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 Author: jdinklage View Messages Posted By jdinklage
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 14:05
 Subject: Lego/Bricklink-Very frustrated with you
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jdinklage (574)

Location:  USA, Massachusetts
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.
 Author: RecycledBrick View Messages Posted By RecycledBrick
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 14:19
 Subject: Re: Lego/Bricklink-Very frustrated with you
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RecycledBrick (7132)

Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: Recycled Brick
The buyers are paying the tax. Bricklink has to collect the tax due to the South
Dakota v Wayfair ruling. The sellers that you can’t buy from need to enable an
on-site payment option. The updating sellers on this has been the problem. If
a seller doesn’t read the forum they might still not know. This could be added
to one of the future newsletters that Bricklink is starting to send out as a
reminder
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 14:24
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Tracyd (302)

Location:  USA, Texas
Member Since Contact Type Status
May 29, 2003 Contact Member Seller
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Store Closed Store: Tracyd's
In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

So you want them to break the law just for you? It is required for Bricklink
to collect sales tax. The sellers are the ones who haven't updated their
policies not Bricklink. Why don't you message the sellers telling them what
they need to do. Be part of the solution not part of the problem.
 Author: jdinklage View Messages Posted By jdinklage
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 07:55
 Subject: Re: Lego/Bricklink-Very frustrated with you
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jdinklage (574)

Location:  USA, Massachusetts
Member Since Contact Type Status
Nov 19, 2014 Member Does Not Allow Contact Buyer
Buying Privileges - OK
In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

So you want them to break the law just for you? It is required for Bricklink
to collect sales tax. The sellers are the ones who haven't updated their
policies not Bricklink. Why don't you message the sellers telling them what
they need to do. Be part of the solution not part of the problem.

The whole purpose of me bothering to write this in the suggestion forum is exactly
to find a solution to this problem. I am trying to do so.
 Author: RecycledBrick View Messages Posted By RecycledBrick
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 12:34
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RecycledBrick (7132)

Location:  USA, Washington
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Store: Recycled Brick
Contact the store that you want to buy from. Tell them that you can’t checkout
because they don’t have an Onsite payment option available. See if they want
to enable it and if they don’t then move on to another seller. How rare of pieces
are you looking for?
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 16:01
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calebfishn (1707)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
Member Since Contact Type Status
Feb 17, 2009 Contact Member Seller
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Store Closed Store: Barbie's Brick Store
In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.
 Author: SomeRandomUser View Messages Posted By SomeRandomUser
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 17:38
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SomeRandomUser (10) 
(was ZacharyWathen97)

Location:  USA, Kansas
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 24, 2015 Contact Member Buyer
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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I heard the Bahamas are pleasant this time of year.
 Author: Tracyd View Messages Posted By Tracyd
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 18:16
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Tracyd (302)

Location:  USA, Texas
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store Closed Store: Tracyd's
In Suggestions, ZacharyWathen97 writes:
  In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I heard the Bahamas are pleasant this time of year.

Sand + LEGO equals scratches.
 Author: SomeRandomUser View Messages Posted By SomeRandomUser
 Posted: Apr 1, 2021 20:44
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SomeRandomUser (10) 
(was ZacharyWathen97)

Location:  USA, Kansas
Member Since Contact Type Status
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In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
  In Suggestions, ZacharyWathen97 writes:
  In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I heard the Bahamas are pleasant this time of year.

Sand + LEGO equals scratches.

I can't argue with that logic, ha ha.
 Author: jdinklage View Messages Posted By jdinklage
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 08:00
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jdinklage (574)

Location:  USA, Massachusetts
Member Since Contact Type Status
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In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I WANT to pay my taxes. I have no problem with paying my taxes.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 08:08
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Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
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In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I WANT to pay my taxes. I have no problem with paying my taxes.

The problem is that we (BrickLink) cannot pay those taxes unless the seller chooses
to use an onsite payment method. We cannot force sellers to make this choice,
so it is up to these sellers to open themselves up to the larger market.

