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 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 15:04
 Subject: Lego is changing the material of most pieces.
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Stellar (3480)

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Since some months or a year ago I have been noticing that some parts feel the
same, newer ones have a matte finish (or not shiny?) and weight less.

For example:

 
Part No: 32184  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
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32184 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

Left matte weights 0.57g
Right shiny weights 0.64g

So be careful if you weight them to count... the difference could be big.

PD: Someone posted in the forum some time ago a huge difference in weight between
two 100u bags of the same part, but couldn't find it to reply now.
 
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 06:31
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In General, Stellar writes:
  Since some months or a year ago I have been noticing that some parts feel the
same, newer ones have a matte finish (or not shiny?) and weight less.

For example:

 
Part No: 32184  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
* 
32184 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

Left matte weights 0.57g
Right shiny weights 0.64g

So be careful if you weight them to count... the difference could be big.

PD: Someone posted in the forum some time ago a huge difference in weight between
two 100u bags of the same part, but couldn't find it to reply now.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=284690&nID=1255060

But isn't this something that has been happening for years? Or has it become
a bigger issue in the last few months?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 06:39
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In General, Turez writes:
  In General, Stellar writes:
  Since some months or a year ago I have been noticing that some parts feel the
same, newer ones have a matte finish (or not shiny?) and weight less.

For example:

 
Part No: 32184  Name: Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
* 
32184 Technic, Axle and Pin Connector Perpendicular 3L with Center Pin Hole
Parts: Technic, Connector {Black}

Left matte weights 0.57g
Right shiny weights 0.64g

So be careful if you weight them to count... the difference could be big.

PD: Someone posted in the forum some time ago a huge difference in weight between
two 100u bags of the same part, but couldn't find it to reply now.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=284690&nID=1255060

But isn't this something that has been happening for years? Or has it become
a bigger issue in the last few months?

Well, I have been handling huge amounts of parts in since 2015 and I noticed
it more lately.
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 06:46
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This might have to do with the plant-based plastic Lego is starting to use.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 09:11
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In General, firestar246 writes:
  This might have to do with the plant-based plastic Lego is starting to use.

That needs to confirmed. If true, then it could be grounds for a major catalog
revamp, because some buyers are trying to recreate older sets, and they do not
want new plastic parts intermingled. There would need to be some way to distinguish
which is which. Any chemists lurking about ?

Nita Rae
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 9, 2021 09:54
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In General, cosmicray writes:
  In General, firestar246 writes:
  This might have to do with the plant-based plastic Lego is starting to use.

That needs to confirmed. If true, then it could be grounds for a major catalog
revamp, because some buyers are trying to recreate older sets, and they do not
want new plastic parts intermingled. There would need to be some way to distinguish
which is which. Any chemists lurking about ?

Nita Rae

Not a chemist but:

First, to be pedantic, all plastics are plant-based: they come from petrol which
comes from plants.
The “plant-based plastic” is actually “sustainable plastic” (not made from petrol
derivatives but from sugar cane alcohol).

For now (that is, no contradictory announcement was made), the sustainable plastic
LEGO uses is PE (soft parts), not ABS (bricks…).
And there’s no difference between petrol-PE and sugar cane-PE.

So that’s not the fault of the so-called “plant-based plastic.”


That being said, LEGO also continously tunes its plastics.  In more or less
big steps, like using pre-coloured pellets or not or just “tinkerings.”

Lastly, the biggest change has been to go from PC to MABS for transparent parts
(that leads to cloudy parts when it’s not Trans-Clear).

Last year, the chief of LEGO’s Quality Perception dpt said they tried very very
hard to make the appearance & feel constistent.  But he also said one of the
changes made snapping go more “ploom” than “click” (paraphrasing, with my faulty
memory and French accent ).