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 Author: sonnich View Messages Posted By sonnich
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 06:56
 Subject: Customer just wants feedback
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sonnich (325)

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Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
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 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 07:10
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cosmicray (3488)

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In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

In my view, FB was supposed to be incidental to the transaction, not the objective
of the transaction. I am aware of the existence of NFTs (which cause me to SMH).
Is this the beginning an a BrickLink NFT market ?

Nita Rae
 Author: sonnich View Messages Posted By sonnich
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:08
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sonnich (325)

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In Feedback, cosmicray writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

In my view, FB was supposed to be incidental to the transaction, not the objective
of the transaction. I am aware of the existence of NFTs (which cause me to SMH).
Is this the beginning an a BrickLink NFT market ?

Nita Rae

What is NFT?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:28
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In Feedback, sonnich writes:
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What is NFT?

Non-fungible token.

People buy a token (a bit of data) that’s put in a public cryptographic ledger
(blockchain), that token says they are the propietor of a digital thing (image,
video, URL…) that’s supposed¹ to be original and unique.

(¹ It’s digital, anybody that can access it (see…) can keep a copy… but even
if that copy is indistinguishable from the original, it’s not the same, somehow.)

IOW, a new scam / money laundering scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:31
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MrPetovan (925)

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A Non Fungible Token, a form of cryptocurrency that isn't a denomination
of a currency, it represents a unique virtual property that can only be sold
whole. Rae was equating feedback buying to NFT trading, although individual feedbacks
can't be traded between accounts, each BrickLink account is free to issue
as many feedbacks as they want to other accounts.

In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  In Feedback, cosmicray writes:
  In my view, FB was supposed to be incidental to the transaction, not the objective
of the transaction. I am aware of the existence of NFTs (which cause me to SMH).
Is this the beginning an a BrickLink NFT market ?

Nita Rae

What is NFT?
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 07:14
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In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?
 Author: Akir View Messages Posted By Akir
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 04:28
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In Feedback, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

I also suspect it might have to do with that - in that case, I wouldn't do
it, since the rule is there to make it more difficult for scammers to get a seller
account, and to teach prospective sellers how the system works before they start
selling. Both are important points imho.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 07:29
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In Feedback, stearns writes:
  In Feedback, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

I also suspect it might have to do with that - in that case, I wouldn't do
it, since the rule is there to make it more difficult for scammers to get a seller
account, and to teach prospective sellers how the system works before they start
selling. Both are important points imho.

Because if the prospective seller sees nothing wrong with doing this, that might
become part of their business model ... selling feedback to other prospective
sellers.

It breaks the chain of trust.

Nita Rae
 Author: sonnich View Messages Posted By sonnich
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:12
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In Feedback, cosmicray writes:
  In Feedback, stearns writes:
  In Feedback, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

I also suspect it might have to do with that - in that case, I wouldn't do
it, since the rule is there to make it more difficult for scammers to get a seller
account, and to teach prospective sellers how the system works before they start
selling. Both are important points imho.

Because if the prospective seller sees nothing wrong with doing this, that might
become part of their business model ... selling feedback to other prospective
sellers.

It breaks the chain of trust.

Exactly my point. I can do the deal, but it will break truest. I dont know what
he needs it for for I can be skeptic on that one
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:19
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In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  In Feedback, cosmicray writes:
  In Feedback, stearns writes:
  In Feedback, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

I also suspect it might have to do with that - in that case, I wouldn't do
it, since the rule is there to make it more difficult for scammers to get a seller
account, and to teach prospective sellers how the system works before they start
selling. Both are important points imho.

Because if the prospective seller sees nothing wrong with doing this, that might
become part of their business model ... selling feedback to other prospective
sellers.

It breaks the chain of trust.

Exactly my point. I can do the deal, but it will break truest. I dont know what
he needs it for for I can be skeptic on that one

Report the member to Admin to look into it: https://www.bricklink.com/problemMember.asp
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 13:26
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zorbanj (805)

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What choice do you have? If you cancel the order, you are risking neutral/negative
feedback.

The buyer likely was trying to makem your life easier by asking that the piece
not be sent. If instead the buyer stayed silent and you mailed the order he would
get positive feedback anyway.

You can always mail the order as you would with any other order.

Not sure why at least 1 positive feedback is still even required with the much
more stringent new seller verification requirements.


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  I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

I also suspect it might have to do with that - in that case, I wouldn't do
it, since the rule is there to make it more difficult for scammers to get a seller
account, and to teach prospective sellers how the system works before they start
selling. Both are important points imho.

Because if the prospective seller sees nothing wrong with doing this, that might
become part of their business model ... selling feedback to other prospective
sellers.

It breaks the chain of trust.

Exactly my point. I can do the deal, but it will break truest. I dont know what
he needs it for for I can be skeptic on that one
 Author: sonnich View Messages Posted By sonnich
 Posted: Jun 8, 2021 08:09
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sonnich (325)

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In Feedback, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich

To have at least 1 feedback is a New Seller Verification requirement.
Is it a 0 feedback buyer?

Yes, new user - I cannot call this a buyer yet
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 07:55
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I think you should carry on with the order as usual, feedback is meant to publicly
comment on people’s behavior, so if they behave as a normal buyer would for this
order beyond the unusual side request, they will have rightfully earned their
feedback.

In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 14:41
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I don't think this is in the spirit of BL or the rules. FB may reinforce
the act of transacting on BL, but it is not the purpose.

Also, FB is really meant to be a reflection of the transaction as a whole.

In Feedback, sonnich writes:
  Hi all

I got an interesting order, a customer who only wants feedback, not that actually
1 cent part that he ordered.

I can just send an invoice of 1 USD/EUR and get the money and post feedback.

But what do people think about this behavior?

WBR
Sonnich