This is why some other members in this thread are advising you to contact sellers
you wish to buy from and kindly ask if they would adopt an onsite method. It
is not a lengthy process - it takes just a few minutes for those who already
have an account.
 Author: BasKrie View Messages Posted By BasKrie
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 08:37
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BasKrie (5499)

Location:  Netherlands, Drenthe
Member Since Contact Type Status
Dec 5, 2014 Contact Member Seller
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Store: BasKrie
In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I WANT to pay my taxes. I have no problem with paying my taxes.

The problem is that we (BrickLink) cannot pay those taxes unless the seller chooses
to use an onsite payment method. We cannot force sellers to make this choice,
so it is up to these sellers to open themselves up to the larger market.

This is why some other members in this thread are advising you to contact sellers
you wish to buy from and kindly ask if they would adopt an onsite method. It
is not a lengthy process - it takes just a few minutes for those who already
have an account.

What Bricklink could do is inform all sellers that since mid last year they need
an onsite payment option to sell to (almost all) US buyers.
And inform them that in case of an error when trying to send an invoice they
have to check there template.
The Brexit mail was good although nothing was really said in it, but for the
US tax changes nothing has been communicated, while given all kinds of forum
posts a lot of sellers don't know about it.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 10:47
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Location:  USA, Illinois
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Suggestions, BasKrie writes:
  
  
The problem is that we (BrickLink) cannot pay those taxes unless the seller chooses
to use an onsite payment method. We cannot force sellers to make this choice,
so it is up to these sellers to open themselves up to the larger market.

This is why some other members in this thread are advising you to contact sellers
you wish to buy from and kindly ask if they would adopt an onsite method. It
is not a lengthy process - it takes just a few minutes for those who already
have an account.

What Bricklink could do is inform all sellers that since mid last year they need
an onsite payment option to sell to (almost all) US buyers.
And inform them that in case of an error when trying to send an invoice they
have to check there template.
The Brexit mail was good although nothing was really said in it, but for the
US tax changes nothing has been communicated, while given all kinds of forum
posts a lot of sellers don't know about it.

Yes, I think there is overwhelming evidence that many sellers did not receive
the message from BrickLink regarding how the sales tax deployment directly affected
their stores. Despite all the problems and like 900 Forum posts about it, BrickLink
prefers to do nothing to solve this problem. The broken template thing was also
a bug they never addressed. Typical.

Jen
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Location:  USA, California
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store: Brickman4you
In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  In Suggestions, calebfishn writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

If you don't want to pay your sales taxes to the great state of Massachusetts
then I suggest you use your democratic rights to elect legislators who will change
the law.
Or, you could move to a different jurisdiction that doesn't charge sales
tax.

I WANT to pay my taxes. I have no problem with paying my taxes.

The problem is that we (BrickLink) cannot pay those taxes unless the seller chooses
to use an onsite payment method. We cannot force sellers to make this choice,
so it is up to these sellers to open themselves up to the larger market.

This is why some other members in this thread are advising you to contact sellers
you wish to buy from and kindly ask if they would adopt an onsite method. It
is not a lengthy process - it takes just a few minutes for those who already
have an account.

Would be nice if Excluding "Stores that do not ship to me" would block them from
showing up in searches.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 2, 2021 11:19
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SylvainLS (36)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Member Since Contact Type Status
Apr 25, 2014 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
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In Suggestions, Brickman4you writes:
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Would be nice if Excluding "Stores that do not ship to me" would block them from
showing up in searches.

Ah, but these stores do ship to you… you just can’t pay them

(IOW: the message the buyer gets is very wrong and confusing.)
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
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jennnifer (2833)

Location:  USA, Illinois
Member Since Contact Type Status
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

You are blaming the wrong people for the wrong things. Blame BrickLink for not
doing more to educate their sellers about the recent changes to the site that
directly affected their stores. Sellers received only one communication about
the tax update, and the relevant information was buried in it.

