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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:10
 Subject: Member Bronsonschenkel
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cosmicray (3486)

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If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae
 Author: Bond View Messages Posted By Bond
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:23
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.
(snip)

Nita Rae

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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:29
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cosmicray (3486)

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In Problem, Bond writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.
(snip)

Nita Rae

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I can see it just fine ...

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=Bronsonschenkel

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 Author: Bond View Messages Posted By Bond
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 10:44
 Subject: Re: Member Bronsonschenkel
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Bond (776)

Location:  USA, Texas
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  I can see it just fine ...

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=Bronsonschenkel

Nita Rae

I can too, now. (shrug)

Must have been the time of morning that I searched (around 0435 or so). I copied
and pasted the ID into the Member List search box, and got "(No Members Found)".
Any number of technical reasons come to mind, but BL could have doing a DB server
backup then.

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 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:44
 Subject: Re: Member Bronsonschenkel
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zorbanj (803)

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PayPal switched me over to Shipstation. When i print shipping labels now, Shipstation
claims that it is "verifying the address". The verified address comes back in
capital letters and the zip +4 is added if missing. This did not happen pre-Shipstation.


In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:48
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In Problem, zorbanj writes:
  PayPal switched me over to Shipstation. When i print shipping labels now, Shipstation
claims that it is "verifying the address". The verified address comes back in
capital letters and the zip +4 is added if missing. This did not happen pre-Shipstation.

FWIW, Pirate Ship does the same, but you can turn off the address verification
if you want.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 09:55
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cosmicray (3486)

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In Problem, peregrinator writes:
  In Problem, zorbanj writes:
  PayPal switched me over to Shipstation. When i print shipping labels now, Shipstation
claims that it is "verifying the address". The verified address comes back in
capital letters and the zip +4 is added if missing. This did not happen pre-Shipstation.

FWIW, Pirate Ship does the same, but you can turn off the address verification
if you want.

Perhaps it comes turned off by default. I did not notice it until after the label
was printed.

Nita Rae
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 08:56
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 09:54
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cosmicray (3486)

Location:  USA, Florida
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In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

I have now. Since the address on the payment is invalid, I had no choice but
to refund/cancel. If they want to place a new order, I'm Ok with that (after
I know they have a valid address).

  If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

So, I looked at that page. The disclaimer at the top ...

   Please do not report problems with your buyer or seller to this page. Problem regarding your buyer or seller in a transaction should be reported to the Problem Order page. This page is for reporting problem members other than transaction-related.

makes me question if this is an appropriate use of the page. When does this report
apply ?

Nita Rae
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 09:59
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

I have now. Since the address on the payment is invalid, I had no choice but
to refund/cancel. If they want to place a new order, I'm Ok with that (after
I know they have a valid address).

  If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

So, I looked at that page. The disclaimer at the top ...

   Please do not report problems with your buyer or seller to this page. Problem regarding your buyer or seller in a transaction should be reported to the Problem Order page. This page is for reporting problem members other than transaction-related.

makes me question if this is an appropriate use of the page. When does this report
apply ?

You questioned the address.
In the Problem Center there are no other options when it's not about NPB.

  
Nita Rae
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 10:03
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In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

I have now. Since the address on the payment is invalid, I had no choice but
to refund/cancel. If they want to place a new order, I'm Ok with that (after
I know they have a valid address).

  If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

So, I looked at that page. The disclaimer at the top ...

   Please do not report problems with your buyer or seller to this page. Problem regarding your buyer or seller in a transaction should be reported to the Problem Order page. This page is for reporting problem members other than transaction-related.

makes me question if this is an appropriate use of the page. When does this report
apply ?

You questioned the address.
In the Problem Center there are no other options when it's not about NPB.

Here is the help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=265

  
  
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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 10:34
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In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

I have now. Since the address on the payment is invalid, I had no choice but
to refund/cancel. If they want to place a new order, I'm Ok with that (after
I know they have a valid address).

  If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

So, I looked at that page. The disclaimer at the top ...

