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| | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff  | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 19:47 | | Subject: | No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 372 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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| | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 20:08 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 86 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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As much as I agree with you the Term "Fluted" is the CORRECT name no matter what,
I'll go as far as saying it SHOULD have been called Fluted Hor/Ver Brick
Horizontal/Vertical
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| | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 20:11 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Macaronis writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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As much as I agree with you the Term "Fluted" is the CORRECT name no matter what,
I'll go as far as saying it SHOULD have been called Fluted Hor/Ver Brick
Horizontal/Vertical
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Yeah, Fluted is more correct. I don't have a problem with the name change
-- only that the old name was NOT cross-referenced and is no longer searchable.
This breaks not only BL searches, but searches from other sources that bring
buyers here.
The BL Catalog does NOT exist to just be a catalog. This is a COMMERCE Website
and the catalog exists to make buying and selling better and easier and generate
sales and revenue. Otherwise, the catalog is worthless crap.
CROSS-REFERENCE STUFF, dammit.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 20:59 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 87 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Catalog, Macaronis writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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As much as I agree with you the Term "Fluted" is the CORRECT name no matter what,
I'll go as far as saying it SHOULD have been called Fluted Hor/Ver Brick
Horizontal/Vertical
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Yeah, Fluted is more correct. I don't have a problem with the name change
-- only that the old name was NOT cross-referenced and is no longer searchable.
This breaks not only BL searches, but searches from other sources that bring
buyers here.
The BL Catalog does NOT exist to just be a catalog. This is a COMMERCE Website
and the catalog exists to make buying and selling better and easier and generate
sales and revenue. Otherwise, the catalog is worthless crap.
CROSS-REFERENCE STUFF, dammit.
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It is fixed. I didn’t fix it. I just see it happened..
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Shiny_Stuff | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 21:34 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
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CROSS-REFERENCE STUFF, dammit.
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It is fixed. I didn’t fix it. I just see it happened..
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Excellent.
But, this kind of fix shouldn't be necessary if stuff is done properly all
the time. Old part numbers and old names should always be retained rather than
completely deleted.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 22:55 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Old part numbers and old names should always be retained rather than completely deleted.
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No, they shouldn’t. They should *sometimes* be retained. Sometimes the numbers
and names are just plain wrong and should be deleted.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Sep 8, 2021 23:46 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 79 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| What about this part:
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Old part numbers and old names should always be retained rather than completely deleted.
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No, they shouldn’t. They should *sometimes* be retained. Sometimes the numbers
and names are just plain wrong and should be deleted.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wahiggin | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 08:19 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, zorbanj writes:
| | What about this part:
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | Old part numbers and old names should always be retained rather than completely deleted.
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No, they shouldn’t. They should *sometimes* be retained. Sometimes the numbers
and names are just plain wrong and should be deleted.
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It should have "grill" added to the name as well. I've never heard of "fluted"
before.
Wesley
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 02:19 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
In simple terms if a parrot has always been called a pidgeon I'd rather not
have to continue to use this incorrect term to find it. I would rather experience
some initial disruption but have the item changed to its correct definition but
that also means not holding onto existing/old incorrect definitions i.e if a
parrot is a parrot lets call it that it shouldn't be described as 'Parrot
(Pidgeon)' for the sake of holding onto old definitions
Where I do agree though is that fluted bricks is certainly not a term I would
ever use. I prefer the term Grooves to be used instead or if not instead alongside
fluted!
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1974 | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 08:01 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| That's actually a bad example
The parrot (2546) has been in numerous sets (all the castle sets) where it's
not depicting a parrot but a bird of prey
That part in mono colour should just be named "bird" and the multicolour ones
"parrot"
Cheers,
Ole
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In simple terms if a parrot has always been called a pidgeon I'd rather not
have to continue to use this incorrect term to find it. I would rather experience
some initial disruption but have the item changed to its correct definition but
that also means not holding onto existing/old incorrect definitions i.e if a
parrot is a parrot lets call it that it shouldn't be described as 'Parrot
(Pidgeon)' for the sake of holding onto old definitions
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, 1974 writes:
| | That's actually a bad example
The parrot (2546) has been in numerous sets (all the castle sets) where it's
not depicting a parrot but a bird of prey
That part in mono colour should just be named "bird" and the multicolour ones
"parrot"
Cheers,
Ole
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In simple terms if a parrot has always been called a pidgeon I'd rather not
have to continue to use this incorrect term to find it. I would rather experience
some initial disruption but have the item changed to its correct definition but
that also means not holding onto existing/old incorrect definitions i.e if a
parrot is a parrot lets call it that it shouldn't be described as 'Parrot
(Pidgeon)' for the sake of holding onto old definitions
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No it needs to have the same description regardless of colour otherwise you’d
start heading down the route of calling an orange fish Goldfish and a silver
one something else? Either way you do get Grey parrots too you know?