All you need to do is contact any sellers from whom you can't order, inform
them that they need to enable an onsite payment method, and direct them to the
Forum if they have any questions. You will be doing them, yourself, and lots
of fellow BrickLinkers a great service.

Also, many sellers have conflated onsite payments with Instant Checkout and have
resisted changing their stores for this reason. Instant Checkout is confusing
to implement and imperfect, so try to be understanding. Here is a handy chart
you can use if anyone needs convincing.

Good luck,
Jen
 
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Location:  Netherlands, Overijssel
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

You are blaming the wrong people for the wrong things. Blame BrickLink for not
doing more to educate their sellers about the recent changes to the site that
directly affected their stores. Sellers received only one communication about
the tax update, and the relevant information was buried in it.

All you need to do is contact any sellers from whom you can't order, inform
them that they need to enable an onsite payment method, and direct them to the
Forum if they have any questions. You will be doing them, yourself, and lots
of fellow BrickLinkers a great service.

Also, many sellers have conflated onsite payments with Instant Checkout and have
resisted changing their stores for this reason. Instant Checkout is confusing
to implement and imperfect, so try to be understanding. Here is a handy chart
you can use if anyone needs convincing.

Good luck,
Jen

Really? Buyers instructing Sellers how to do their job??? The world upside down.
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Location:  USA, Michigan
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Jen, I just got approved to sell, but have not opened yet. Where can I go to
look at this info in the forums? I am not familiar with what is being talked
about here.

I only plan to sell in US and only plan to accept paypal.

Thanks,
Michael

In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

You are blaming the wrong people for the wrong things. Blame BrickLink for not
doing more to educate their sellers about the recent changes to the site that
directly affected their stores. Sellers received only one communication about
the tax update, and the relevant information was buried in it.

All you need to do is contact any sellers from whom you can't order, inform
them that they need to enable an onsite payment method, and direct them to the
Forum if they have any questions. You will be doing them, yourself, and lots
of fellow BrickLinkers a great service.

Also, many sellers have conflated onsite payments with Instant Checkout and have
resisted changing their stores for this reason. Instant Checkout is confusing
to implement and imperfect, so try to be understanding. Here is a handy chart
you can use if anyone needs convincing.

Good luck,
Jen
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Suggestions, roguemjr writes:
  Jen, I just got approved to sell, but have not opened yet. Where can I go to
look at this info in the forums? I am not familiar with what is being talked
about here.

I only plan to sell in US and only plan to accept paypal.

Thanks,
Michael


Well, you will be fine as long as you offer an onsite payment method. Paypal
can be used onsite and offsite. I don't believe that you can offer offsite
methods as a new seller anyway.

If you search 'sales tax' here in the Forum, you'll get more info
than you would ever want.

Here is the Help section:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2467&q=sales+tax

Good luck with your new shop!
Jen
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Location:  USA, New Jersey
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  Well, you will be fine as long as you offer an onsite payment method. Paypal
can be used onsite and offsite. I don't believe that you can offer offsite
methods as a new seller anyway.

That's correct - I think 2017 was the cutoff from what I've read here
in the forums.

I switched to a seller account just last year and never had a choice off onsite
vs. offsite - just PayPal, Stripe, or both.
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Location:  USA, Florida
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.

You are blaming the wrong people for the wrong things. Blame BrickLink for not
doing more to educate their sellers about the recent changes to the site that
directly affected their stores. Sellers received only one communication about
the tax update, and the relevant information was buried in it.

All you need to do is contact any sellers from whom you can't order, inform
them that they need to enable an onsite payment method, and direct them to the
Forum if they have any questions. You will be doing them, yourself, and lots
of fellow BrickLinkers a great service.

Also, many sellers have conflated onsite payments with Instant Checkout and have
resisted changing their stores for this reason. Instant Checkout is confusing
to implement and imperfect, so try to be understanding. Here is a handy chart
you can use if anyone needs convincing.

