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 Author: Emporiosa View Messages Posted By Emporiosa
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 13:25
 Subject: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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Emporiosa (1375)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 5, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Emporiosa
As far as I can see, IC looks to have been setup in 2017 with little to no additional
updates having been made to it. I have e-mailed Help Desk a couple of months
ago with no response, so just posting here in the forum to hopefully gain a bit
more visibility (and perhaps other buyers/sellers from Canada could add onto
this):

-Provincial sales tax; Canadian sellers who must collect provincial sales tax
may not enable IC at all for domestic orders. This is one of the most basic requirements
which is preventing myself (and others) to move fully to IC. This primarily impacts
the higher volume stores.

-Zone-based shipping for Canada Post; as far as I know, only USPS has a built-in
API at the moment. Due to the granularity of Canada Post, this would be of huge
assistance, or at least let us create zones by Province or Postal Codes and we
can manually set up pricing based on that information. Canada is a vast country
and this impacts pricing.

Thank-you for your consideration

-Sarah
Emporiosa
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 15:02
 Subject: Re: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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jennnifer (2326)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  As far as I can see, IC looks to have been setup in 2017 with little to no additional
updates having been made to it. I have e-mailed Help Desk a couple of months
ago with no response, so just posting here in the forum to hopefully gain a bit
more visibility (and perhaps other buyers/sellers from Canada could add onto
this):

-Provincial sales tax; Canadian sellers who must collect provincial sales tax
may not enable IC at all for domestic orders. This is one of the most basic requirements
which is preventing myself (and others) to move fully to IC. This primarily impacts
the higher volume stores.

-Zone-based shipping for Canada Post; as far as I know, only USPS has a built-in
API at the moment. Due to the granularity of Canada Post, this would be of huge
assistance, or at least let us create zones by Province or Postal Codes and we
can manually set up pricing based on that information. Canada is a vast country
and this impacts pricing.

Thank-you for your consideration

-Sarah
Emporiosa

IC did not use the USPS API last time I checked. I think most sellers just decided
on one rate that covered the costs in most zones and left it at that.

Jen
 Author: Emporiosa View Messages Posted By Emporiosa
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 15:04
 Subject: Re: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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Emporiosa (1375)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
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Jan 5, 2018 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Emporiosa
  
IC did not use the USPS API last time I checked. I think most sellers just decided
on one rate that covered the costs in most zones and left it at that.

Jen

Ah ok, I only based it on what I read in the help notes here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2464

So for US sellers, how do get to establish what a zone is? As far as I can tell
for us here, we can't even go by Provinces nor Postal Codes, so there are
no ways for us to create zones within Canada.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 15:08
 Subject: Re: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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jennnifer (2326)

Location:  USA, Illinois
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Sep 8, 2009 Contact Member Seller
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Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  
  
IC did not use the USPS API last time I checked. I think most sellers just decided
on one rate that covered the costs in most zones and left it at that.

Jen

Ah ok, I only based it on what I read in the help notes here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2464

So for US sellers, how do get to establish what a zone is? As far as I can tell
for us here, we can't even go by Provinces nor Postal Codes, so there are
no ways for us to create zones within Canada.

I believe those 'zones' are just ways for the seller to organize international
shipping. My understanding is that there are no zip code based anything in IC.

Jen
 Author: Emporiosa View Messages Posted By Emporiosa
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 15:15
 Subject: Re: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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Emporiosa (1375)

Location:  Canada, Ontario
Member Since Contact Type Status
Jan 5, 2018 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Emporiosa
In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  
  
IC did not use the USPS API last time I checked. I think most sellers just decided
on one rate that covered the costs in most zones and left it at that.

Jen

Ah ok, I only based it on what I read in the help notes here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2464

So for US sellers, how do get to establish what a zone is? As far as I can tell
for us here, we can't even go by Provinces nor Postal Codes, so there are
no ways for us to create zones within Canada.

I believe those 'zones' are just ways for the seller to organize international
shipping. My understanding is that there are no zip code based anything in IC.

Jen

Ok good to know. I'm not sure how granular it is for you guys with USPS but
for us in Canada, we go from basic Lettermail (2cm thickness maximum, low weight
max) which is standard country-wide, and then jump to basically only a single
kind of parcel service (if you exclude Xpresspost) which varies SO widely in
prices across the country. A parcel that ships within my city for $11.27CAD (and
also ships to Toronto and Montreal for the same price) costs $14.80 in a town
15 minutes away from my house. It's actually cheaper for me to send that
same tracked parcel to the US.

It's so difficult for us to create generic shipping parcel prices because
the gap between the prices in different parts of Canada is so great. The urban
cities in ON/QC ship for $11.27CAD for me (or even cheaper in QC due to taxes),
but can reach just over $20 for the same parcel in the more remote areas on the
opposite side of the country. If we could at least create manual zones, even
based on province of the buyer, we would at least be able to create a better
"average" price for all buyers.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Mar 23, 2020 15:33
 Subject: Re: Updates to Instant Checkout (Canada)
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jennnifer (2326)

Location:  USA, Illinois
Member Since Contact Type Status
Sep 8, 2009 Contact Member Seller
Buying Privileges - OKSelling Privileges - OK
Store: Old Grey Bricks
In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
  In Suggestions, Emporiosa writes:
  
  
IC did not use the USPS API last time I checked. I think most sellers just decided
on one rate that covered the costs in most zones and left it at that.

Jen

Ah ok, I only based it on what I read in the help notes here: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2464

So for US sellers, how do get to establish what a zone is? As far as I can tell
for us here, we can't even go by Provinces nor Postal Codes, so there are
no ways for us to create zones within Canada.

I believe those 'zones' are just ways for the seller to organize international
shipping. My understanding is that there are no zip code based anything in IC.

Jen

Ok good to know. I'm not sure how granular it is for you guys with USPS but
for us in Canada, we go from basic Lettermail (2cm thickness maximum, low weight
max) which is standard country-wide, and then jump to basically only a single
kind of parcel service (if you exclude Xpresspost) which varies SO widely in
prices across the country. A parcel that ships within my city for $11.27CAD (and
also ships to Toronto and Montreal for the same price) costs $14.80 in a town
15 minutes away from my house. It's actually cheaper for me to send that
same tracked parcel to the US.

It's so difficult for us to create generic shipping parcel prices because
the gap between the prices in different parts of Canada is so great. The urban
cities in ON/QC ship for $11.27CAD for me (or even cheaper in QC due to taxes),
but can reach just over $20 for the same parcel in the more remote areas on the
opposite side of the country. If we could at least create manual zones, even
based on province of the buyer, we would at least be able to create a better
"average" price for all buyers.

The differences in our zones is much smaller. For me in Chicago, the smallest
package ranges from $2.74 to $3.18. A 16oz package is $5.04 to $5.70. Over that
weight, we have to use Priority where the differences get much more noticeable.
But 90% of my orders are below 16oz so it is not too much hassle.

Good luck!
Jen