That said it goes without saying that the mold design was always intended to
be a parrot foremost yet the fact that Lego tried to squeeze another use out
of the same mold by referencing it as a bird of prey doesn’t really make it any
less parrot to me but that doesn’t mean I have any issue with it being called
‘Bird / Parrot / Bird of Prey’ Either way all this completely side-lines the
main point I was making which is that a part should never remain the same description
just because it has always been known as that description and the example I used
was pigeon something the part certainly is not!
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| | | | | | | Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 09:36 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In the US, this is a grill . Which looks just like the brick pattern.
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
In simple terms if a parrot has always been called a pidgeon I'd rather not
have to continue to use this incorrect term to find it. I would rather experience
some initial disruption but have the item changed to its correct definition but
that also means not holding onto existing/old incorrect definitions i.e if a
parrot is a parrot lets call it that it shouldn't be described as 'Parrot
(Pidgeon)' for the sake of holding onto old definitions
Where I do agree though is that fluted bricks is certainly not a term I would
ever use. I prefer the term Grooves to be used instead or if not instead alongside
fluted!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, starbeanie writes:
| | In the US, this is a grill . Which looks just like the brick pattern.
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
In simple terms if a parrot has always been called a pidgeon I'd rather not
have to continue to use this incorrect term to find it. I would rather experience
some initial disruption but have the item changed to its correct definition but
that also means not holding onto existing/old incorrect definitions i.e if a
parrot is a parrot lets call it that it shouldn't be described as 'Parrot
(Pidgeon)' for the sake of holding onto old definitions
Where I do agree though is that fluted bricks is certainly not a term I would
ever use. I prefer the term Grooves to be used instead or if not instead alongside
fluted!
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In the UK your example is also a grill/grille but this particular part is very
much just a brick with grooves. A Grill is flat and has lines/holes where you
can see through to the other side
This to me this is a grille:-
Or anywhere it’s specifically depicting that of a grille like here:-
Whereas that part is very generic and the grooves could be used for absolutely
anything from the texture of an animal build to that of a wooden shed
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| | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 09:55 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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I think all of the pieces that are bars connected together that go on the front
of a vehicle or up at windows and similar uses are called "grille" on BL. So
calling this one a grill without the e is a bit odd.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 10:51 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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I think all of the pieces that are bars connected together that go on the front
of a vehicle or up at windows and similar uses are called "grille" on BL. So
calling this one a grill without the e is a bit odd.
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Agreed.
Only this part and cooking implements use the word “grill”: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=grill&catType=P&catID=
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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Yes but not exclusively as its primarily just a brick with grooves which has
many more uses than just respreseting that of a grille
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:06 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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Yes but not exclusively as its primarily just a brick with grooves which has
many more uses than just respreseting that of a grille
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For now the word "Groove" has a specific meaning in the part names on BL.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:26 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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Yes but not exclusively as its primarily just a brick with grooves which has
many more uses than just respreseting that of a grille
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For now the word "Groove" has a specific meaning in the part names on BL.
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Yet we still have bricks like these with the description ‘with groove’:-
The only difference being that these ones come with multiple grooves
To refer to those grooves as grill especially on that cylinder one seems bizarre
to me
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:29 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
| | | | I understand your frustration with not being able to find an item using a keyword
you've always used but the problem is 'Grill' is totally the wrong
term for it as a Grille/Grill is very much a thin sheet like material (usually
metal) the kind of which you find on the front of a car or as vent on a wall
etc... therefore I'm not even sure why the word Grill has been re-added to
the description again?
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It's often used to depict a thin sheet in builds such as a vent cover which
would essentially be a Grille.
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Yes but not exclusively as its primarily just a brick with grooves which has
many more uses than just respreseting that of a grille
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For now the word "Groove" has a specific meaning in the part names on BL.
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Yet we still have bricks like these with the description ‘with groove’:-
The only difference being that these ones come with multiple grooves
To refer to those grooves as grill especially on that cylinder one seems bizarre
to me
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sorry I meant to say
not
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 02:50 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
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When people you know call them grill bricks, what is the meaning of the word
grill? I thought the term here was grille, which matches all the other metal
bar type pieces in the catalogue if they are being used as a grille on a vent
or similar.
