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| | | Author: | Miro78  | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2021 10:47 | | Subject: | Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| This pertains the difference between Friends accessories flowers and other accessories.
There appear to be 2 classifications in regards to connections. 1) thin pin and
2) bar thickness pin.
The catalogue descriptions don't differentiate them but it affects how they
can be connected. It would be great if the descriptions reflected the difference
as the thin pin accessories can mainly be connected to hair pieces with holes
and and the like, and the bar thickness accessories can be connected to broader
parts with bar holes, including grasping by hands.
Style 1 (thin pin) are these
* | | 18853 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Pointed Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080h Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Serrated Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080g Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Smooth Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080m Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Tiara with 5 Points and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
I think these also
* | | 11618 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Bow with Heart, Long Ribbon, and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
Style 2 (bar thickness with pin hole on the bottom)
Miro
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| | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2021 10:50 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | This pertains the difference between Friends accessories flowers and other accessories.
There appear to be 2 classifications in regards to connections. 1) thin pin and
2) bar thickness pin.
The catalogue descriptions don't differentiate them but it affects how they
can be connected. It would be great if the descriptions reflected the difference
as the thin pin accessories can mainly be connected to hair pieces with holes
and and the like, and the bar thickness accessories can be connected to broader
parts with bar holes, including grasping by hands.
Style 1 (thin pin) are these
* | | 18853 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Pointed Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080h Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Serrated Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080g Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Smooth Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080m Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Tiara with 5 Points and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
I think these also
* | | 11618 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Bow with Heart, Long Ribbon, and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
Style 2 (bar thickness with pin hole on the bottom)
Miro
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Update: Some of the Style 2 items don't have pin holes on the bottom (fish,
seahorse), and I am uncertain on the style 1 under the "I think these also" section
above, which would need to be verified.
Miro
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| | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2021 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | Update: Some of the Style 2 items don't have pin holes on the bottom (fish,
seahorse), and I am uncertain on the style 1 under the "I think these also" section
above, which would need to be verified.
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The bows are definitely under Style 1, not sure about the ribbons. Here is the
back of
* | | 11618 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Bow with Heart, Long Ribbon, and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
(sorry the image is so blurry, had a hard time focusing)
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| | | | | Author: | SteveTheBrick | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2021 17:01 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Here's the the 5 in the 'I think these also' list. All have thin
pins:
Steve
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| | | | | | | Author: | Miro78 | | Posted: | Feb 6, 2021 18:13 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SteveTheBrick writes:
| | Here's the the 5 in the 'I think these also' list. All have thin
pins:
Steve
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Excellent. Thanks Steve and Peregrinator. I'll await to hear back from Catalog
admin to see how they want to handle it.
Miro
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2021 12:23 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I'll await to hear back from Catalog
admin to see how they want to handle it.
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In the absence of written guidelines for item titles, any attempts to standardize
titles is potentially a waste of time.
We are currently struggling in our attempts to adopt written guidelines for the
most important aspects of the catalog and item titles are one of those things
(including how part features such as clips, pins, holes, bars, joints, hinges,
etc. are described and unifying the terminology used). Also sorely needed are
clear, consistent, and easily-comprehensible written guidelines for:
Part assemblies, including figures
Item dimensions
Item numbers
Search terms/keywords
Part variants
Colors and how they're used and inventoried
Our seeming inability to progress in these areas is a result of several different
causes, but we are still trying. The progress is exceptionally slow and we are
no happier about that than everyone else.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2021 17:34 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | I'll await to hear back from Catalog
admin to see how they want to handle it.
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In the absence of written guidelines for item titles, any attempts to standardize
titles is potentially a waste of time.
We are currently struggling in our attempts to adopt written guidelines for the
most important aspects of the catalog and item titles are one of those things
(including how part features such as clips, pins, holes, bars, joints, hinges,
etc. are described and unifying the terminology used). Also sorely needed are
clear, consistent, and easily-comprehensible written guidelines for:
Part assemblies, including figures
Item dimensions
Item numbers
Search terms/keywords
Part variants
Colors and how they're used and inventoried
Our seeming inability to progress in these areas is a result of several different
causes, but we are still trying. The progress is exceptionally slow and we are
no happier about that than everyone else.
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This is really a hard task and it is understandable that it takes time, there
are many many variables in the huge list of Lego parts.
Thanks for your work!
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| | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2021 06:02 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | This pertains the difference between Friends accessories flowers and other accessories.
There appear to be 2 classifications in regards to connections. 1) thin pin and
2) bar thickness pin.
The catalogue descriptions don't differentiate them but it affects how they
can be connected. It would be great if the descriptions reflected the difference
as the thin pin accessories can mainly be connected to hair pieces with holes
and and the like, and the bar thickness accessories can be connected to broader
parts with bar holes, including grasping by hands.
Style 1 (thin pin) are these
* | | 18853 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Pointed Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080h Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Serrated Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080g Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Flower with Smooth Petals and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
* | | 93080m Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Tiara with 5 Points and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
I think these also
* | | 11618 Friends Accessories Hair Decoration, Bow with Heart, Long Ribbon, and Small Pin
Parts: Friends |
Style 2 (bar thickness with pin hole on the bottom)
Miro
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I would better suggest Mini Bar as that it is more similar to a Bar but smaller
than a Lego Pin and mostly it works with minifigs. Or Thin Bar... But Mini/Thin
Pin is ok too as it is what most people are used to.
And the style 2 ones, if they are the same size as Bars, then they have to be
named Bar and Bar with Hole etc.
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| | | | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2021 06:56 | | Subject: | Re: Friends accessories pin vs bar classification | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
| | This pertains the difference between Friends accessories flowers and other accessories.
There appear to be 2 classifications in regards to connections. 1) thin pin and
2) bar thickness pin.
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I would better suggest Mini Bar as that it is more similar to a Bar but smaller
than a Lego Pin and mostly it works with minifigs. Or Thin Bar... But Mini/Thin
Pin is ok too as it is what most people are used to.
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Studio's PartDesigner calls them 'Accessory Pin', see image.
| | And the style 2 ones, if they are the same size as Bars, then they have to be
named Bar and Bar with Hole etc.
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Style 2 ones are the same size as bars. They fit any of flower stems, accessory
pins, axle holes, pin holes and clips. 'Accessory Antipins' could also
be an appropriate name in line of the antistuds at the bottom of plates.
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