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| | | Author: | axaday  | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2022 16:54 | | Subject: | New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 187 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| It can be fairly obvious to get all the Spider-Man figures in a search, but a
couple notes. We would also tie Peter Parker figures to the Spider-Man figures
and Bruce Wayne figures to Batman figures and perhaps Rex and Emmet.
But there is also an increasing trend of things like this:
and are a couple that come to Chinese New Years events
dressed alike. You can find them last year as and .
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 04:06 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | It can be fairly obvious to get all the Spider-Man figures in a search, but a
couple notes. We would also tie Peter Parker figures to the Spider-Man figures
and Bruce Wayne figures to Batman figures and perhaps Rex and Emmet.
But there is also an increasing trend of things like this:
and are a couple that come to Chinese New Years events
dressed alike. You can find them last year as and .
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How would those man / woman examples be the same character? There might be an
implied relationship such as twins or marriage, but would that linked relationship
also be applied to, for example, two football players or two musicians that are
not the same character.
Surely similar looking characters should have similar keywords in their name.
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| | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 08:44 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | How would those man / woman examples be the same character? There might be an
implied relationship such as twins or marriage, but would that linked relationship
also be applied to, for example, two football players or two musicians that are
not the same character.
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I think I was unclear. I didn't mean to link the man with the woman. I
meant to link the two men and link the two women. Their behind together, dressed
alike, in 2 CNY sets is just (to me) the last bit of evidence needed to say they
are the same people.
| | Surely similar looking characters should have similar keywords in their name.
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Often. All the Spider-man are called Spider-man, but the Peter Parkers aren't.
The way we describe town figures doesn't connect them at all. Those CNY
people above are only connected by having black hair.
There are similar City sets that have the same family with the same parents and
the child growing up. We have a couple of Iron Man figures without helmets that
you might expect to find in a search for Tony Stark but won't.
and have similar keywords in their name "Minifigure Only
Entry"
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 09:38 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
I guess that could also be handled with tags but I like relationships better.
Voted yes.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | How would those man / woman examples be the same character? There might be an
implied relationship such as twins or marriage, but would that linked relationship
also be applied to, for example, two football players or two musicians that are
not the same character.
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I think I was unclear. I didn't mean to link the man with the woman. I
meant to link the two men and link the two women. Their behind together, dressed
alike, in 2 CNY sets is just (to me) the last bit of evidence needed to say they
are the same people.
| | Surely similar looking characters should have similar keywords in their name.
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Often. All the Spider-man are called Spider-man, but the Peter Parkers aren't.
The way we describe town figures doesn't connect them at all. Those CNY
people above are only connected by having black hair.
There are similar City sets that have the same family with the same parents and
the child growing up. We have a couple of Iron Man figures without helmets that
you might expect to find in a search for Tony Stark but won't.
and have similar keywords in their name "Minifigure Only
Entry"
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Where would this information be shown? As for some characters there would be
a lot of info needing to be shown to show all equivalences (such as Anakin /
Vader, more than 50 figures).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 18:26 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | How would those man / woman examples be the same character? There might be an
implied relationship such as twins or marriage, but would that linked relationship
also be applied to, for example, two football players or two musicians that are
not the same character.
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I think I was unclear. I didn't mean to link the man with the woman. I
meant to link the two men and link the two women. Their behind together, dressed
alike, in 2 CNY sets is just (to me) the last bit of evidence needed to say they
are the same people.
| | Surely similar looking characters should have similar keywords in their name.
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Often. All the Spider-man are called Spider-man, but the Peter Parkers aren't.
The way we describe town figures doesn't connect them at all. Those CNY
people above are only connected by having black hair.
There are similar City sets that have the same family with the same parents and
the child growing up. We have a couple of Iron Man figures without helmets that
you might expect to find in a search for Tony Stark but won't.
and have similar keywords in their name "Minifigure Only
Entry"
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Where would this information be shown? As for some characters there would be
a lot of info needing to be shown to show all equivalences (such as Anakin /
Vader, more than 50 figures).
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Yep. This kind of stuff would be much better handled with tags, but I don't
think any of it is particularly necessary.
In the case of characters, I don't think a minifigure that represents Spider-Man
needs to be tagged with Peter Parker or linked in any way to a Peter Parker
minifigure. It is a plastic minifigure that cannot change out of costume, so
it will always look like Spider-Man. And the Peter Parker figure will always
look like Peter Parker. The same goes for the Darth Vader / Anakin situation.
And I don't even know why we need to know that two people from two different
CNY sets are *possibly* in reference to the same characters. They might not be.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2022 07:40 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | Yep. This kind of stuff would be much better handled with tags, but I don't
think any of it is particularly necessary.
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Bricklink Catalog either is or isn't the central repository for information
about Lego.
| | And I don't even know why we need to know that two people from two different
CNY sets are *possibly* in reference to the same characters. They might not be.
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Lego does this stuff intending for it to be noticed. They are. Police and Fire
sets come with a lot of people in the same clothes, but townies dressed alike
are a noticable thing. Another set the next year with the same faces and the
same head in the same narrow release theme? They are.
Less of a slamdunk, but and
* | | cty0666 (Inv) Medium Lavender Jacket over Lavender Shirt, Medium Blue Legs, Dark Orange Female Hair Short Swept Sideways
Minifigures: Town: City |
were in 60134 in 2016 with
a baby and then and are together camping with a little
boy in 60182 2 years later.
There are variable levels of this. Oughtn't at least the Wolf Guy and the
Lumberjack be connected in some way?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2022 08:26 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Lego does this stuff intending for it to be noticed. They are. Police and Fire
sets come with a lot of people in the same clothes, but townies dressed alike
are a noticable thing. Another set the next year with the same faces and the
same head in the same narrow release theme? They are.
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Do they intend for people to notice that the minifigures in one set are similar
to those in another set, or do they hope that nobody notices that they keep
using the same minifig parts again and again without coming up with new designs?
Unless they start naming characters (like they are doing in some City sets),
I don't see that there is a formal relationship between similar looking minifigs.
Otherwise, it is speculation that similar looking minifigures are definitely
intended to be the same character. If two characters have the same clothes and
hair but different heads / expressions, are they the same person? If they have
different clothes but the same head and hair, are they the same (just changed
outfit)? What if only the hair is the same, have they changed clothes and got
a different expression on their face. What if they dyed their hair and changed
clothes ...?
It is a nice Easter egg type feature that sometimes family groups appear to be
repeated in sets over the years, but does it really need to be catalogued as
fact?
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 17, 2022 09:42 | | Subject: | Re: New Relationship - Minifigs Same Character | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | It can be fairly obvious to get all the Spider-Man figures in a search, but a
couple notes. We would also tie Peter Parker figures to the Spider-Man figures
and Bruce Wayne figures to Batman figures and perhaps Rex and Emmet.
But there is also an increasing trend of things like this:
and are a couple that come to Chinese New Years events
dressed alike. You can find them last year as and .
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This seems useful in general but how do we know the examples given are of the
same characters? And wouldn't identifying characters also mean naming them?
For Bruce Wayne/Batman, Tony Stark/Iron Man - that's easy. But random people
attending public celebrations?
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