   Please do not report problems with your buyer or seller to this page. Problem regarding your buyer or seller in a transaction should be reported to the Problem Order page. This page is for reporting problem members other than transaction-related.

makes me question if this is an appropriate use of the page. When does this report
apply ?

You questioned the address.
In the Problem Center there are no other options when it's not about NPB.

Here is the help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=265


I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 10:50
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  […]
I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

Sellers can offer pick-up, and an address would be irrelevant in that case. 
So a valid address isn’t mandatory for buyers and it’s not a legal requirement.
(It sure is very inconvenient to not have one for delivery )

Anyway, I think (and I think that’s what Brickwilbo meant) that if you have doubts
about the legitimacy of a buyer, and an invalid address can be a clue of that,
then you can flag the buyer to BL through that form and let BL decide if it’s
a problem (maybe an underage buyer, or a duplicate account…) or not.
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 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 12:58
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In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  […]
I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

Sellers can offer pick-up, and an address would be irrelevant in that case. 
So a valid address isn’t mandatory for buyers and it’s not a legal requirement.
(It sure is very inconvenient to not have one for delivery )

Anyway, I think (and I think that’s what Brickwilbo meant) that if you have doubts
about the legitimacy of a buyer, and an invalid address can be a clue of that,
then you can flag the buyer to BL through that form and let BL decide if it’s
a problem (maybe an underage buyer, or a duplicate account…) or not.

Exactly. 😉
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
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Location:  USA, Florida
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Store: Cosmic Toys
In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  […]
I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

Sellers can offer pick-up, and an address would be irrelevant in that case. 
So a valid address isn’t mandatory for buyers and it’s not a legal requirement.
(It sure is very inconvenient to not have one for delivery )

Anyway, I think (and I think that’s what Brickwilbo meant) that if you have doubts
about the legitimacy of a buyer, and an invalid address can be a clue of that,
then you can flag the buyer to BL through that form and let BL decide if it’s
a problem (maybe an underage buyer, or a duplicate account…) or not.

Exactly. 😉

Seller's can offer pickup, but that does not erase the need for a legitimate
for the vast majority of orders placed here.

This is not a debating society, this is a marketplace, where the majority of
sales are shipped, and an address that is valid is a requirement, not an optional
nicety.

Nita Rae
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  […]
I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

Sellers can offer pick-up, and an address would be irrelevant in that case. 
So a valid address isn’t mandatory for buyers and it’s not a legal requirement.
(It sure is very inconvenient to not have one for delivery )

Anyway, I think (and I think that’s what Brickwilbo meant) that if you have doubts
about the legitimacy of a buyer, and an invalid address can be a clue of that,
then you can flag the buyer to BL through that form and let BL decide if it’s
a problem (maybe an underage buyer, or a duplicate account…) or not.

Exactly. 😉

Seller's can offer pickup, but that does not erase the need for a legitimate
for the vast majority of orders placed here.

This is not a debating society, this is a marketplace, where the majority of
sales are shipped, and an address that is valid is a requirement, not an optional
nicety.

+1
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 Posted: Jan 19, 2022 16:19
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  […]
I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

Sellers can offer pick-up, and an address would be irrelevant in that case. 
So a valid address isn’t mandatory for buyers and it’s not a legal requirement.
(It sure is very inconvenient to not have one for delivery )

Anyway, I think (and I think that’s what Brickwilbo meant) that if you have doubts
about the legitimacy of a buyer, and an invalid address can be a clue of that,
then you can flag the buyer to BL through that form and let BL decide if it’s
a problem (maybe an underage buyer, or a duplicate account…) or not.

Exactly. 😉

Seller's can offer pickup, but that does not erase the need for a legitimate
for the vast majority of orders placed here.

This is not a debating society, this is a marketplace, where the majority of
sales are shipped, and an address that is valid is a requirement, not an optional
nicety.

Nita Rae

The exactly was meant about the concerns mentioned in the second part.
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Did you contact the buyer and asked about the address?

I have now. Since the address on the payment is invalid, I had no choice but
to refund/cancel. If they want to place a new order, I'm Ok with that (after
I know they have a valid address).

  If you want Admin to take a look report here: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp

So, I looked at that page. The disclaimer at the top ...