Good luck,
Jen

The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

It is possible in theory to incorporate IBAN into an onsite solution, but apparently
it is very difficult and potentially unstable. So we consider IBAN to be offsite
only.
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Teup (4989)

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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

It is possible in theory to incorporate IBAN into an onsite solution, but apparently
it is very difficult and potentially unstable. So we consider IBAN to be offsite
only.

Difficult and potentially unstable? How so? BrickOwl doesn't seem to have
that problem, and neither do I in my own website. It works perfectly, just use
Stripe. I managed to get it to work in my webshop in no time at all.
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

It is possible in theory to incorporate IBAN into an onsite solution, but apparently
it is very difficult and potentially unstable. So we consider IBAN to be offsite
only.

Difficult and potentially unstable? How so? BrickOwl doesn't seem to have
that problem, and neither do I in my own website. It works perfectly, just use
Stripe. I managed to get it to work in my webshop in no time at all.

Same here, I haven't had problems on BrickOwl with any of the Stripe integrations
for local or regional instant bank payments.
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  Difficult and potentially unstable? How so? BrickOwl doesn't seem to have
that problem, and neither do I in my own website. It works perfectly, just use
Stripe. I managed to get it to work in my webshop in no time at all.

Same here, I haven't had problems on BrickOwl with any of the Stripe integrations
for local or regional instant bank payments.

Oh right, Stripe does do debit/bank as well. Works fantastic on BrickOwl for
myself as well. I still get folks that like to do the Interac E-transfer method
(for Canada), so I'm not sure if they specifically support *all* debit features
natively but most.
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

It is possible in theory to incorporate IBAN into an onsite solution, but apparently
it is very difficult and potentially unstable. So we consider IBAN to be offsite
only.

Just food for thought (although not even sure I like this solution, haven't
read into it much), but in Canada the primary "debit" method that folks use is
Interac E-transfer. There are some solutions like PremierPay (with a transaction
fee of course), and can be setup with API etc. I'm assuming IBAN likely has
some other paid solutions that assist in facilitating the transaction, but again,
probably less popular due to the fees associated (even if less than PayPal).
From a buyer's perspective, it's potentially a bit easier though. And
it could probably allow BrickLink to facilitate tax collection as well.
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In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

It is possible in theory to incorporate IBAN into an onsite solution, but apparently
it is very difficult and potentially unstable. So we consider IBAN to be offsite
only.

Just food for thought (although not even sure I like this solution, haven't
read into it much), but in Canada the primary "debit" method that folks use is
Interac E-transfer. There are some solutions like PremierPay (with a transaction
fee of course), and can be setup with API etc. I'm assuming IBAN likely has
some other paid solutions that assist in facilitating the transaction, but again,
probably less popular due to the fees associated (even if less than PayPal).
From a buyer's perspective, it's potentially a bit easier though. And
it could probably allow BrickLink to facilitate tax collection as well.

From what I understand, several countries have their own preferred interfaces
for IBAN transactions. Outside Bricklink my Dutch customers pay by iDEAL and
my Belgian customers sometimes by Bancontact. As far as I know they're similar.
The cool thing about Stripe is that you can just accept these payments without
even knowing what they are, so adding these methods would be great for most on
Bricklink worldwide - the only exception being sellers outside the EU who only
sell domestically. (and of course it's great for the buyers in the countries
where these payment solutions are used)

The Dutch one is very popular here in spite of the fee. The fee is only €0.29
regardless of the amount, and even if a store/organisation/restaurant/etc would
offer both options, I'm assuming people just go for the onsite solution,
even if the seller passes on the fees to the buyer. That's what I do anyway.

It seems to me that offsite bank transfers are becoming less usual in daily life
here, with the main second hand trading site now also offering onsite payment.
It's going to be a matter of time before Bricklink (and Lego.com!) are going
to have to follow along.
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Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  […]
  Just food for thought (although not even sure I like this solution, haven't
read into it much), but in Canada the primary "debit" method that folks use is
Interac E-transfer. There are some solutions like PremierPay (with a transaction
fee of course), and can be setup with API etc. I'm assuming IBAN likely has
some other paid solutions that assist in facilitating the transaction, but again,
probably less popular due to the fees associated (even if less than PayPal).
From a buyer's perspective, it's potentially a bit easier though. And
it could probably allow BrickLink to facilitate tax collection as well.

