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| | | Author: | tons_of_bricks  | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 10:38 | | Subject: | Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 122 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:03 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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Oh, seems all the work was for nothing, a big shame for the Bricklink Catalog,
the strength of the BL Community and its future...
Seems evolving is not seen as good and Management want to get BL stuck in time.
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:47 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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Oh, seems all the work was for nothing, a big shame for the Bricklink Catalog,
the strength of the BL Community and its future...
Seems evolving is not seen as good and Management want to get BL stuck in time.
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I wouldn't go that far. Some changes were approved, so things are moving.
I'm just disappointed as to how all these "changes" got put on the list,
then 24 hours before they go into effect, a bunch get denied.
I'm curious as to Stormchaser's view on this. Most of the edits to that
page were done by Stormchaser, but the last update was by Russell... so it seems
to me Russell is behind the sudden "not approved" items; was Stormchaser in agreement
though?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | I'm curious as to Stormchaser's view on this. Most of the edits to that
page were done by Stormchaser, but the last update was by Russell... so it seems
to me Russell is behind the sudden "not approved" items; was Stormchaser in agreement
though?
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Well, I hope there will be an announcement about what is and what is not being
approved instead of finding out on the forum via a curious BL member. Unfortunately,
we won't hear a thing about all the juicy details involved in BL's office
politics on the forum. Stormchaser's view will be the company's view
if he wants to keep his job. But perhaps our new community engagement officer
can let the community know what's going on.
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:18 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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When Russell posted that very confusing message (to me as well as to the catmins
themselves) saying things may or may not get approved by April 1st, I realised
it'd be a mess... :/ The idea was that the 6 things directly listed in the
newsletter would certainly be approved, and the rest was going to be decided
sometime later on and may or may not make it in the April update.
If I recall right, for some reason Bricklink believes it is better to do little
bits at a time, so the other things will be approved later. Don't really
understand this logic, it just sounds like a recipe for confusion to me. IMO
it's way better to do major updates in one go...
Actually I wish the entire catalog revamp (this project started last year, will
last maybe another year) was just released in one update once it is properly
finished (and announced properly in advance). After so many years of working
with the catalog as it is, what is a few more months working with it? Just my
2 cents.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:28 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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When Russell posted that very confusing message (to me as well as to the catmins
themselves) saying things may or may not get approved by April 1st, I realised
it'd be a mess... :/ The idea was that the 6 things directly listed in the
newsletter would certainly be approved, and the rest was going to be decided
sometime later on and may or may not make it in the April update.
If I recall right, for some reason Bricklink believes it is better to do little
bits at a time, so the other things will be approved later. Don't really
understand this logic, it just sounds like a recipe for confusion to me. IMO
it's way better to do major updates in one go...
Actually I wish the entire catalog revamp (this project started last year, will
last maybe another year) was just released in one update once it is properly
finished (and announced properly in advance). After so many years of working
with the catalog as it is, what is a few more months working with it? Just my
2 cents.
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Maybe they are worried about the spaghetti code becoming so corrupted it would
bring down the site if they changed too much at once? Even when Daniel was alive
and made some changes it would break things and he wrote the original code.
Smaller changes means less to check and figure out if something goes wrong.
Yes it would be nice to have everything changed at once, but if it brought the
whole site down, well that might upset 1 or 2 people. Maybe 3 if it was the
right day.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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I, for one, would like to know how changes brought forward and discussed by the
community, and then reviewed and decided upon by our volunteer admin are somehow
not 'approved' by BrickLink. Is this really what happened?
If BrickLink is, in fact, taking such specific control of the catalog away from
the volunteers, then we need to know about it. BrickLink has only 1 contributor
and no sellers on its entire staff. I don't trust them at all.
Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 12:59 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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Everything on that page is tentative at this point. But I can confirm that all
the ones that currently are marked APPROVED will approved April 1. The other
ones are still under review.
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If that is the case, could you change it to say "UNDER REVIEW" rather than "NOT
APPROVED" then? There is a big divide between those two sets of words.
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| | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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Everything on that page is tentative at this point. But I can confirm that all
the ones that currently are marked APPROVED will approved April 1. The other
ones are still under review.
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Dear Russell,
Thanks for this info. But can you elaborate on this review process? Who is doing
the review, why, and what kind of criteria are taken into consideration?
I think this kind of information would really help us understand and hence be
more understanding about the delays or the way things are done.
Best regards,
Hans-Peter
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| | | | | | | Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Mar 30, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Why so few changes approved? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, firestar246 writes:
| | Since it was only a couple days before April 1st, we decided to start organizing
the pieces by the new changes that were going to be done April 1st. https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
Now today, I notice that a ton of them say not approved, including many that
made sense. So is there a reason?
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Everything on that page is tentative at this point. But I can confirm that all
the ones that currently are marked APPROVED will approved April 1. The other
ones are still under review.
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Thank you for the reply, Russell. Who does the reviewing? Would it be possible
to put a small paragraph or two briefly describing the review process on that
page so we can be a little more informed as to what exactly happens?
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