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 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 24, 2021 12:46
 Subject: Wheel?
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Teup (6586)

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Was searching my train department upside down for this part...

 
Part No: 38339 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
* 		38339 Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
Parts: Wheel

But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 24, 2021 12:53
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Was searching my train department upside down for this part...

[38339]

But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel

Wheels and wheel assemblies are something of a mess, especially for titles.
We've been meaning to get them cleaned up, but . . .

Number 25 on this roadmap:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 24, 2021 12:58
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Was searching my train department upside down for this part...

[P=c]

But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel

 
Part No: 38339 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
* 		38339 Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 38339c01 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
* 		38339c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
Parts: Wheel

The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:

 
Part No: 2878 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder
* 		2878 Train Wheel RC, Holder
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 2878c01 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
* 		2878c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
Parts: Wheel
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Feb 24, 2021 13:13
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:

I think it would be helpful at some point to group parts designed for wheel attachments
together in one place. Perhaps Wheel, Holder or something of that sort.

They're all over the place right now (at least the following eight categories):

 
Part No: 21445 Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
* 		21445 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 2415 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
* 		2415 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
Parts: Aircraft
 
Part No: 2655 Name: Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
* 		2655 Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 2878 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder
* 		2878 Train Wheel RC, Holder
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 3137 Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
* 		3137 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
Parts: Brick, Modified
 
Part No: 2484c01 Name: Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
* 		2484c01 Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
Parts: Vehicle
 
Part No: bb0037 Name: Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
* 		bb0037 Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
Parts: Train
 
Part No: 24326 Name: Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
* 		24326 Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
Parts: Vehicle, Base
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Feb 24, 2021 14:47
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:

I think it would be helpful at some point to group parts designed for wheel attachments
together in one place. Perhaps Wheel, Holder or something of that sort.

They're all over the place right now (at least the following eight categories):

 
Part No: 21445 Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
* 		21445 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 2415 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
* 		2415 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
Parts: Aircraft
 
Part No: 2655 Name: Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
* 		2655 Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 2878 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder
* 		2878 Train Wheel RC, Holder
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 3137 Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
* 		3137 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
Parts: Brick, Modified
 
Part No: 2484c01 Name: Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
* 		2484c01 Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
Parts: Vehicle
 
Part No: bb0037 Name: Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
* 		bb0037 Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
Parts: Train
 
Part No: 24326 Name: Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
* 		24326 Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
Parts: Vehicle, Base

It makes sense to have them all together, most can only be used as wheel holders
only...
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 25, 2021 04:53
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Teup (6586)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:

I think it would be helpful at some point to group parts designed for wheel attachments
together in one place. Perhaps Wheel, Holder or something of that sort.

They're all over the place right now (at least the following eight categories):

 
Part No: 21445 Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
* 		21445 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 2415 Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
* 		2415 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 Thin with Plane Single Wheel Holder
Parts: Aircraft
 
Part No: 2655 Name: Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
* 		2655 Plate, Round 2 x 2 Thin with Wheel Holder
Parts: Plate, Round
 
Part No: 2878 Name: Train Wheel RC, Holder
* 		2878 Train Wheel RC, Holder
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 3137 Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
* 		3137 Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder
Parts: Brick, Modified
 
Part No: 2484c01 Name: Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
* 		2484c01 Vehicle, Spring Wheels Holder 2 x 2
Parts: Vehicle
 
Part No: bb0037 Name: Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
* 		bb0037 Train Brick 2 x 4 x 1 1/3 Sliding Block with Wheels Holder
Parts: Train
 
Part No: 24326 Name: Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
* 		24326 Vehicle, Base 3 x 4 x 2/3
Parts: Vehicle, Base

Interesting idea, yeah, I would want to see STRICTLY wheels in "Wheel", and possible
a separate category where wheel holders are all together.

All the examples you gave are almost always intended for use with wheels (there
are very few cases of wheel pins being used for anything else) so I think that
would work.
However, one problem is that it is going to separate plates with wheel pins from
plates with technic pins... that seems awkward, especially since there are plates
with technic pins for which 'wheel holder' is the most obvious application.
Maybe it's one of those cases where there is no perfect solution and we might
as well leave it alone. I don't think it has been causing problems on a regular
basis.

So my vote is on strictly only wheels in Wheel, and wheel holders where they
are now (this particular one back to Train where it always used to be AFAIK).
Unless there's a solution that lets us isolate wheel holders from other parts
in a logical convicing way, which would be great, if only that's possible...