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 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: Oct 26, 2021 01:34
 Subject: 2453 Undetermined type changes
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here4bricks614 (180)

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I have these sets. Stop motion videos found online can also provide more confirmation.

Set 9468's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud) (This set has 2453b
as the alternate to the undetermined type. Perhaps this was an error? I don't
quite understand there needing to be an undetermined type if there is a non-UDT
type in the set.)

Set 6860's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud)

Set 3834's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 8971's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 2856134's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Oct 26, 2021 02:10
 Subject: Re: 2453 Undetermined type changes
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In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  I have these sets. Stop motion videos found online can also provide more confirmation.

Set 9468's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud) (This set has 2453b
as the alternate to the undetermined type. Perhaps this was an error? I don't
quite understand there needing to be an undetermined type if there is a non-UDT
type in the set.)

Set 6860's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud)

Set 3834's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 8971's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 2856134's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Please submit inventory change requests for these sets and put a link and take
a screen shots of those requests. Then these requests will be accepted under
your name.
At the bottom of each inventory, there is a link to submit a change.

See for example
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?nID=1209817&q=2453&qS=Y&qM=Y&v=c&mTP=N&max=100

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1213251
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Oct 26, 2021 05:37
 Subject: Re: 2453 Undetermined type changes
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In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  I have these sets. Stop motion videos found online can also provide more confirmation.

Set 9468's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud) (This set has 2453b
as the alternate to the undetermined type. Perhaps this was an error? I don't
quite understand there needing to be an undetermined type if there is a non-UDT
type in the set.)

In this case (and many similar ones) the undetermined entry is like a flag for
us to show that the set maybe or likely also came with the other variant in
sets from earlier production runs. It is a result of an improperly variant split:
- When the set was inventoried in 2012, there was the determined 2453b (Solid
Stud) entry and also still the original 2453 entry which didn't specify the
variant.
- 2453 was later marked for deletion and the proper 2453a variant was added (in
2017 in this case). So it is possible the original submitter of the inventory
interpreted 2453 as 2453a.
- Therefore we have to check such inventories individually and cannot just remove
the undetermined entry.

For set 9468 I think we can assume it never came with 2453a as that variant was
phased out in early 2012.

 
Part No: 2453a  Name: Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Hollow Stud
* 
2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Hollow Stud
Parts: Brick
 
Part No: 2453b  Name: Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Solid Stud
* 
2453b Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Solid Stud
Parts: Brick
 
Part No: 2453  Name: Brick 1 x 1 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
* 
2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Brick

  
Set 6860's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453b (Solid Stud)

Set 3834's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 8971's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

Set 2856134's 2453 (Undetermined Type) is 2453a (Blocked Open Stud or Hollow
Stud)

See Sezar's answer.