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| | | Author: | Rus_Numis  | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 00:21 | | Subject: | Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 136 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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| | | | | | | Author: | Rus_Numis | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 01:21 | | Subject: | Re: Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Thank you for the clarification. It totally makes sense now.
In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rus_Numis writes:
| | When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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It's not as simple as that. We have a sealed set standard on BrickLink, which
means that we base the inventory off what actually is in the set rather than
what is supposed to be in the set. This helps with accuracy with variants and
extras.
Also, BrickLink format varies from that used by the LEGO Group. We create and
name minifigs, we have counterparts, and we also recognize multiple versions
of a set.
We actually use LEGO data as a base to create the rough draft of inventories
which puts us most times at about 95% completion. But there's a lot of work
to do beyond that to prepare inventories for our standard.
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| | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 11:55 | | Subject: | Re: Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rus_Numis writes:
| | When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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It's not as simple as that. We have a sealed set standard on BrickLink, which
means that we base the inventory off what actually is in the set rather than
what is supposed to be in the set. This helps with accuracy with variants and
extras.
Also, BrickLink format varies from that used by the LEGO Group. We create and
name minifigs, we have counterparts, and we also recognize multiple versions
of a set.
We actually use LEGO data as a base to create the rough draft of inventories
which puts us most times at about 95% completion. But there's a lot of work
to do beyond that to prepare inventories for our standard.
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Years ago I tried to get the set numbers and the inventories for the Samsonite
sets. I got no help from Lego. The people I spoke to were unaware of the fact
that Lego was even sold by Lego. I talked to several people that were pretty
high in the food chain. Then I went to Samsonite and no one there had any idea
and they surprised to find out that Samsonite made or sold Lego. I had to send
pictures of the Samsonite sets.
There was also a problem with the early Lego sets that when the were out of a
part the put parts in that they had,sets in the 800 range where almost impossible
to inventory. If they changed parts they used up all the old one first to make
a set.
I even went as far as to call Lego in Billund and they were also surprised at
first that Lego was sold by Samsonite. I person there said that she sort of
remembered that.
I tell this so people know that Lego is as confused as the ones of us that inventory
sets.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rus_Numis writes:
| | When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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It's not as simple as that. We have a sealed set standard on BrickLink, which
means that we base the inventory off what actually is in the set rather than
what is supposed to be in the set. This helps with accuracy with variants and
extras.
Also, BrickLink format varies from that used by the LEGO Group. We create and
name minifigs, we have counterparts, and we also recognize multiple versions
of a set.
We actually use LEGO data as a base to create the rough draft of inventories
which puts us most times at about 95% completion. But there's a lot of work
to do beyond that to prepare inventories for our standard.
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Years ago I tried to get the set numbers and the inventories for the Samsonite
sets. I got no help from Lego. The people I spoke to were unaware of the fact
that Lego was even sold by Lego. I talked to several people that were pretty
high in the food chain. Then I went to Samsonite and no one there had any idea
and they surprised to find out that Samsonite made or sold Lego. I had to send
pictures of the Samsonite sets.
There was also a problem with the early Lego sets that when the were out of a
part the put parts in that they had,sets in the 800 range where almost impossible
to inventory. If they changed parts they used up all the old one first to make
a set.
I even went as far as to call Lego in Billund and they were also surprised at
first that Lego was sold by Samsonite. I person there said that she sort of
remembered that.
I tell this so people know that Lego is as confused as the ones of us that inventory
sets.
John P
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Doesn't surprise me - sometime Lego doesn't know their arse from their
elbow. The left hand really doesn't know what the right hand is doing most
of the time, from my experience of dealing with them directly.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 00:47 | | Subject: | Re: Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Rus_Numis writes:
| | When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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One simple reason: The data from LEGO is not accurate.
BrickLink sellers require accurate inventories, and the work that is done by
BrickLink contributors to detail what comes in actual packaged sets is often
not the same as what LEGO thinks they put into those sets. Not to mention that
the BrickLink inventories contain lots of information that LEGO does not provide
at all. Extra parts and complete minifigures are two of those that many sellers
absolutely require to have on hand to use once an inventory is available.
Another reason that the inventories cannot be instantly available is due to the
fact that all of the new parts for sets must be added to the BrickLink catalog
first before the inventories can even know about them.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | Rus_Numis | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2020 01:20 | | Subject: | Re: Why doesn't TLG provide set inventory? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| Thanks. Now it is clear.
In Suggestions, randyf writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rus_Numis writes:
| | When TLG bought Bricklink my first thought was that finally now we will have
set parts inventory coming directly from them and this will stop delays related
to approvals and all such things. But I don't think this is happening. And
I don't really understand why. TLG has all this data because they created
sets and they know exactly what parts set consists of. Why don't they just
give this information to Bricklink inventory admins on the day of set release
(or even before that)? Is it obvious path to improve Bricklink?
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One simple reason: The data from LEGO is not accurate.
BrickLink sellers require accurate inventories, and the work that is done by
BrickLink contributors to detail what comes in actual packaged sets is often
not the same as what LEGO thinks they put into those sets. Not to mention that
the BrickLink inventories contain lots of information that LEGO does not provide
at all. Extra parts and complete minifigures are two of those that many sellers
absolutely require to have on hand to use once an inventory is available.
Another reason that the inventories cannot be instantly available is due to the
fact that all of the new parts for sets must be added to the BrickLink catalog
first before the inventories can even know about them.
Cheers,
Randy
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