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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Oct 12, 2020 11:46
 Subject: BAM Plans
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Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.
 Author: Gmid View Messages Posted By Gmid
 Posted: Oct 12, 2020 11:59
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Oct 12, 2020 12:05
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In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.

I don't think the parts should have a category, there are some torsos that
were previously in a minifig elsewhere.

The problem of looking for the catalog entry when you have them is that as they
don't appear in any inventory, when you search starting in the color guide
part, these parts can't be located in any inventory appearing in XXXX color.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Oct 12, 2020 13:11
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, Gmid writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Alright, I'm taking the privilege to go first.

Would it be worth it to have a separate subcategory / tag for these kind of unique
parts? I have added quite a lot myself, and they are insanely hard to find as
seller, and possibly even harder to find as a buyer. It would be nice to just
browser through a BAM section to see those unique minifigure parts as inspiration.

I haven't participated in any category discussion at all, but are there options
to give parts a specific 'tag' to help the search? Most modern databases/archives
don't work with categories/subcategories anymore, but simply with tags assisted
by filtering.

I don't think the parts should have a category, there are some torsos that
were previously in a minifig elsewhere.

The problem of looking for the catalog entry when you have them is that as they
don't appear in any inventory, when you search starting in the color guide
part, these parts can't be located in any inventory appearing in XXXX color.

Yes, I agree categories are not the best tool to solve this. Then we could also
move all collectible minifig parts out of the minifig categories, but I prefer
all headgears to remain headgears whether they're from sets or BAM. It may
be nice to browse those rare parts, but IMO it would be better to browse the
full range of headgears without it being important what exactly was the source.
I think that's kind of the strength of the Bricklink concept in the first
place.
Moreover, if parts originally in BAM would make an appearance in regular sets,
they would need to be moved out of the category, which is not ideal.

I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

As for set appearance, how is "Build-A-Minifig" for a set, just a single set,
with a picture of a BAM station in a Lego store? And its inventory will be all
the (unique) parts that appeared there. I am just thinking out loud, don't
know if this is a good idea or not, it would require continuous set inventory
editing..
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Oct 12, 2020 15:07
 Subject: Re: BAM Plans
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 13, 2020 11:09
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Oct 13, 2020 11:24
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.

True.. from an inventory perspective that would make the most sense. I just thought
it would be a way to serve those who were looking for unique parts, but I guess
they could see that easily enough by navigating to the part entry and looking
at the number of set appearances. And that way they can just stay there without
having to be removed if they are no longer unique because of a new set.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
 Posted: Oct 13, 2020 12:44
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  I do understand the wish to browse the parts together, so I would suggest prefixing
all parts with "Build-A-Minifigure" or something like this, so you can still
search for that term. And then if a part would start becoming regular in sets,
the description can simply be altered (or not).

There already is such a term:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=bam

Problem is that some exclusiv BAM parts are just recolors of existing elements.
Examples:
 
Part No: 12890  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
* 
12890 Minifigure, Hair Female Long Straight
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Orange}
 
Part No: 970c00pb0495  Name: Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
* 
970c00pb0495 Hips and Legs with Dark Brown Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated {Dark Blue}

So sometimes only one of several colors is "BAM exclusiv" and it would be wrong
or misleading to add a prefix to the part entry.

Ah, good point. I guess in that case the option of making BAM a "set" and adding
all unique part/colour combinations in its inventory remains.

Why only unique parts? After all, parts can be found in multiple sets so if there
is one giant BAM set for all parts found in BAM, then it could contain all parts
that have been in BAM not just unique ones.

True.. from an inventory perspective that would make the most sense. I just thought
it would be a way to serve those who were looking for unique parts, but I guess
they could see that easily enough by navigating to the part entry and looking
at the number of set appearances. And that way they can just stay there without
having to be removed if they are no longer unique because of a new set.

I thought we are only talking about the unique BAM parts here because people
are especially interested in them and because they are currently "orphaned" parts,
i.e. it is not visible where they come from.
BAM stations have been there for more than ten years, so we would likely end
up with hundreds of different parts in a gigant "BAM set". This might be interesting
for some archiving purposes, but it would not be helpful for anyone who just
wants to find the latest unique parts. After all, the whole discussion about
BAM parts only started when those unique parts first appeared (about two years
ago). Before that time, BAM stations were just another way of single parts distribution,
similar to Pick a Brick walls or Pick a Brick online.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...