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| | | | | Author: | Reki_Lobsheek | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 04:37 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| imagine searching for a flute (87994pb02) and landing on a brick instead ...
Erikk
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 04:42 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Erkiles writes:
| | imagine searching for a flute (87994pb02) and landing on a brick instead ...
Erikk
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You wouldn't find that if searching for a flute. The bricks are described
as fluted or with flutes, as there are multiple flutes on the bricks (and lamp
posts).
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 09:48 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Me too, go out of your way to learn a weird word or phrase and then boom, gone.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:09 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:22 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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In 2014:
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grille (Grill)
changed to:
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grille (Flutes)
between May and August 2018
changed to:
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Flutes / Fluted
between January and April 2021¹
changed to:
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grill Profile?
(not sure it was that, I didn’t write it down)
changed to:
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grille Profile
And you’re now asking for “with Grille Profile (Flutes)”?
¹ The last changelog entry seems to fit this date too but yesterday & today’s
changes still appear as having been done then while we know they have just been
now.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | And you’re now asking for “with Grille Profile (Flutes)”?
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No .... Brick, Modified 1 x 2 Fluted Profile (Grille)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | | | And you’re now asking for “with Grille Profile (Flutes)”?
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No .... Brick, Modified 1 x 2 Fluted Profile (Grille)
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Okay. That was just to be clear so the catmins only have to change it once again
today… if they wish to
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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Everyone happy now?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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Everyone happy now?
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Can we have a Help page with design of pieces names?
Fluted, Flutes, Tow Ball, Ball Joint, Axle Connector, Axle Hole, Pin, Bar, Minipin,
Pin Hole, etc?
So this kind of nomenclature things can be standardized.
PD: "with fluted" seems strange, but I'm not a native English speaker. Also
the definition seems to be only for vertical lines, so the Grille section could
be infornt as is a describer for the 1x2.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=flutes
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:17 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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Everyone happy now?
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Can we have a Help page with design of pieces names?
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That would be nice, but it is something for another day. We just don't have
time to work on it.
| | Fluted, Flutes, Tow Ball, Ball Joint, Axle Connector, Axle Hole, Pin, Bar, Minipin,
Pin Hole, etc?
So this kind of nomenclature things can be standardized.
PD: "with fluted" seems strange, but I'm not a native English speaker. Also
the definition seems to be only for vertical lines, so the Grille section could
be infornt as is a describer for the 1x2.
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"with Fluted Profile / Grille Profile" was simplified to "with [Fluted / Grille]
Profile"
I will change them around once more, but then I am done.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:20 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
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| | Everyone happy now?
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Can we have a Help page with design of pieces names?
Fluted, Flutes, Tow Ball, Ball Joint, Axle Connector, Axle Hole, Pin, Bar, Minipin,
Pin Hole, etc?
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+1
| | So this kind of nomenclature things can be standardized.
PD: "with fluted" seems strange, but I'm not a native English speaker. […]
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It’s actually “Fluted Profile / Grille Profile” where “Profile” has been factored,
a c / b c = a / b c.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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Here you go:
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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Everyone happy now?
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Can we have a Help page with design of pieces names?
Fluted, Flutes, Tow Ball, Ball Joint, Axle Connector, Axle Hole, Pin, Bar, Minipin,
Pin Hole, etc?
So this kind of nomenclature things can be standardized.
PD: "with fluted" seems strange, but I'm not a native English speaker. Also
the definition seems to be only for vertical lines, so the Grille section could
be infornt as is a describer for the 1x2.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=flutes
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Those lamp posts need "flutes" rather than "fluted", as there is a count of them
to differentiate them. It could be called a fluted base with 4/6 flutes, but
that is probably over the top.
I thought "with fluted" was fine as it was "with fluted / grille profile", that
is, the profile had fluted or grille pattern. Still, so long as the words grille,
fluted and profile are in the description it is OK for searches. Personally I
don't see the need for "with" as it doesn't really do anything.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 17:52 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Why can't they retain the fluted keyword too?
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Everyone happy now?
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No! There is more than one flute so "profile with flutes" is better than "fluted"
Also, I'm 100% kidding.
I still maintain that these are called "radiator bricks".
https://www.instagram.com/p/CILuB_7ptKc/
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| | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 13:49 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Randyf,
Thanks for doing this, I asked about part # 92947 earlier in the thread.
In Catalog, randyf writes:
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| | | | | Author: | tec | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
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this earns you a VIP seat into a certain comic, yes
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| | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Please share the link, it isn't the easiest to remember (well, I can't
remember it) and everybody on here deserves to be introduced to it.