   Please do not report problems with your buyer or seller to this page. Problem regarding your buyer or seller in a transaction should be reported to the Problem Order page. This page is for reporting problem members other than transaction-related.

makes me question if this is an appropriate use of the page. When does this report
apply ?

You questioned the address.
In the Problem Center there are no other options when it's not about NPB.

Here is the help page: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=265


I read the Help Page. If references the BrickLink Terms of Service. I have scanned
that, for the word 'address'. I see where it says the seller has to supply
proof of their address, I see legal terms involving address, but I see nothing
about the buyer's address needing to be valid to place orders. It's a
simple concept, but I do not believe it is in there.

There is nothing in '5. Buyer Terms:' that mentions a valid address (unless
you want to take the position that it is being offloaded to the seller's
Terms by reference).

Nita Rae

1. Eligibility

'You agree to provide accurate, current, and complete information about yourself,
and you agree to maintain and promptly update all information about yourself."

This includes an accurate shipping address. 😉

I understand your concern about the shipping address.

You can always contact the buyer and ask him instead of reporting the member
for Admin for review, without naming in the forum.
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.

To be clear on this point: Pirate Ship does check the address, but they don't
wave a big red flag if the address does not match. They only give you options
if the address kinda matches, and they think they know which one it might be.
They call it 'suggestions'. This is the same as what you get back from
USPS if you go to their zip+4 page and enter an address.

If the street address is completely unusable (but the city and zip look OK),
PS says nothing to that effect. There is no option on PS that forces you to stop
and take a serious look at the validity of the address. All they do is remain
silent.

Nita Rae
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.

To be clear on this point: Pirate Ship does check the address, but they don't
wave a big red flag if the address does not match. They only give you options
if the address kinda matches, and they think they know which one it might be.
They call it 'suggestions'. This is the same as what you get back from
USPS if you go to their zip+4 page and enter an address. […]

Guh, suggestions.
Some sites, like S@H, always want to change my address, removing the important
bits (like building and appartment number… or even my name!).  It’s a pain.

S@H also always proposed me a wrong default address.  I eventually found that
it had stored like 20 times the exact same and correct address and the one bad
one… well not exactly bad, it’s just that a line was too long and everything
didn’t show once printed.  But it kept proposing that one instead of the last
one used / the invoicing address.
(Yeah, the invoicing address was correct!)
I cleaned them all, so I hope next time it will work. *sigh*
Well, that’s another story anyway, but guh addresses and suggestions….
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae

Four days in, and the member has not acknowledged or replied to my Contact.

One of the discoveries, that fell out of this situation, is that Pirate Ship
will cue you (although subtly) if it cannot get a good lock on the address entered.
When you are configuring to ship a single label, enter all the information, and
then click "Get Rates". Up at the upper-left, you will see the buyer's name
(in bold) with the address information beneath it. If the zip code appears as
a 5 digit number, then there may be a problem. If you see a zip+4, then it is
likely to be a known address. This is a quick check, and requires no additional
effort.

Nita Rae
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae


I copy-and-paste addresses from Paypal to PirateShip. Sometimes, the address
does not come out quite right -- sometimes the apartment number gets truncated
or some other snafu messes up the address.

If I do not catch this error BEFORE printing the label, I then print out the
correct address onto plain paper and do old-fashioned cut-and-paste and tape
the new address over top of the bad address on the label. No need to cancel
the label and re-print or any of that.

Twice due to a bad address on a label, packages have been returned to me. I
simply Re-Printed the original label with the bad address and taped the correct
address over top of the bad address. Then, I used that duplicate label to ship
the parcel a second time. No label cancellation and re-purchase required. They
were both re-delivered using the same postage as the first trip. You may sacrifice
accurate USPS tracking for the second trip.

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In Problem, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae


I copy-and-paste addresses from Paypal to PirateShip. Sometimes, the address
does not come out quite right -- sometimes the apartment number gets truncated
or some other snafu messes up the address.

If I do not catch this error BEFORE printing the label, I then print out the
correct address onto plain paper and do old-fashioned cut-and-paste and tape
the new address over top of the bad address on the label. No need to cancel
the label and re-print or any of that.

