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| | | Author: | Thargor  | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 04:44 | | Subject: | Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 05:52 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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It does, but why is it not a new number? It is a different figure as it has different
parts. There are other figures that are similar but different and appear in different
sets and have different numbers. Such as
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 06:00 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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It does, but why is it not a new number? It is a different figure as it has different
parts. There are other figures that are similar but different and appear in different
sets and have different numbers. Such as
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I totally agree with you
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1190568 (and whole thread)
but as I see admins have different opinion about that.
I also think it should be new number.
...but I give it up and I don't care any more 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 06:11 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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It does, but why is it not a new number? It is a different figure as it has different
parts. There are other figures that are similar but different and appear in different
sets and have different numbers. Such as
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I totally agree with you
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1190568 (and whole thread)
but as I see admins have different opinion about that.
I also think it should be new number.
...but I give it up and I don't care any more
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I don't mind either way, but just want consistency. Especially as these feed
into other sites that use minifigure definitions based on BL.
And nice to see you again! I hope you are getting more time for bug hunting or
whatever it is you do outside.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 06:51 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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It does, but why is it not a new number? It is a different figure as it has different
parts. There are other figures that are similar but different and appear in different
sets and have different numbers. Such as
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I totally agree with you
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1190568 (and whole thread)
but as I see admins have different opinion about that.
I also think it should be new number.
...but I give it up and I don't care any more
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Oh thats a shame to hear.... having glanced over your previous post I think I
pretty much agree with your proposal as I've just posted similar in this
thread though you may think some of my examples go a step too far with just relying
on different print decal but that is as least how I truly see minifigs being
unique enough to warrant their own ID
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 06:38 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Maybe the new one comes with the 4+ X-wing
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It does, but why is it not a new number? It is a different figure as it has different
parts. There are other figures that are similar but different and appear in different
sets and have different numbers. Such as
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If anything those Yoda’s are actually more similar to each other than the Poe
and so if we’re adding the letter ‘a’ to the end for similar items then we should
probably start with renaming them as sw0471 and sw0471a if we insist on keeping
the one with the bracket in the catalog?
Likewise the same for minifigs like these (jwo23 and jwo23a for backpack)
I would even extend further by saying maybe minifigures should only warrant a
new/unique reference where the minifig specifically has unique print decal be
that on the head, torso ,legs etc… the point being that adding a backpack, changing
the colour legs or style of hair is essentially just accessorising that same
minifigure differently thereby these Han’s would become sw0612, sw0612a, sw0612b
And even these Zane’s although they may look very different they are still essentially
the same minifig with the same print decal on the head and torso and just accessorised
differently and so may benefit from njo106 and njo106a:-
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 05:44 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Presumably someone got the right catalogue administrator on the right day and
they approved it, whereas other times similar submissions were not approved.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 09:58 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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I have submitted a change request.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 10:04 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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I have submitted a change request.
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Figure originally was submitted and approved to the catalog under new unique
number then it was changed ehwn it was in the catalog
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?itemID=199822
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| | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Mar 24, 2021 10:56 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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Because of this mess:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168
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| | | | | Author: | grimsbricksuk | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2021 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| It’s my opinion that this new version of Poe should be sw1144, as it’s not a
variant of sw0737 (although they’re the same). A variant with ‘a’ on the end
suggests it could come from the same set, which this does not.
I tried submitting a change request to sw1144 but that was pending for the upcoming
Blue Milk Luke fig (my submission), which I have now changed to sw1146, making
sw1144 available again for randyf to amend his change request, should he wish.
I noticed the fig was originally added under sw1144 but was then changed, this
is wrong imo.
In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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| | | | | | | Author: | grimsbricksuk | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2021 07:01 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Also, these helmet/hair variants are just crazy....
sw0737 even comes with a helmet in the set, it’s just not shown wearing it on
the instructions.
The new entry should be labelled as without hair.
Same goes for the Jek-14 fig sw0475a, it’s the same fig as sw0475 just without
hair.
The rules need to be reviewed for figs that have either helmet or hair, or indeed
both.
In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | It’s my opinion that this new version of Poe should be sw1144, as it’s not a
variant of sw0737 (although they’re the same). A variant with ‘a’ on the end
suggests it could come from the same set, which this does not.
I tried submitting a change request to sw1144 but that was pending for the upcoming
Blue Milk Luke fig (my submission), which I have now changed to sw1146, making
sw1144 available again for randyf to amend his change request, should he wish.
I noticed the fig was originally added under sw1144 but was then changed, this
is wrong imo.
In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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| | | | | Author: | Redhawk_Kevin | | Posted: | Mar 25, 2021 09:43 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure sw0737a | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The problem is consistency. If Jek-14 and Ezra Bridger are both listed with 'a'
variants due to one having a helmet and the other having hair, then Poe should
also follow suit. This is why the change was requested.
If, as suggested by Graeme above, the letter suffix would only be applied to
variants found within the same set then both of those examples are also invalid.
The first instance of the minifigure assembly within the instructions is a good
standard that clearly allows for a definition of a new minifig variant.
At the same time we are now counting stickered bricks as a minifigure.. this
makes even less sense in my opinion.
Best,
Kevin
In Catalog, Thargor writes:
| | I just saw that Minifigure sw0737a Poe Dameron was added to the catalog. This
Minifigure is included in set 75149 and comes with helmet and hair piece.
In the past we often had Minifigures that had both helmet and hair piece but
they were only listed once in the catalog e.g. sw0416, sw0772, sw0407 ...
Why is Poe now listed twice as sw0737 with hair and as sw0737a with helmet?
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