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 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Feb 21, 2021 12:43
 Subject: Mini doll torso shapes
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hpoort (410)

Location:  Netherlands, Groningen
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Sorting through my collection of mini doll torso's, I noticed the variety
of body shapes: I found 4 distinct shapes for boy, girl, man and woman. It seems
LDraw does distinguish these 4 shapes, but Bricklink only distinguishes the two
(?) FTFpb000c00 and FTMpb000c00

Could this be a catalog project to renumber the parts and distinguish the shapes
properly? Should we renumber as FTM, FTW, FTB, FTG (Friends Torso Man/Woman/Boy/Girl)?

Man (LDraw 92242):
 
Part No: FTMpb001c01  Name: Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
* 
FTMpb001c01 Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
Parts: Mini Doll, Torso
shoulder width 10.2 mm, breast thickness 6.6 mm

Woman (LDraw 92243):
[p=FTFpb014c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.9 mm

Boy (LDraw u9210):
[p=FTMpb002c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 5.5 mm

Girl (LDraw 92241):
[p=FTFpb224c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.0 mm
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 21, 2021 13:00
 Subject: Re: Mini doll torso shapes
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randyf (442)

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There is a lot of work that needs to be done in the Friends area. The heads are
different and the numbering doesn't follow BL conventions, some entries combine
parts that are printed versus dual-molded, and now this. Unfortunately, Friends
is an area that does not get much love from contributors and needs a champion
to get things moving.

But, yes, this should be combined with all the other Friends stuff.

Cheers,
Randy


In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Sorting through my collection of mini doll torso's, I noticed the variety
of body shapes: I found 4 distinct shapes for boy, girl, man and woman. It seems
LDraw does distinguish these 4 shapes, but Bricklink only distinguishes the two
(?) FTFpb000c00 and FTMpb000c00

Could this be a catalog project to renumber the parts and distinguish the shapes
properly? Should we renumber as FTM, FTW, FTB, FTG (Friends Torso Man/Woman/Boy/Girl)?

Man (LDraw 92242):
 
Part No: FTMpb001c01  Name: Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
* 
FTMpb001c01 Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
Parts: Mini Doll, Torso
shoulder width 10.2 mm, breast thickness 6.6 mm

Woman (LDraw 92243):
[p=FTFpb014c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.9 mm

Boy (LDraw u9210):
[p=FTMpb002c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 5.5 mm

Girl (LDraw 92241):
[p=FTFpb224c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.0 mm
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Jun 3, 2022 12:04
 Subject: Re: Mini doll torso shapes
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hpoort (410)

Location:  Netherlands, Groningen
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By now this BL-catalog project has been completed, New Elementary just released
an article about the Friends theme, with a paragraph about the Minidoll torsos:
https://www.newelementary.com/2022/05/old-elementary-10-years-of-lego-friends.html


In Catalog, randyf writes:
  There is a lot of work that needs to be done in the Friends area. The heads are
different and the numbering doesn't follow BL conventions, some entries combine
parts that are printed versus dual-molded, and now this. Unfortunately, Friends
is an area that does not get much love from contributors and needs a champion
to get things moving.

But, yes, this should be combined with all the other Friends stuff.

Cheers,
Randy


In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Sorting through my collection of mini doll torso's, I noticed the variety
of body shapes: I found 4 distinct shapes for boy, girl, man and woman. It seems
LDraw does distinguish these 4 shapes, but Bricklink only distinguishes the two
(?) FTFpb000c00 and FTMpb000c00

Could this be a catalog project to renumber the parts and distinguish the shapes
properly? Should we renumber as FTM, FTW, FTB, FTG (Friends Torso Man/Woman/Boy/Girl)?

Man (LDraw 92242):
 
Part No: FTMpb001c01  Name: Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
* 
FTMpb001c01 Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
Parts: Mini Doll, Torso
shoulder width 10.2 mm, breast thickness 6.6 mm

Woman (LDraw 92243):
[p=FTFpb014c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.9 mm

Boy (LDraw u9210):
[p=FTMpb002c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 5.5 mm

Girl (LDraw 92241):
[p=FTFpb224c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.0 mm
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 4, 2021 18:17
 Subject: Re: Mini doll torso shapes
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axaday (7301)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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Do you or someone else have another control for the woman torso? I grabbed
a bunch to measure, but so far I am getting all girls. Maybe that is normal,
but I'd really like to see a 6.9 to reassure myself before I go too far on
it.

In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Sorting through my collection of mini doll torso's, I noticed the variety
of body shapes: I found 4 distinct shapes for boy, girl, man and woman. It seems
LDraw does distinguish these 4 shapes, but Bricklink only distinguishes the two
(?) FTFpb000c00 and FTMpb000c00

Could this be a catalog project to renumber the parts and distinguish the shapes
properly? Should we renumber as FTM, FTW, FTB, FTG (Friends Torso Man/Woman/Boy/Girl)?

Man (LDraw 92242):
 
Part No: FTMpb001c01  Name: Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
* 
FTMpb001c01 Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
Parts: Mini Doll, Torso
shoulder width 10.2 mm, breast thickness 6.6 mm

Woman (LDraw 92243):
[p=FTFpb014c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.9 mm

Boy (LDraw u9210):
[p=FTMpb002c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 5.5 mm

Girl (LDraw 92241):
[p=FTFpb224c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.0 mm
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Mar 4, 2021 18:30
 Subject: Re: Mini doll torso shapes
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axaday (7301)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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I found one. Eclipso.

In Catalog, axaday writes:
  Do you or someone else have another control for the woman torso? I grabbed
a bunch to measure, but so far I am getting all girls. Maybe that is normal,
but I'd really like to see a 6.9 to reassure myself before I go too far on
it.

In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Sorting through my collection of mini doll torso's, I noticed the variety
of body shapes: I found 4 distinct shapes for boy, girl, man and woman. It seems
LDraw does distinguish these 4 shapes, but Bricklink only distinguishes the two
(?) FTFpb000c00 and FTMpb000c00

Could this be a catalog project to renumber the parts and distinguish the shapes
properly? Should we renumber as FTM, FTW, FTB, FTG (Friends Torso Man/Woman/Boy/Girl)?

Man (LDraw 92242):
 
Part No: FTMpb001c01  Name: Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
* 
FTMpb001c01 Torso Mini Doll Man White Shirt Top with Open Collar, Reddish Brown Tie Pattern, Light Nougat Arms with Hands with White Sleeves
Parts: Mini Doll, Torso
shoulder width 10.2 mm, breast thickness 6.6 mm

Woman (LDraw 92243):
[p=FTFpb014c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.9 mm

Boy (LDraw u9210):
[p=FTMpb002c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 5.5 mm

Girl (LDraw 92241):
[p=FTFpb224c01]
shoulder width 8.8 mm, breast thickness 6.0 mm