Twice due to a bad address on a label, packages have been returned to me. I
simply Re-Printed the original label with the bad address and taped the correct
address over top of the bad address. Then, I used that duplicate label to ship
the parcel a second time. No label cancellation and re-purchase required. They
were both re-delivered using the same postage as the first trip. You may sacrifice
accurate USPS tracking for the second trip.

____

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure no one at USPS actually looks at the
label until the package is with the recipient's mail carrier - everything
is pulled from the tracking number. If the address is off by more than an apartment
number or something, you might find the package gets delayed or lost.
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In Problem, aboyer writes:
  In Problem, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae


I copy-and-paste addresses from Paypal to PirateShip. Sometimes, the address
does not come out quite right -- sometimes the apartment number gets truncated
or some other snafu messes up the address.

If I do not catch this error BEFORE printing the label, I then print out the
correct address onto plain paper and do old-fashioned cut-and-paste and tape
the new address over top of the bad address on the label. No need to cancel
the label and re-print or any of that.

Twice due to a bad address on a label, packages have been returned to me. I
simply Re-Printed the original label with the bad address and taped the correct
address over top of the bad address. Then, I used that duplicate label to ship
the parcel a second time. No label cancellation and re-purchase required. They
were both re-delivered using the same postage as the first trip. You may sacrifice
accurate USPS tracking for the second trip.

____

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure no one at USPS actually looks at the
label until the package is with the recipient's mail carrier - everything
is pulled from the tracking number. If the address is off by more than an apartment
number or something, you might find the package gets delayed or lost.

True.

My second bad address occurrence was simply missing the correct apartment number
(#101) but the postman (likely standing at the mailbox cluster in the building)
decided to not figure out the correct box number and re-routed the package all
way back to me. So, the label was 99 percent correct and re-delivery went without
a hitch.

My first bad address had a totally wrong city and zip code on the original label.
So, after I pasted the corrected address on it and sent it back out, that parcel
DID end up at the wrong post office a second time, but was quickly routed correctly
and delivered successfully.

All good in my opinion. I am happy and my buyers are happy. No cause for alarm
or lost sleep.

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In Problem, aboyer writes:
  In Problem, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Problem, cosmicray writes:
  If you have received an order from this member, validate the address with the
USPS page before printing postage. The address I was given is totally invalid.

PayPal did not check or validate it. Pirate Ship did not check or validate it.
Only after the label was printed did I notice that the zip was missing the +4,
so I checked with USPS and with search engine. Both were unable to find the street,
much less the address.

I am not out the PP fee, and I have to wait (up to 30 days) for the postage to
be refunded.

Nita Rae


I copy-and-paste addresses from Paypal to PirateShip. Sometimes, the address
does not come out quite right -- sometimes the apartment number gets truncated
or some other snafu messes up the address.

If I do not catch this error BEFORE printing the label, I then print out the
correct address onto plain paper and do old-fashioned cut-and-paste and tape
the new address over top of the bad address on the label. No need to cancel
the label and re-print or any of that.

Twice due to a bad address on a label, packages have been returned to me. I
simply Re-Printed the original label with the bad address and taped the correct
address over top of the bad address. Then, I used that duplicate label to ship
the parcel a second time. No label cancellation and re-purchase required. They
were both re-delivered using the same postage as the first trip. You may sacrifice
accurate USPS tracking for the second trip.

____

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure no one at USPS actually looks at the
label until the package is with the recipient's mail carrier - everything
is pulled from the tracking number. If the address is off by more than an apartment
number or something, you might find the package gets delayed or lost.

The tracking number equates to a specific address. Normally, there is a zip+4
delivery point (which could be one side of one block, or more specific). Because
of fraud, USPS seems to be more picky about delivering to the specified address.
In the instance that started this thread, the street name was non-existent. Had
I shipped it out, it would have been returned.

I'm now at +6 days since the order was placed, and still no response from
the buyer, Either their BL emails are turned off, or they don't care. IP
address may be in Taxes.

Nita Rae
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In Problem, cosmicray writes:
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IP address may be in Taxes.

Interesting typo