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 Subject: where can I bring up an error in part number?
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Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Oct 10, 2021 16:14
 Subject: Re: where can I bring up an error in part number?
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In Help, S. writes:
  Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks

You can bring it up right here, you just have to specify which part you are talking
about.
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 Posted: Oct 10, 2021 16:41
 Subject: Re: where can I bring up an error in part number?
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In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  In Help, S. writes:
  Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks

You can bring it up right here, you just have to specify which part you are talking
about.

Ah cool, just wasn't sure if it would be seen by the admins or whatever if
I just posted it here.

Part 47458 and 81300 are listed as the same part, but the latter has a thicker
wall on the underside, meaning it has clutch power on the centre bar. The former
does not, and therefore cannot be connected to a hollow/open stud in the centre
of the part.

Here is a Eurobrick thread I made with pics etc. on it to explain better:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/187736-part-47458-has-zero-clutch-power/
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 10, 2021 16:47
 Subject: Re: where can I bring up an error in part number?
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In Catalog, S. writes:
  In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  In Help, S. writes:
  Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks

You can bring it up right here, you just have to specify which part you are talking
about.

Ah cool, just wasn't sure if it would be seen by the admins or whatever if
I just posted it here.

Part 47458 and 81300 are listed as the same part, but the latter has a thicker
wall on the underside, meaning it has clutch power on the centre bar. The former
does not, and therefore cannot be connected to a hollow/open stud in the centre
of the part.

Here is a Eurobrick thread I made with pics etc. on it to explain better:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/187736-part-47458-has-zero-clutch-power/

Yeah, this is right. The original has no clutch. Interesting difference and good
spot!
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 Posted: Oct 11, 2021 10:24
 Subject: Re: where can I bring up an error in part number?
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In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, S. writes:
  In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  In Help, S. writes:
  Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks

You can bring it up right here, you just have to specify which part you are talking
about.

Ah cool, just wasn't sure if it would be seen by the admins or whatever if
I just posted it here.

Part 47458 and 81300 are listed as the same part, but the latter has a thicker
wall on the underside, meaning it has clutch power on the centre bar. The former
does not, and therefore cannot be connected to a hollow/open stud in the centre
of the part.

Here is a Eurobrick thread I made with pics etc. on it to explain better:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/187736-part-47458-has-zero-clutch-power/

Yeah, this is right. The original has no clutch. Interesting difference and good
spot!

I'm hoping they get made into separate entries, I need a pearl Gold one with
clutch in the centre but not sure if one exists yet
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Oct 11, 2021 11:46
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I'm hoping they get made into separate entries, I need a pearl Gold one with
clutch in the centre but not sure if one exists yet

You don't need to wait for a catalog update. I would suggest that you contact
sellers you are planning to buy from and ask to confirm which version they have.

It may take a while for the catalog to be updated (if admins agree a separate
entry is needed), and even longer for sellers to correct their listings. Many
never will.

Even for variants that have been separated in the catalog for years, I would
recommend checking with the seller first if you absolutely need a specific version.

BTW I checked my inventory in Pearl Gold and they are all the older version.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 20, 2022 22:22
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In Catalog Requests, S. writes:
  In Catalog, Brick.Door writes:
  In Help, S. writes:
  Not exactly an error, but I didn't know what else to write given the strict
char limit in the Subject

Basically there's a new version of a part with a significant but visually
hard to notice difference, which is categorised as the exact same part as the
older version. It was released this year I believe, so maybe it just hasn't
been updated yet, but I think the difference is subtle enough to have been missed.
The new part number is just classed as an Alternate Version, although it is functionally
different to the new part

Where is the best place for me to post about this so it can be changed? Thanks

You can bring it up right here, you just have to specify which part you are talking
about.

Ah cool, just wasn't sure if it would be seen by the admins or whatever if
I just posted it here.

Part 47458 and 81300 are listed as the same part, but the latter has a thicker
wall on the underside, meaning it has clutch power on the centre bar. The former
does not, and therefore cannot be connected to a hollow/open stud in the centre
of the part.

Here is a Eurobrick thread I made with pics etc. on it to explain better:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/187736-part-47458-has-zero-clutch-power/


A note was added to the part:

 
Part No: 47458  Name: Slope, Curved 1 x 2 x 2/3 Wing End
* 
47458 Slope, Curved 1 x 2 x 2/3 Wing End
Parts: Slope, Curved

"There are at least two versions of this part. Those with item number 47458 have
a thinner wall than those with alternate item number 81300. This results in the
latter part being able to clutch a hollow stud in the center whereas the former
cannot."

The part was also added to the "Unsplit Part Variants" list:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=24&catID=438

If a build comes along that needs the specific functionality of the newer version,
then the part will be split appropriately.

Cheers,
Randy