First, “IBAN” is a misnomer, it’s just bank transfers, to be precise, an International
(not only EU) standard for Bank Account Numbers (i…b…a…n…!).  It’s very unfortunate
that BL named this method this way, or, rather, it’s unfortunate it’s the name
under which it was publicized or at least collaquially adopted in some countries
(NL).
Even more unfortunate, this method actually covers many situations of bank transfers
but not all bank transfers: different currencies not only EUR, national or international
transfers but not “only EU” (or even “only Europpe”), and with or without fees
but with no way to know beforehand (depends on both seller’s and buyer’s banks).
I strongly believe BL should not have added this method, “bank transfers” was
sufficient, or should have given it a narrower meaning… and then, maybe, should
have created more than one.


  From what I understand, several countries have their own preferred interfaces
for IBAN transactions. Outside Bricklink my Dutch customers pay by iDEAL and
my Belgian customers sometimes by Bancontact. As far as I know they're similar.
The cool thing about Stripe is that you can just accept these payments without
even knowing what they are, so adding these methods would be great for most on
Bricklink worldwide - the only exception being sellers outside the EU who only
sell domestically. (and of course it's great for the buyers in the countries
where these payment solutions are used)

The Dutch one is very popular here in spite of the fee. The fee is only €0.29
regardless of the amount, and even if a store/organisation/restaurant/etc would
offer both options, I'm assuming people just go for the onsite solution,
even if the seller passes on the fees to the buyer. That's what I do anyway.

It seems to me that offsite bank transfers are becoming less usual in daily life
here, with the main second hand trading site now also offering onsite payment.
It's going to be a matter of time before Bricklink (and Lego.com!) are going
to have to follow along.

In France, it’s mostly cards (with the possibility of chargeback, contrarily
to bank transfers) and I expect it will stay that way.  Though, with the new
SEPA instant payment rules now in place and implemented, maybe the banks will
do something.
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In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:

  
The trick there, is that IC only supports PP and Stripe. You can't do IBAN
with IC and collect the sales tax.

Nita Rae

Is IBAN an onsite payment method?

Jen

IBAN is offsite but it can be used with instant checkout. For offsite payment
methods, instant checkout is just an automatic invoice.
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Sellers (those who have enabled onsite payments) are not paying your taxes at
all, they are simply enabling BrickLink to collect and remit those taxes on their
behalf as required by law for sales in many states.

In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.
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In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.


Just in case it wasn't clear-I have no problem with the taxes. I have a
problem that Bricklink won't allow me to complete a transaction with many
stores at the moment. I do a fair amount of bricklink buying to put it mildly.
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In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  In Suggestions, jdinklage writes:
  Please stop blocking my access to the parts I need. I am extremely annoyed that
you won't allow me to buy items from so many sellers I need to because they
aren't paying my taxes. They "don't support orders that ship to Massachusetts".
You are literally screwing up my access to rare parts that are only available
on this site. You are hurting part of this hobby for me. STOP IT! I am only
a buyer and not a seller. I understand you must be going through some growing
pains trying to get all the sellers to pay taxes, but don't take it out on
the buyers. Seriously stop blocking my access to the parts I need. Not allowing
me to ship items to my home from sellers who are willing to ship them to me is
a legitimate reason for me to be pissed. You are forcing me to go buy clone
parts off site when I don't really want to as an immediate direct result
of this action.


Just in case it wasn't clear-I have no problem with the taxes. I have a
problem that Bricklink won't allow me to complete a transaction with many
stores at the moment. I do a fair amount of bricklink buying to put it mildly.

It is not Bricklink it is the SELLERS you are choosing. Bricklink is following
the law.