new feature will remove any VAT charges
for orders shipping to the EU.
In order to make use of this new feature, simply click on the 'Verify your
VAT ID' link under the Order Summary section to enter your valid VAT registration
number during checkout and VAT will be zeroed-out for applicable transactions.
If you are already an EU VAT-enabled business on BrickLink, your VAT ID will
be pre-populated and VAT zeroed-out when checking out, so you will not need to
enter it again.
Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 8, 2022 08:59 | | Subject: | Re: Enabling of B2B transactions for EU orders | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
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| In Administrative, MISB_Collector writes:
| | Is it the same for Businesses in the USA to register their EIN numbers?
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It’s only for EU VAT.
For US Sales tax, see this answer: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1329257
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