In Catalog, tec writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
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this earns you a VIP seat into a certain comic, yes
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 15:00 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, MrPetovan writes:
| | Please share the link, it isn't the easiest to remember (well, I can't
remember it) and everybody on here deserves to be introduced to it.
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http://v4ei.com/
Seems he is on vacation.
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In Catalog, tec writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
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this earns you a VIP seat into a certain comic, yes
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 15:14 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thanks, I remembered "v4", over the next 6 months I'm confident I'll
be able to remember "v4e", with remembering the complete domain name around August
2022.
In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, MrPetovan writes:
| | Please share the link, it isn't the easiest to remember (well, I can't
remember it) and everybody on here deserves to be introduced to it.
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http://v4ei.com/
Seems he is on vacation.
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| | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The change history of the part shows that it's never been possible to search
for "grill brick" and get it as a result.
It was first called Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Flutes / Fluted until six
months ago when it was renamed to Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grille / Fluted
Profile, but neither of these names would match the search term "grill brick"
because of the missing "e" in "grill".
So the recent name change would actually go in your direction if you had been
using the right search term as "grill" would be incorrect no matter what.
Who is the "flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed moronic milkman" now?
In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Name changes made by admins are not recorded in the logs. There have been many
more name changes to this part over the years that are not shown. For a more
detailed history of the name of the part, see Sylvain's post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1303005
I do feel the current names that were settled on earlier today are now the best
they can be for most people.
The name should definitely have never included the word "grill", as that is completely
incorrect as you said.
In Catalog, MrPetovan writes:
| | The change history of the part shows that it's never been possible to search
for "grill brick" and get it as a result.
It was first called Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Flutes / Fluted until six
months ago when it was renamed to Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Grille / Fluted
Profile, but neither of these names would match the search term "grill brick"
because of the missing "e" in "grill".
So the recent name change would actually go in your direction if you had been
using the right search term as "grill" would be incorrect no matter what.
Who is the "flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed moronic milkman" now?
In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?nID=&viewDate=Y&viewType=E&viewStatus=A&itemID=232
I get so burned up every time part names or numbers get changed and the old name
or number gets completely obliterated instead of left as a cross-reference.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 14:06 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Thank you for the elaboration, the missing changes in the log are very unfortunate.
I can see that the name once comprised both "grill" and "grille" so I now understand
Shiny_stuff's confusion, but their elaborate insult hurled at the last regular
user to request a valid name change still was unwarranted as "grill" was a wrong
search term anyway.
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Name changes made by admins are not recorded in the logs. There have been many
more name changes to this part over the years that are not shown. For a more
detailed history of the name of the part, see Sylvain's post:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1303005
I do feel the current names that were settled on earlier today are now the best
they can be for most people.
The name should definitely have never included the word "grill", as that is completely
incorrect as you said.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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Who is the "flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed moronic milkman" now?
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Is flannel-wearing a term of abuse there? When applied to clothes, here (in UK)
it typically means a lumberjack style shirt or traditional cricket kit (known
as flannels or whites). Neither is negative.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 14:10 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | MrPetovan | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The original insult I reproduced in full was devoid of swear words but was deeply
classist ("flannel-wearing" targets the hillbilly stereotype, "cud-chewing" originates
in cows, "milkman" is low-class job) and ableist ("cross-eyed" and "moronic").
In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
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Who is the "flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed moronic milkman" now?
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Is flannel-wearing a term of abuse there? When applied to clothes, here (in UK)
it typically means a lumberjack style shirt or traditional cricket kit (known
as flannels or whites). Neither is negative.
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| | | | | Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 14:12 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
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Regardless if the change is correct or not, this name-calling is complete out
of order. I vote your account will be suspended.
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| | | | | | | Author: | legomalego | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2021 17:42 | | Subject: | Re: No More Grill Bricks at BrickLink | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| How it started: Bricklinkers are awesome!
How its going: CANCEL HIM!!!!
In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
| | In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | It is no longer possible to search for GRILL BRICK and get the proper results
-- part number 2877. Somebody thought it would be smart to change the name
and NOT provide any cross-reference to the old name.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2877
Everybody I know calls them Grill Bricks. Nobody ever says Fluted Bricks.
Nevermind -- buyers will just have to buy them someplace else like BrickOwl.
According to the records, it was a low-feedback user who changed the name, which
I assume has to be approved by an admin. What flannel-wearing cud-chewing cross-eyed
moronic milkman did this??
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Regardless if the change is correct or not, this name-calling is complete out
of order. I vote your account will be suspended.
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