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| | | Author: | Bricklanta  | | Posted: | May 8, 2021 14:38 | | Subject: | Redundant Counterpart in set 10740-1? | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I noticed in set 10740-1 (Fire Patrol Suitcase) that two of the three counterparts
are redundant. In the regular set inventory are parts for a motorcycle sub assembly.
That subassembly (52035c03) is listed as a counterpart for 6 regular parts -
1x Red fairing, 1x Black chassis, 2x Black tires 50861, and 2x Red wheels 50862.
However two wheel & tire subassemblies are *also* listed as counterparts - 2x
50862c01, which comprises the same two tires and the same two wheels as the motorcycle
subassembly.
I feel this is redundant and causes confusion - a single individual regular piece
has two counterparts. Since counterparts are barred from having MatchIDs, this
is really confusing and trying to do something like finding out if i have all
the parts of a set is complicated.
I don't know if there are any guidelines on counterparts - but it's clear
to me that putting sub-sub-assemblies in the inventory isn't standard, otherwise
we'd see torso assemblies in counterparts to minifigures.
Can we at least have a guideline that a single regular part should only have
1 counterpart listed in the inventory? Or move the wheel&tire to be a counterpart
inside the motorcycle assembly?
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 8, 2021 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Redundant Counterpart in set 10740-1? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bricklanta writes:
| | I noticed in set 10740-1 (Fire Patrol Suitcase) that two of the three counterparts
are redundant. In the regular set inventory are parts for a motorcycle sub assembly.
That subassembly (52035c03) is listed as a counterpart for 6 regular parts -
1x Red fairing, 1x Black chassis, 2x Black tires 50861, and 2x Red wheels 50862.
However two wheel & tire subassemblies are *also* listed as counterparts - 2x
50862c01, which comprises the same two tires and the same two wheels as the motorcycle
subassembly.
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Wheel and tire assemblies are always listed as counterparts in an inventory separate
from any larger counterpart assemblies that may contain them. This is standard
catalog practice.
| | I feel this is redundant and causes confusion - a single individual regular piece
has two counterparts. Since counterparts are barred from having MatchIDs, this
is really confusing and trying to do something like finding out if i have all
the parts of a set is complicated.
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You only need look at the Regular Items section to see if you have all the parts
of a set.
| | I don't know if there are any guidelines on counterparts - but it's clear
to me that putting sub-sub-assemblies in the inventory isn't standard, otherwise
we'd see torso assemblies in counterparts to minifigures.
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As mentioned above, it is standard. Torso assemblies are not included in counterparts
because torso assemblies come assembled in a set and are only listed in the Regular
Items section.
| | Can we at least have a guideline that a single regular part should only have
1 counterpart listed in the inventory? Or move the wheel&tire to be a counterpart
inside the motorcycle assembly?
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I am sorry, but no.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Bricklanta | | Posted: | May 8, 2021 16:23 | | Subject: | Re: Redundant Counterpart in set 10740-1? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | You only need look at the Regular Items section to see if you have all the parts
of a set.
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I'm sure that's a really simple exercise for you, but when some of my
parts are counterparts and some of my parts are regular parts and some of my
parts are alternates, there's probably a step I'm missing when I just
look at it.
And when I'm aggregating all of my sets to see what I have and what parts
I still need to add to a wishlist, it's even more muddled. Perhaps you can
share a little more detail of the steps to take to make sure I have all the
parts of a set?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 8, 2021 18:20 | | Subject: | Re: Redundant Counterpart in set 10740-1? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Bricklanta writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | You only need look at the Regular Items section to see if you have all the parts
of a set.
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I'm sure that's a really simple exercise for you, but when some of my
parts are counterparts and some of my parts are regular parts and some of my
parts are alternates, there's probably a step I'm missing when I just
look at it.
And when I'm aggregating all of my sets to see what I have and what parts
I still need to add to a wishlist, it's even more muddled. Perhaps you can
share a little more detail of the steps to take to make sure I have all the
parts of a set?
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The first step on an inventory page, such as
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=4789-1
is to click on the "Break Minifigs" link near the top.
Now you will have a complete list of every part you should have in the set.
If you have an assembled Counterpart, take it apart into its constituent parts
and use those to compare with the parts in the Regular Items section.
If you have a stickered part, pretend it does not have a sticker and see if it
is in the Regular Items section.
Easy peasy. 
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