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 Author: ProneToDrift View Messages Posted By ProneToDrift
 Posted: Dec 4, 2020 00:16
 Subject: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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ProneToDrift (90)

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I have noticed that a lot of listings for Kraata either do not have their
own photos or do not list the tail colors.

The page linked below has a great set of thumbnails with all known color
variations and stages of kraata. Would it be possible to add a drop down menu
or a select option so that when shops post Kraata they must choose the image
that most closely matches their piece?

That would eliminate the human error factor when posting Kraata and allow
people to more accurately choose what they want to buy based on coloration.

WebPage with Image Thumbnails:
https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kraata_Variations
 Author: LearnedBrick View Messages Posted By LearnedBrick
 Posted: Dec 4, 2020 10:21
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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LearnedBrick (7425)

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While the implementation of this idea on the site is almost doomed to be ignored,
I truly appreciate the link to a comprehensive list of Kraata color combinations.
This will help me to more accurately list what I have in stock.

Question: How many buyers/collectors use the "lore name" of the kraata, such
as "I have a Stage 1 Fear, a Stage 2 Poison, etc."? I'm trying to decide
whether including this my notes for each listing would help.


In Suggestions, ProneToDrift writes:
  I have noticed that a lot of listings for Kraata either do not have their
own photos or do not list the tail colors.

The page linked below has a great set of thumbnails with all known color
variations and stages of kraata. Would it be possible to add a drop down menu
or a select option so that when shops post Kraata they must choose the image
that most closely matches their piece?

That would eliminate the human error factor when posting Kraata and allow
people to more accurately choose what they want to buy based on coloration.

WebPage with Image Thumbnails:
https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kraata_Variations
 Author: ProneToDrift View Messages Posted By ProneToDrift
 Posted: Dec 4, 2020 10:45
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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ProneToDrift (90)

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Personally, this would very much help me when making decisions on what Kraata
I want to purchase!

In Suggestions, LearnedBrick writes:
  While the implementation of this idea on the site is almost doomed to be ignored,
I truly appreciate the link to a comprehensive list of Kraata color combinations.
This will help me to more accurately list what I have in stock.

Question: How many buyers/collectors use the "lore name" of the kraata, such
as "I have a Stage 1 Fear, a Stage 2 Poison, etc."? I'm trying to decide
whether including this my notes for each listing would help.


In Suggestions, ProneToDrift writes:
  I have noticed that a lot of listings for Kraata either do not have their
own photos or do not list the tail colors.

The page linked below has a great set of thumbnails with all known color
variations and stages of kraata. Would it be possible to add a drop down menu
or a select option so that when shops post Kraata they must choose the image
that most closely matches their piece?

That would eliminate the human error factor when posting Kraata and allow
people to more accurately choose what they want to buy based on coloration.

WebPage with Image Thumbnails:
https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kraata_Variations
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Dec 4, 2020 10:55
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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  In Suggestions, LearnedBrick writes:
I truly appreciate the link to a comprehensive list of Kraata color combinations.
This will help me to more accurately list what I have in stock.

+1, agree 100%.

I've got a small pile of these planned for an upload and this link will be
spectacular!
 Author: ProneToDrift View Messages Posted By ProneToDrift
 Posted: Dec 4, 2020 19:21
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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ProneToDrift (90)

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Oh, excellent! I'll be sure to take a look when you post them, I'm definitely
looking to expand my collection!

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  In Suggestions, LearnedBrick writes:
I truly appreciate the link to a comprehensive list of Kraata color combinations.
This will help me to more accurately list what I have in stock.

+1, agree 100%.

I've got a small pile of these planned for an upload and this link will be
spectacular!
 Author: createat8 View Messages Posted By createat8
 Posted: Jan 8, 2021 02:59
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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In Suggestions, ProneToDrift writes:
  I have noticed that a lot of listings for Kraata either do not have their
own photos or do not list the tail colors.

The page linked below has a great set of thumbnails with all known color
variations and stages of kraata. Would it be possible to add a drop down menu
or a select option so that when shops post Kraata they must choose the image
that most closely matches their piece?

That would eliminate the human error factor when posting Kraata and allow
people to more accurately choose what they want to buy based on coloration.

WebPage with Image Thumbnails:
https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kraata_Variations

I just got a big bag of Kraata's yesterday, with lots of color variations.
I've been listing these in the past as best as I could with the correct color
and tail description. But it is not perfect, I agree. For example, a lot of listings
for the "Pearl very light gray" kraata are listed as "white", "pearl white" "Pearl
light gray" of "Very light gray". So sellers find it already hard to list them
with the correct color. The tail color itself is a whole different story.

I like your idea as well, but I do think that Bricklink tries to minimize any
"special" features intended for specific parts, and rather tries to come up with
a generic solution.

Looking at the 6 Rahkshi sets, I think these all came with the same color+tail
color variation. So a Guurahk would have always included a metal blue kraata
with a medium blue tail. So in an ideal world, the bricklink entry for that set
would include that specific kraata. That would require a Kraata bricklink part
as " kraata with medium blue tail" (with "metal blue" as ).

But as there are a lot of different combinations, as can be seen in your (rather
excellent) link, that would mean a lot of differen new kraata entries. And that
could in turn cause new problems with the added complexity.
 Author: gtg128b View Messages Posted By gtg128b
 Posted: Mar 11, 2021 13:55
 Subject: Re: Kraata Colors - More Specific
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In Suggestions, wozke writes:
  In Suggestions, ProneToDrift writes:
  I have noticed that a lot of listings for Kraata either do not have their
own photos or do not list the tail colors.

The page linked below has a great set of thumbnails with all known color
variations and stages of kraata. Would it be possible to add a drop down menu
or a select option so that when shops post Kraata they must choose the image
that most closely matches their piece?

That would eliminate the human error factor when posting Kraata and allow
people to more accurately choose what they want to buy based on coloration.

WebPage with Image Thumbnails:
https://biosector01.com/wiki/Kraata_Variations

I just got a big bag of Kraata's yesterday, with lots of color variations.
I've been listing these in the past as best as I could with the correct color
and tail description. But it is not perfect, I agree. For example, a lot of listings
for the "Pearl very light gray" kraata are listed as "white", "pearl white" "Pearl
light gray" of "Very light gray". So sellers find it already hard to list them
with the correct color. The tail color itself is a whole different story.

I like your idea as well, but I do think that Bricklink tries to minimize any
"special" features intended for specific parts, and rather tries to come up with
a generic solution.

Looking at the 6 Rahkshi sets, I think these all came with the same color+tail
color variation. So a Guurahk would have always included a metal blue kraata
with a medium blue tail. So in an ideal world, the bricklink entry for that set
would include that specific kraata. That would require a Kraata bricklink part
as " kraata with medium blue tail" (with "metal blue" as ).

But as there are a lot of different combinations, as can be seen in your (rather
excellent) link, that would mean a lot of differen new kraata entries. And that
could in turn cause new problems with the added complexity.


We should just have an entry for every combination. It is a finite number (36x6
+ 6x6 rahkshi + 6 shadow + 1 sneaker), just work to add all the catalog entries
and pics.

Putting aside the price guide only goes back 6 months, each kraata/stage has
its own rarity and hence value. Folks listing these with their own interpretation
of the color combinations is only skewing that value--and making it difficult
to set up listing notifications on that one kraata you've been looking for.
It also makes buying them a risk since you aren't really sure what you'll
get unless you spend time with extra communication.

Of course, we could spend all the time adding the variations and sellers could
still do a poor job of listing them.