+1
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

+1
I believe your idea is the most intuitive option, easy to implement and does
not need any site programming.

  People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without gess work...

Then let's only add those figures where it is obvious that the parts belong
together.
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

These elements have release dates, minifig parts and accessories for 3 minifigs
are released each quarter.

Here is good info another member shared:

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/175722-bam-exclusive-parts-index/

I would suggest adding sets with an ID something like:

BaM2019Q3
BaM2019Q4
BaM2020Q1
BaM2020Q2
BaM2020Q3

And include all this ~15 parts to the inventory plus maybe

 
Gear No: 852766  Name: Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
* 
852766 Blister Pack, Build a Minifigure (BAM) Pack for 3 Minifigures
Gear: Storage: LEGO Brand Store

People also want the minifigs but I can't think of a way of adding them all
without guess work...

Also, if they are Sets the sellers can sell only 1 of the minifigures marking
the incomplete option, and with a custom photo/description like:

 
Part No: 3001special  Name: Brick 2 x 4 special (special bricks, test bricks and/or prototypes)
* 
3001special Brick 2 x 4 special (special bricks, test bricks and/or prototypes)
Parts: Brick
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

Some parts do make up a single coherent minfig, though, that is a little bit
like a collectible minifig. I do think it'd be a nice thing to somehow keep
track of that in one form or another. There probably will be specific demand
for those. But of course there may be unclarity or disagreement about when this
is the case and when it's really just random parts...
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In Catalog, Teup writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

Some parts do make up a single coherent minfig, though, that is a little bit
like a collectible minifig. I do think it'd be a nice thing to somehow keep
track of that in one form or another. There probably will be specific demand
for those. But of course there may be unclarity or disagreement about when this
is the case and when it's really just random parts...

I think that is the problem. Sometimes they make a coherent figure but other
times there might be guesses to what makes a figure. Plus in normal times they
are not sold as sets, so should they be catalogued as sets or even complete figs.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

Tyson
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In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.

The cases I'm talking about have the full minifigure assembled exactly like
a normal instruction book. eg. Pink valentine's elephant

Tyson.
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In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, leopard37 writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

I'd prefer to see BAM parts only in the catalogue. I know that stores are
assembling figures, and then also putting these into the packaging for now, but
as soon as this stops and stores go back to customers picking the parts it will
seem bizarre to have these listed as sets.

I agree that the whole concept is to build the figure how you want. However there
are lots of unique complete figures that TLG has meant to be assembled together.
I think the suggestions from TLG should be able to be found and sold as a complete
fig. There are a few I want to get my own hands on.

In normal times, we assume that LEGO intend them to be put together in a certain
way. That goes against the BL way of definitely go together rather than presumed
to go together. Plus what happens if for example a torso / head / headgear combo
comes out that could be used with any legs and none are obvious? Do all permutations
get added or none? Especially with human figures, the heads could be controversial.

The cases I'm talking about have the full minifigure assembled exactly like
a normal instruction book. eg. Pink valentine's elephant

Tyson.

I know. In normal times, those parts will not be sold combined. The point of
the BAM is that the customer chooses the parts. There are no instructions.
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Unless the LEGO stores are given instructions on how to assemble the BAM minifigs,
then the parts should be listed as only parts. Having the parts be considered
minifigs would seem to be going in a different direction that the catalog is
going.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Unless the clamshells have individual barcodes or the individual figures have
barcodes I would be more inclined to see them listed as parts only even thou
that will orphan them. Thou I can see exceptions for advertised (by LEGO) for
figures that are preassembled.
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As others have already mentioned, I would prefer BAMF parts listed in the catalog,
but not whole minifigs. They don't have instructions or packaging showing
what an "official" complete BAMF would be, so I think parts only would be best.

David
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Yes!
As an AFOL that no longer has a LEGO store in my area, I would like for BrickLink
stores to be able to list complete BAM minifigures. Thanks!
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Per the catalog roadmap, we're now taking suggestions for what we should
do with BAM sets, parts, and figures. Please provide specific suggestions for
how you'd prefer to see these items handled and the rationale for your preferred
method.

Parts: should be treated as regular parts. Similar to parts in colours-not-used-in-sets
that get no special entry.

Figures: Maybe add the figure as designed by Lego to the catalog as a minifig.
But not all the different variations one can make. (these parts should be added
as parts). Parts description just as regular parts.

Sets: Add the set as designed by Lego to the catalog. Variations should not be
added as set. Parts should be added as regular parts.